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gracie1978

Hey

Who set up the BSC, ASC at your kids school?

We had someone doing it, but they've left and we now have NOTHING. however only a small number of kids need it, say 5 -8 a day.

The Principal isn't able to assist.

 

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CrankyM

Local daycare center co-ordinates ours. They already have appropriate staff and processes to deal with the CL side of it.

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panda eyes

It wouldn't be feasible to run a service for so few children, there's a lot of regulation of the industry. However a service at a nearby school may possibly take them if they have a minibus. 

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gracie1978

That's what we were thinking, they need a minibus to get to another one 

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liveworkplay

Is there one in walking distance? Our local public and catholic primary school shared a service. The staff would walk kids from one school across to the other. (They were 2 blocks away)

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seayork2002

DS's was connected to a child care next to the school

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~Kay~

When our provider pulled out with limited notice the local council helped to coordinate a replacement that involved a bus to another service.

The council are usually aware of the services that operate in the area.

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3babygirls

Lots of our local schools with small numbers have mini buses that transport them to a larger school program. 
Maybe contact local programs already established?

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Prancer is coming

We have a community run child care centre right next to the school, and they run after school care too.  The whole idea of it was to assist with transition to school, with the childcare sometimes attending school events and some educators taking kids to ore kinder sessions thst child not attend otherwise.  Though lots of people at the centre don’t go to our public primary school.  Kids from the nearby Christian schools bus to And from our after school service as their school does not have one.  Our community run provider runs all services in both private and public schools (there is one christian School with it’s own provider) in our neighbouring suburbs.

 

Some of the other after school care groups are run by services like Catholic care and maybePhoenix (or some sort of chain.  

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kimasa

We have two options. A local day care centre walking distance and there's this place that just does oshc who collect from different schools on a minibus.

DD goes to the one walking distance because it's a better location for us.

But normally school council co-ordinate something like that, which the principal is on...

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melanieb530

Would be a great business opportunity for someone living close to the school to set up a Family Day Care specialising in before and after school care. Perhaps post the suggestion on local groups and the school newsletter to see if anyone is interested in doing this. 

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Bethlehem Babe

Pcyc run ours at their centre. They collect kids from the school near the centre, and the others catch a bus to the centre. 

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SeaPrincess

We have onsite OSHC run completely independently from the school, but some children are collected by a daycare centre bus. When DS1 was younger, my children attended a daycare centre that provided before and after care and drove the kids to and from their schools. His school at the time was technically out of their drop-off zone, but he was the only one needing it on the day he went, so they just did the morning for him.

OP, are you trying to sort out your own child or all of them? 

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Lou-bags

We have one onsite at school (for now, not sure they are getting enough kids for it to be viable longer term). It was organized by the school board. Ours is YMCA run. 
 

Before that, the kids who use it were picked up by local childcares. 

 

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IamtheMumma

In the local school area, we have Helping Hands, PCYC and Goodstart all offering services. Helping Hands is the only onsite one. The other two do a bus pickup. 

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Charli73
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I would say your principal can do something but couldn’t be bothered..

Our school never had one as they didn’t have the numbers (180 kids) and principal said it cost the school  too much.. anyway they used the OSH program at the local public school and the kids would walk down with a teacher and it worked well for years.. some days though in hail storms and extreme weather the teachers would drive them down (maybe 3/4 kids) and parents were always asked first.. not ideal but each parent had a choice.

anyway fast forward new principal and it was their first step to get an OSH provider on site. 
apparently it cost the school nothing it was all costed at the care provider and even though it was a huge pain to find a suitable area they could run it (with toilet etc, food prep area etc) the principal called a couple of providers and asked them to come pitch and they picked one. Some days they have no one (clearly with Covid) other days 10 kids so I wouldn’t listen to your principal it seems to hard for them to do, that’s a crock IMO.. 

Maybe ask the Principal to get the school council to survey parents and see what numbers they would get? That’s how we started... I was involved in getting the program up at our school so I’m glad it’s up and running now even though we were told for years it couldn’t be done. Providers are fighting to get new schools on board even if numbers aren’t huge. 
For us the school thought it might become more appealing if it had an on-site provider as numbers were declining so maybe that could be an angle you could take? 
happy for you to pm me of you have any questions.

