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mamacantik

Sorry if I've missed this - but how warm are you making the bath? We find it needs to be quite lukewarm. I also add some Dermaveen bath oil and follow the bath immediately with a lukewarm shower using goatsmilk soap.

 

I was appalled when our dermatologist first suggested it too and still hate doing it, but it works. It really does.

 

We're going down a new path through a naturopath having just had IgG blood tests to seek food sensitivities. Have 3 kids with terrible eczema. It sucks.

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ytt

OK UPDATE time.

 

DS eczema is soooo much worse and has covered his back - his eyes are better though :)

 

Kids are calling him red skin at school (he has to change into sports uniform) :cry: and white skin :cry: because he is so pale. That gives you a big mental image of my DS.

 

Guy came out to service bio septic system and said NO WAY to bleach, our second chamber needs 'help' (some blood and bone). Not sure if it is because of the baths DS has already done.

 

His eczema has got so much worse since the bleach, not sure if it has anything to do with that.

 

I've managed to get an appointment for Friday (pupil free day for DS and stop work meeting for me) so I'm going to get some prescription steriods. I'm going through so many tubes of dermaide it's not funny.

 

DS is also very very tired, he is falling asleep on the bus, going to bed 'early' for him and even fell asleep at his desk after NAPLAN (he finished early).

 

Not sure if the 'tiredness' is due to his mental health issues or allergies.

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Sunny003

DS2 has bleach baths twice a week. 1/4cup in 1/2 adult size bath of lukewarm water. Soak for 2mins (we add dermaveen too) and then shower off the bleach. Don't leave it on the skin.

 

DS has bleach baths twice daily while in hospital. I too was :0 at first, but it saves so much ABs.

 

Also, if your DS is allergic to dairy, Moogoo isn't a good choice.

Winter is hard as the cool winds plus heating dries the skin more. Try Dermeze 2-4 times a day. Wet dressings saved our lives too. Look up wet dressings on the RCH website.

 

Sounds as though you could do with a stronger cortisone as well.

 

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willseczema

Hi, I am new to this forum but had to join in this topic! I was advised by an allergist last year to give my then 5 yr old bleach baths which i just could not get my head around....so didn't do it. I have been seeing another allergist for the past few months, elimination diets, patch testing, scratch testing, you name it we've done, but still the eczema persists....the Dr even calls Will the problem child lol! but not really funny at all. So now, we are heading towards UV treatment, which I don't know much about yet, but living in the country makes anything like this a challenge.

So, I have a couple of things to add to this conversation.

Firstly, my son just had his first bleach bath! AAArh!! And guess what....no itching at all so far. Normally after a bath he is scratching within minutes, and yes it is almost cold but still it makes him itchy. So, so far so good! I decided to do it as I felt it was a better alternative to Anti Biotics, which I just cannot bring myself to give him. He was tested for Staph, and definitely has it, so at least I know the bleach should help. Then after the bath I slather him in organic coconut oil, the type you cook with with. It is also an anti bacterial and keeps him soft and supple witout any of the nasties.

Secondly Biotin, I am waiting on receiving some bottles in the mail, but there seems to be a strong connection for some people with a deficiency of the this vitamin. It's the hair skin and nails vitamin. My son craves peanut butter and as it turns out it has Biotin in it which I found interesting. Also, I, myself have always had very thin hair and suffered eczema at times, so it got my thinking if I was deficient when i was pregnant, then perhaps my son has never had enough Biotin in his system??? Anyway, something to look into for eczema sufferers, I will come back and let you know it it works.

Also, I just read about Apple Cider Vinegar being a substitute for bleach?? Perhaps i-candi your son may benefit from that instead? Also kinder to the septic tanks...which I have as well, so the bleach is a concern for me too.

Anyway, good luck everyone, eczema is a nightmare, but never stop looking for answers, I get the feeling the cause is different for everyone.

Cheers Susie

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sunflowers81

Just thought I'd add my experience too...

 

My 2 year old has suffered from eczema since he was a couple of months old and we have been to a couple of different GPs, a Pediatrician, A dermatologist and an eczema specialist and were also told to give him bleach baths... which I just couldn't bring myself to do...

 

I decided to see a nutritionist and we have the first signs of recovery after all the above specialists put together... she put him on a course of probiotics, has looked closely at his diet and he's taking cod liver oil too (thankfully he just takes it with NO arguments!) - his skin is very slowly improving.

 

Also, I have been doing my research into diet and the skin (I'm studying to be a nutritionist myself, so have been using every resource I can get my hands on!) and in a couple of weeks we are starting a diet called The GAPS Diet which is a really restrictive eating protocol to heal the gut (the source of eczema according to an overwhelming number of studies). Will let you know how we go!

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somila

Sea Salt baths have been effective for controlling infected eczema for my son. Mum suggested it first, but paed allergist also said it was a good idea.

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ytt

This is an older thread.

 

DS has cleared up his eczema apart from a few flare ups in his elbows and knees.

