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I've been driven absolutely mad for the last 18 months by an undiagnosable persistent dry cough. I've been scanned, scoped, blooded and every other test you can think of. We've excluded all the obvious and less obvious suspects including various types of reflux, allergy, asthma, nodules, lumps and autoimmune things.  I've never smoked. Thyroid levels and size apparently normal.  I've started angrily reading obscure medical journal articles... It just happens all the time, slightly more likely when I talk or laugh. 

I caught up with an old friend yesterday who said 'Oh that's a perimenopause symptom, in Chinese medicine'. We're the right age. She reckons acupuncture helped her. 

Does anyone have a similar experience? Any hope or suggestions to offer? It's really affecting me badly. 

Thank you for any ideas!

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born.a.girl
9 minutes ago, Lalala4 said:

I've been driven absolutely mad for the last 18 months by an undiagnosable persistent dry cough. I've been scanned, scoped, blooded and every other test you can think of. We've excluded all the obvious and less obvious suspects including various types of reflux, allergy, asthma, nodules, lumps and autoimmune things.  I've never smoked. Thyroid levels and size apparently normal.  I've started angrily reading obscure medical journal articles... It just happens all the time, slightly more likely when I talk or laugh. 

I caught up with an old friend yesterday who said 'Oh that's a perimenopause symptom, in Chinese medicine'. We're the right age. She reckons acupuncture helped her. 

Does anyone have a similar experience? Any hope or suggestions to offer? It's really affecting me badly. 

Thank you for any ideas!

Yes, could have written that word for word - although I was also diagnosed with moderate, 'reactive?' asthma.  (I don't know what its proper name is - someone who only gets asthma after a cold etc, but had the full testing and moderate was the result.)

Never heard it referred to as a peri menopause symptom though, and fits mine exactly.   ENT bloke said that eating wet foods, like lettuce, can aggravate it. Sure enough I was having a big salad sandwich each day for lunch, skipping the lettuce helped reduce it.  I did also go on to Thyroxine, at that time, which may have been a co-incidence, but it also reduced then. The other thing that aggravated it was preservatives in alcohol and I was trying to move to low alcohol wine - can drink it once a fortnight, but three times a week and I'm back coughing again.

It sounds like none of my suggestions are much help for you, but I do sympathise - mine went on for a few years and drove me crazy.  Still have a bit of a tendency for it.

Have you tried a diary of what you're eating, and the days/times it's bad?  It didn't stop mine, but excluding juice, lettuce etc stopped it getting worse that day.  I know you say allergies have been ruled out, but the ent bloke said that it can be microscopic droplets from these foods that can aggravate it.

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meljbau

Are you taking any blood pressure medications? Some of them are notorious for causing a dry cough in some people

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Lalala4

Thank you both. No, no medications apart from iron and vitamin D supplements, but the cough predates those. That's interesting about the alcohol -- I had wondered if that made it worse, but I don't drink often. I'm having a dry spell at the moment as part of getting healthier overall so will watch out for this. 

'Wet foods' -- what else besides lettuce might qualify? 

 

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Lalala4

BornAGirl I'm going to be re-tested for asthma -- did you find treating that made a difference? 

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born.a.girl
13 minutes ago, Lalala4 said:

Thank you both. No, no medications apart from iron and vitamin D supplements, but the cough predates those. That's interesting about the alcohol -- I had wondered if that made it worse, but I don't drink often. I'm having a dry spell at the moment as part of getting healthier overall so will watch out for this. 

'Wet foods' -- what else besides lettuce might qualify? 

 

Fruit juice aggravated it.   Not tea so much.   Maybe it was the 'bits' in the orange juice?

The interesting thing about the low alcohol sparkling, was that it wasn't when I drank it, and it was only when I wasn't drinking for a month that I realised the cough had improved (not disappeared, I still have a tendency for it, but 1/50th of what it was).  I thought it was just alcohol in general, but it was specifically the low alcohol.   I can have a bit occasionally, but sharing a bottle three times a week, I couldn't.   I have to have stopped drinking it for about a week for the issue to resolve.

I didn't have asthma at the time of the tests with the specialist - they were ones where you inhale an aggravating substance and they test with a peak flow meter, then keep doing that until you reach a certain point, then given you ventolin. I was then told mine was moderate, and given steroids to make sure the asthma wasn't an aggravating factor.  It wasn't, it didn't help.

I must admit dairy makes me cough a bit, but it passes after a while, whereas this irritating little cough went on all day.

I've also been on HRT for about ten years now, but I can't remember the time frame - I believe it mostly resolved before that, after a couple of years of it.

 

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Thank you for that info. I’m tracking my calories so I might add a note about the cough each day too, based on what you’ve said. I’ve never found a pattern before but I wasn’t looking at the level of individual foods like lettuce...

 

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