 

good luck. 

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iwanttosleepin

our school has none either.  There are no schools within 25 km.  Its a very sore point with many families because part of the problem is a very old fashioned principal who has a school that works really well for stay at home mothers (and in our location families who don't work at all).  Many of our school choices exclude involvement by working parents. Ie. parent/teacher meetings mid-morning, compulsory taking of kids to classrooms (COVID sorted that one out).

Many young children simply roam the streets before and after school.

Our P&C is trying to get the school to agree to using some school space and then tendering the provision of the service.  

We have a local daycare that takes some kids (very close to the school) but they give spots to pre-school aged children first and then only allocate what's left.  at the moment that's about 4 spaces.

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gracie1978
17 hours ago, iwanttosleepin said:

our school has none either.  There are no schools within 25 km.  Its a very sore point with many families because part of the problem is a very old fashioned principal who has a school that works really well for stay at home mothers (and in our location families who don't work at all).  Many of our school choices exclude involvement by working parents. Ie. parent/teacher meetings mid-morning, compulsory taking of kids to classrooms (COVID sorted that one out).

Many young children simply roam the streets before and after school.

Our P&C is trying to get the school to agree to using some school space and then tendering the provision of the service.  

We have a local daycare that takes some kids (very close to the school) but they give spots to pre-school aged children first and then only allocate what's left.  at the moment that's about 4 spaces.

What state are you in?

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SeaPrincess
On 02/08/2020 at 2:41 PM, iwanttosleepin said:

part of the problem is a very old fashioned principal who has a school that works really well for stay at home mothers (and in our location families who don't work at all).  Many of our school choices exclude involvement by working parents. Ie. parent/teacher meetings mid-morning, compulsory taking of kids to classrooms (COVID sorted that one out).

When my brother and sister were young (back in the days before mobile phones), their school was fundraising for a sick bay, and one of the parents made some snide comment about parents who work. The principal, who was a nun, shut that down very quickly. She said she could always get hold of the working parents because they were at work, and they would come very quickly, but she couldn't get the ones who weren't at home.

With regard to schools not catering for working parents, for some reason, there seems to be less requirement for teachers to work outside normal hours these days. When I was at school and when I was teaching, parent-teacher interviews were held in the evening. I don't know a single school that still does that - not ours and none of my friends' school, public or private. Both of our schools book pupil free days for them, and for the primary school, we're not supposed to bring the children.

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Meepy

Every school I have taught at and the schools my kids attend all have parent teacher from the afternoon to evening so they cater for all parents (except for those that work from 12- 8).  They are pupil free at high school but not primary except for the P-12.

 

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Heather11
52 minutes ago, Meepy said:

Every school I have taught at and the schools my kids attend all have parent teacher from the afternoon to evening so they cater for all parents (except for those that work from 12- 8).  They are pupil free at high school but not primary except for the P-12.

 

Same.  There has always been at least one late evening during parent/teacher interview week.

At the HS my children attend they have a half day with interviews going from 2pm till 9.30pm

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SeaPrincess
13 minutes ago, Heather11 said:

Same.  There has always been at least one late evening during parent/teacher interview week.

At the HS my children attend they have a half day with interviews going from 2pm till 9.30pm

Our HS does them from 12.30 to 6 on two days, but a week apart on the same weekday. Student body is approx 1800, all to be fit in during those 2 days. The teachers run out of time slots within minutes of the online bookings opening up. Primary is 9-4

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Dianalynch

In vic, our school council was heavily involved in the last tender for a new provider, try writing to the president of your school council, and as a pp suggested ask them as the first step to survey the parent community about needs 

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Sancti-claws

In both state schools that my girls have been at (one metro, one regional small town) the P&C ran the OHSC - Helping Hands was the winning bidder last year when that school opened it for tender as it really is a lot of work for a volunteer organisation (even with paid staff - the paper requirements for licensing is huge).

At the little school that my daughter goes to now there is no before or after school care option, although I am sure there are local childcare centres that could be accessed if required.

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