 

We've started immunotherapy for his allergies which seems to have helped, he hasn't needed antihistamines daily (though he needs them some days) since he started immunotherapy.

 

Oh and he has now left that school as of last Friday. Next year he will start at a new school and hopefully he won't be teased as much :(

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Therese

I'm glad there have been some improvements i-candi and I really hope that next year is the start of something great for your son at his new school.

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I am a shape

Can you try swimming in the ocean? If you live close to the beach. I had bad eczema as a child and my dad would take me to the beach to swim at night. It was very soothing and would always promoted healing. If your not near the beach you could try salt baths. Salt must be a better choice than bleach.

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mitty82

there is a certain formula which must be used on how much bleach to use, it is just like a chlorine pool.

It is used to kill bugs in the skin, which i have done and have found it great as it also closes over a sore really well. My daughter got a bug in her excema and it went all over her body. was horrific to see.

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Pop-to-the-shops

Re salt my dd screams in agony at the beach, but doesn't have a problem with bleach baths and swimming pools....

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knottygirl

come to think of it, my boys excema has really cleared up since they have been swimming daily. Maybe this is why.

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somila
Re salt my dd screams in agony at the beach, but doesn't have a problem with bleach baths and swimming pools....

It's the sand at the beach that's the problem for my DH. Three consecutive days of school swimming have caused a flare-up, but I suspect it's the drying effect of being in and out of water. Good old eczema - it's your friend for life! :)

 

I knew it was an old thread i-candi, but responded anyway. Good luck with the new school - I hope he "finds his tribe" there.

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Hypnic Jerk

THIS IS NOT A ZOMBIE THREAD

I've had DD on a bleach bath since Monday.  I'll check her this morning but I'm thinking we will probably stop.  We have a telehealth appointment with my GP but I'm at a bit of a loss.  Does anyone know how long it's supposed to take to start making a difference.

I had her on a nizoral wash (ordered by a different GP).  It helped for a few days then turned her skin red raw before we got to the end of the course when I stopped it and took her to my own GP.

She's having cortisone in emolient twice a day.  Today is day 4 I think.

Won't go outside in case heyfever hits.  It hasn't so far.

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Riotproof

@Hypnic Jerk I haven’t ever used bleach baths on my kids, but absolutely I would stop in your case. I would be worried that there is some kind of allergy or infection making it worse and go to your gp. 

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GingerbreadWoman

Have you done a bleach bath every day? My understanding was to do them only once or twice a week, to reduce the bacteria on the skin, but not irritate too much. I would definitely stop. 

Obviously take your GPs advice, but the best thing for my DDs eczema has been the QV flare up oil (note though that it does make the bath really slippery) and just lots of plain sorbolene as a moisturiser. 

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solongandthanksfor

surely you mean to say chlorhexidine or bath oils... not bleach...?????

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22Fruitmincepies
1 minute ago, jayskette said:

surely you mean to say chlorhexidine or bath oils... not bleach...?????

Bleach baths are a thing for eczema. 

OP, not all GPs are equal when it comes to eczema! We saw a new GP for DD about something else, she in passing suggested changing part of DD’s treatment and it’s been very helpful. I have to go back to get a thorough review of DD’s skin issues. 

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ainira
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14 minutes ago, jayskette said:

surely you mean to say chlorhexidine or bath oils... not bleach...?????

It's recommended by the Royal Children's Hospital:

https://www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/fact_sheets/Skin_infections_bleach_baths/

But it's not meant to be just bleach and water -- it's meant to also have salt and bath oil. Both my DDs have been treated by a dermatologist and her treatment regimes (bleach baths, prescribed ointments, creams) have worked straight away. 

Edited to say, have you had a referral to a dermatologist?

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José

I find a bleach bath helps DS right away. We don't do it often. And as per above even if it were done regularly it wouldn't be daily. 

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~Jolly_F~

Are you doing it daily?

We have done it and helps straight away but it was like once a week or fortnight, not daily. 

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Hypnic Jerk
8 minutes ago, ainira said:

It's recommended by the Royal Children's Hospital:

https://www.rch.org.au/kidsinfo/fact_sheets/Skin_infections_bleach_baths/

But it's not meant to be just bleach and water -- it's meant to also have salt and bath oil. Both my DDs have been treated by a dermatologist and her treatment regimes (bleach baths, prescribed ointments, creams) have worked straight away. 

Edited to say, have you had a referral to a dermatologist?

No.  I went in to ask for one at the Nizoral debacle, this is when we switched from any random GP  GP available at short notice at the clinic to my GP who is the clinic owner.  She got us onto the RCH guidelines though not at the point of BB.  At this latest flare-up I started the baths to get it going before Monday's appointment.

I'm wondering about allergy testing - we rehomed our guinea pigs this week as they seemed to set her off.

The instuctions for the bath said to add pool salt, which I coulsn't get where we are.  Have been adding QV bath oil.

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Hands Up

I imagine if skin was really sensitive it would be problematic but I’d say more likely it’s the fact you are doing it daily.

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