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Minnie80

Hi everyone, 

Sorry for the disgusting post. But I noticed for the past week or so that my son has skid marks on his underwear every day. We are Middle Eastern, so after pooping we usually wipe first, then use a bidet and wash very well. But just in case, I doubled down on the cleaning even more and I still find the skid marks. He's not constipated or anything like that. Did anyone have this problem? I'm kind of worried, because I know we are cleaning very well. He's been toilet trained now for over almost 1.5 years. I can't even remember the last time we had an accident, especially poop. 

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CallMeFeral

So he's fully washed after poos but there are still skid marks? That's really weird. And I presume no diarrhoea that could result in wet farts?

Could he be scratching there? I'm wondering if there's maybe worms or skin irritation leading to him scratching in there through his undies and leading to skid marks? 

Tangent I'm relieved to learn other people clean that way. That's what my family always did and I felt like we were weird somehow. I didn't realise Middle Eastern cultures also did it. 

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Minnie80
2 hours ago, CallMeFeral said:

So he's fully washed after poos but there are still skid marks? That's really weird. And I presume no diarrhoea that could result in wet farts?

Could he be scratching there? I'm wondering if there's maybe worms or skin irritation leading to him scratching in there through his undies and leading to skid marks? 

Tangent I'm relieved to learn other people clean that way. That's what my family always did and I felt like we were weird somehow. I didn't realise Middle Eastern cultures also did it. 

Yes, we use water. It used to be bidets. But now that's old fashioned. Now, there is knob on the side of the toilets, you turn it on and it sprays water onto butt and genitals. We use that for both poop and pee. I just said bidet so people can understand :)

Anyway, yes my son is cleaned very well, although occasionally skid marks would still happen. But now it's every single day, even after we increased the cleaning. He has a vaccination this week, so I may ask the doctor. It's kind of worrying me. 

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ekbaby

When some kids get constipated they get little bits of “leaking” around the hard ball of poo stuck inside them. And because of the pressure of the hard poo inside them they cannot feel the little leak. 
But you said not constipated ? When he does do poo what is the texture/size like (lol yes parent talk is awesome). If he is going but just little ones and quite hard there could still be more inside ? 

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SplashingRainbows

I think you should re think your assumption that he isn’t constipated. Evidence suggests he is. 

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Minnie80
4 hours ago, ekbaby said:

When some kids get constipated they get little bits of “leaking” around the hard ball of poo stuck inside them. And because of the pressure of the hard poo inside them they cannot feel the little leak. 
But you said not constipated ? When he does do poo what is the texture/size like (lol yes parent talk is awesome). If he is going but just little ones and quite hard there could still be more inside ? 

He goes daily or every other day. Poop seems normal. There is no straining or anything like that. Poop seems normal. But I will check again next time. I don't think he is constipated at all. 

I asked him if his bum is itchy or hurts and he didn't respond. 

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Murderino
11 hours ago, SplashingRainbows said:

I think you should re think your assumption that he isn’t constipated. Evidence suggests he is. 

I agree. My youngest had never had any of the signs I would have thought would indicate constipation but after 2.5 years of dealing with encopresis I know it's not so obvious.

He had an xray once where there was poo backed up right through his colon - it looked like his entire stomach was full of poo.  Yet he never strained to poo and went to the toilet daily.

 

 

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Minnie80

That's interesting. I didn't know that. I will check with the doctor for sure

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Green Sage

Worm him. It’s such a quick and easy thing to rule out. they even have chocolate flavoured tablets. 

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Hands Up

Yes we’ve dealt with h constipation with both kids.

The other thing we’ve found is skid marks when they haven’t wanted to stop what they are doing. So they are holding in.

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Ellie bean
5 minutes ago, Hands Up said:

Yes we’ve dealt with h constipation with both kids.

The other thing we’ve found is skid marks when they haven’t wanted to stop what they are doing. So they are holding in.

Yeah it could be either of these. My daughter had skid marks when constipated, my son had them when he was holding on because he didn’t want to go to the toilet at school.

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Minnie80

My son actually told me that he needs to poop today and then he strained and strained and couldn't. It's unusual. He usually has no trouble pooping. I'm hoping to take him to the doctor tomorrow to be vaccinated, so I will mention this. 

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Minnie80

So, we went to the doctor. He said that it could be due to constipation. I told him my son is not really constipated. He said that his stomach seems fine and to watch and see. We had a couple of days where we were fine. I had bought him some new underwear that I thought maybe was riding up his bum. So, we reverted back to the old ones. I just wanted to see if that was the problem. There was nothing for a couple of days.But, yesterday, he had a poop at around 5 pm and we washed very well.  His pants were clean when we checked at night. Then this morning, it was totally smeared in poop. Not just a small stain like before, but totally smeared. I was really shocked and I'm not sure what to do. 

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CallMeFeral

I think I'd go back to your doctor. I have no idea what would account for that if there is no constipation, but perhaps he can refer you to a specialist who could investigate. 

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Ellie bean

We are all telling you this could be constipation. The doctor says it sounds like constipation. I think you should go back to the doctor and see what he recommends for constipation.

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Mrs Claus

Sounds like my DD. I didn’t think she was constipated but turns out she was. I think you should consider that it probably is

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No girls here

That has been my experience with constipation also. DS3 has had ongoing issues with constipation for a few years and he never ever needs to strain or finds it difficult to go. He goes straight from feeling OK to being completely blocked up and leaking poo. With him the doctor was able to feel that he was blocked up which was also confirmed with an xray.

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Minnie80
Just now, No girls here said:

That has been my experience with constipation also. DS3 has had ongoing issues with constipation for a few years and he never ever needs to strain or finds it difficult to go. He goes straight from feeling OK to being completely blocked up and leaking poo. With him the doctor was able to feel that he was blocked up which was also confirmed with an xray.

 

4 minutes ago, Mrs Claus said:

Sounds like my DD. I didn’t think she was constipated but turns out she was. I think you should consider that it probably is

Hi, so how did you find out that she was? I just want some advice on what to do please. 

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Minnie80
50 minutes ago, CallMeFeral said:

I think I'd go back to your doctor. I have no idea what would account for that if there is no constipation, but perhaps he can refer you to a specialist who could investigate. 

I texted him and he said we can try a stool analysis to begin with. So, I'm trying to arrange that now. 

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Paddlepop
6 minutes ago, Minnie80 said:

 

Hi, so how did you find out that she was? I just want some advice on what to do please. 

X-ray. An x-ray will show if your DS is full of poo and constipated. 

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Mrs Claus
4 minutes ago, Minnie80 said:

I texted him and he said we can try a stool analysis to begin with. So, I'm trying to arrange that now. 

Sounds like a good start. Also an X-ray would be helpful

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Jenflea

A stool sample won't show much if he's constipated, an X ray will!

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Murderino

My child’s continence nurse could always feel his backed up poo by palpating his abdomen and then as I said earlier an X-ray showed he was full of poo. He NEVER strained.

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Murderino
Posted (edited)

I will delete this pic but I found the X-ray - all that darker grey from the ribs to the pelvis is poo backed up through his colon etc.

 

 

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Minnie80
17 minutes ago, Mrs Claus said:

Sounds like a good start. Also an X-ray would be helpful

I'm not sure what the analysis is for to be quite honest. But it's a national holiday here,  so I didn't want to bother him with questions. I was just happy he responded. 

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