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WaitForMe
2 hours ago, purplekitty said:

My Bold.

My goodness,I hope that is a thing of the past but some of these sort of attitudes still exist.

They have no place in healthcare.

Wholly crap, I'm glad you pointed this out I missed it on first read...

I need like a list of things to ask an aged care facility before my parents end up in one. My grandmother was at a great one (in SA). My mum was given the name of an aged care agent (or something? can't remember exact title), that finds out all your requirements and then they go off and find a place. She was amazing but I think they got lucky knowing she existed. They most definitely did not withhold opiates at end of life thank god!

 

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JRA
1 minute ago, WaitForMe said:

Wholly crap, I'm glad you pointed this out I missed it on first read...

I need like a list of things to ask an aged care facility before my parents end up in one. My grandmother was at a great one (in SA). My mum was given the name of an aged care agent (or something? can't remember exact title), that finds out all your requirements and then they go off and find a place. She was amazing but I think they got lucky knowing she existed. They most definitely did not withhold opiates at end of life thank god!

 

It is so tough isn't it. 

 

Similar reason why I would not give birth in a catholic hospital. I did not want their religion tied to my health decisions

 

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purplekitty
3 minutes ago, WaitForMe said:

Wholly crap, I'm glad you pointed this out I missed it on first read...

I need like a list of things to ask an aged care facility before my parents end up in one. My grandmother was at a great one (in SA). My mum was given the name of an aged care agent (or something? can't remember exact title), that finds out all your requirements and then they go off and find a place. She was amazing but I think they got lucky knowing she existed. They most definitely did not withhold opiates at end of life thank god!

 

There were/are some incredibly uneducated opinions out here about using opiates for adequate pain control, even in healthcare settings.

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Fifteenyears

Randomly, you can ‘mask’ a brass instrument with fabric over the bell.  Doesn’t work for woodwind because they have other holes.    Especially flute which you blow across rather than into.

There have been studies done, and instruments seem to be nowhere near as dangerous as singing.  In fact they seek to ‘collect’ particles rather than further aerosolise them (which makes sense, given the large quantity of spit that comes out of brass instruments.

Anyway, my kid has been kicked out of her gym again, because it’s at a private school and they don’t want plague rats from their local community putting their girls in danger.  And with her Canberra camp cancelled, drama club off, and year six graduation in doubt, and Cuboree cancelled earlier this year because of bushfires, being back at her gym was pretty much the last good thing 2020 had going for it.    So I am officially in teary-mum mode now.

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Jersey Caramel

Given the list of reported coronavirus symptoms is so long,  and varied, I think it wouldn't be unreasonable for schools to require a negative covid test or a medical certificate prior to return to school after any sickness.  Headache,  diarrhoea,  loss of appetite,  runny nose,  rash, fatigue, muscle aches, conjunctivitis... I am struggling to think of many illnesses that wouldn't have at least one symptom that couldn't also potentially be covid19. Especially since they want people to be tested for even the mildest symptom. 

This is one tightening of rules that I am glad about,  because we have just had our second round of swab tests/week off work and school/feeling horrible due to a cold sweeping through the family that my youngest brought home from school.  I know that cold viruses can be spread before symptoms appear,  but I also know plenty of people avoiding getting kids tested because they won't like the swab. 

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Fifteenyears

Yep, I am good with that rule too.  And, TBH, would like it to apply to teachers as well.   My daughter’s teacher just had three days off with a cold.   She probably did go and get tested, but I will never know.    And it would be reassuring to know that getting tested was standard operating procedure for teachers too.

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Ernegirl

DC's NSW public school announced last week that kids needed a negative covid test before resuming school after sick leave. But today's announcement really underlines it.

In principle I agree with it, however my child was too distressed to have the nose swab six weeks ago and now I'm thinking what the blink will I do if we have to get tested again. We're not in Melbourne, so no saliva test option for us I believe.

Last time the doctor wrote us a certificate authorizing a week's absence from school. Since I was tested at the time I figured that was an acceptable alternative.

This policy  will probably apply until we end community transmission or have a vaccine...

 

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Riotproof

I had a throat and nasal swab in Sydney recently. 
It may be worth asking around just for peace of mind. 

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Riotproof

Who watched Four Corners? I feel like Reina Mcintyre is getting better at making herself clearly understood. 

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Kreme

I took my DD14 for a Covid test today. I had prepared her for the quite invasive nasal swab that I had a couple of months ago, but it was very different. They swabbed her throat and nose but not nearly as deeply as mine was. And (negative) results were back in 7 hours so that was great. We are in Sydney. 
 

We haven’t been advised that a negative test is required by the school,  however they are dealing with contact tracing so perhaps it will come tomorrow. A friend also told me that the new policy is that siblings need to stay at home of a child is having a Covid test - has anyone heard about that?

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RichardParker

It’s probably a sensible requirement, but for FYOS or SN kids, the nasal swab test would be pretty distressing.  DS and I both recently had a bug with COVID symptoms.  I got a test for myself, (negative ) but chose not to put him through it because I figured he had whatever I had.  We’re in a very low risk area.

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PuddingPlease
28 minutes ago, Riotproof said:

Who watched Four Corners? I feel like Reina Mcintyre is getting better at making herself clearly understood. 

I just finished watching it, what tragedy, I felt terrible for the families interviewed.

Most of what was reported is already pretty well understood but the baby shower at Epping Gardens was a bit of a nasty surprise.

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Fifteenyears

My kid was tested at a drive through clinic a few weeks ago and only had the throat swab.  My husband was with her and got nose and throat.

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ljbellus
40 minutes ago, Riotproof said:

Who watched Four Corners? I feel like Reina Mcintyre is getting better at making herself clearly understood. 

I thought the same.  The whole show was very informative tonight and Q&A was excellent.

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Meepy

I got really annoyed at qanda because I don’t think enough of the questions actually got answered - they segued into interesting areas but didn’t answer the question at times.

Beetrooter always raises my ire - if he thinks reports/emails are going to be released, he won’t write them.  What kind of accountability is that?  He got paid $650k for drought envoy and he texted reports - I’ll do it for $600k if that is included in the terms of reference.

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got my tinsel on
44 minutes ago, Meepy said:

I got really annoyed at qanda because I don’t think enough of the questions actually got answered - they segued into interesting areas but didn’t answer the question at times.

Beetrooter always raises my ire - if he thinks reports/emails are going to be released, he won’t write them.  What kind of accountability is that?  He got paid $650k for drought envoy and he texted reports - I’ll do it for $600k if that is included in the terms of reference.

Interesting that federal parliament can't sit remotely because 'security' but Barnaby can send government reports by text.

Also his b**ching about private citizens deserving privacy and it wasn't fair to take a photo of a pregnant woman on the street  and publish it, but conveniently forgetting that he sold his new family story for big $ to the media.

He's an idiot.

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VigilantePaladin

The difference being that he and his family CHOSE to do that interview. She didn't choose to have her photo taken and put in some magazine.

He's right. He's the public figure. Go after him. Leave the families out of it.

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Riotproof
8 hours ago, Meepy said:

I got really annoyed at qanda because I don’t think enough of the questions actually got answered - they segued into interesting areas but didn’t answer the question at times.

Beetrooter always raises my ire - if he thinks reports/emails are going to be released, he won’t write them.  What kind of accountability is that?  He got paid $650k for drought envoy and he texted reports - I’ll do it for $600k if that is included in the terms of reference.

I really have to mentally prepare for q and a. Even though I think Hamish does a good job, it’s all just a bit .. 

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Riotproof
8 hours ago, Fifteenyears said:

My kid was tested at a drive through clinic a few weeks ago and only had the throat swab.  My husband was with her and got nose and throat.

That is good to know. 

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lozoodle
13 hours ago, Fifteenyears said:

Anyway, my kid has been kicked out of her gym again, because it’s at a private school and they don’t want plague rats from their local community putting their girls in danger.  And with her Canberra camp cancelled, drama club off, and year six graduation in doubt, and Cuboree cancelled earlier this year because of bushfires, being back at her gym was pretty much the last good thing 2020 had going for it.    So I am officially in teary-mum mode now.

Awful. Two of my kids are gymnasts so I understand how much this would sting. Time for a new club?!

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born.a.girl
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15 hours ago, WaitForMe said:

Wholly crap, I'm glad you pointed this out I missed it on first read...

I need like a list of things to ask an aged care facility before my parents end up in one. My grandmother was at a great one (in SA). My mum was given the name of an aged care agent (or something? can't remember exact title), that finds out all your requirements and then they go off and find a place. She was amazing but I think they got lucky knowing she existed. They most definitely did not withhold opiates at end of life thank god!

 

Have a read of a book called 'Aged Care. Who Cares?'.   It covers the financial side mostly (a steep learning curve in itself) but also covers the requirements for aged care homes regarding finances.   One of the ones I visited with my SIL, we were asked about my MIL's finances and we looked at each other thinking 'we're not telling you that', but it's actually a valid question from them. If you understand how the system operates before you start looking, you'll spend your time more efficiently.  Have a read of the Centrelink assessment form which determines the person's income tested fee.

THE best thing would be if the person themselves would visit with you and say whether they like the feel of the place or not.  I tried to encourage my MIL to do this - saying she should treat it like an insurance policy - hopefully never needed, but if so, we had a head start knowing the places she'd rejected.

So much comes down to how the person enters aged care - willingly, feeling like the time is right, or (the majority) after a fall or illness which leaves them unable to return home.

ETA: And yes there are places which will do it all for you, I think we were quoted something like $5k, but if the person has any assets at all, going to a financial advisor who specialises in Aged Care is really important, and that was something like $2k for us.

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Lou-bags

222 today Vic. I know it’s still a lot but for some reason this figure has me feeling more hopeful. 
 

(sadly another 17 deaths though 😥)

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Lunafreya

They’re treating Sydney like a hot spot because there was a case at the markets 

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dadwasathome
10 minutes ago, Lunafreya said:

They’re treating Sydney like a hot spot because there was a case at the markets 

Which markets? Paddy's? I can't find much info other than "the east end of City of Sydney", and then not why.

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