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22Fruitmincepies

DD (6yo) seems to be humming (her description, it’s just a one note hmmm) involuntarily. I’ve just noticed it, and it seems to be when she’s watching something a bit scary or makes her feel a bit uncomfortable (eg someone getting into trouble). It’s not bothering her, and she can suppress it by taking a big breath instead (I asked her to try to not make the sound, she found it difficult before she figured out the breath). Is this something I need to act on quickly, or just keep an eye on? Is it normal? 

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rosie28

Sounds like a little tic to me. Our DS has had the odd transient tic, they always go after a few weeks of us gently reminding him not to do it or completely ignoring it. 

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PocketIcikleflakes
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Is she autistic? DS does that. It's one of his stims to help him self regulate.

ETA. If she's autistic I'd leave it as it's part of her regulation and it's not harmful. If she's not I'd keep an eye on it but not necessarily do anything about it unless I thought it was part of a wider issue.

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22Fruitmincepies

No, totally NT. A little bit anxious. 

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Prancer is coming

My ADHD kid does similar, particularly when doing work which must drive his classmates nuts!  I don’t know if you can stop it?  At times if it drives me nuts I will ask him to stop, but I don’t think he realises he does it.

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Lucrezia Bauble
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my DS does this - i first noticed it when we were skiing together in January ...and he does it all the time when he’s playing minecraft or concentrating on something - i noticed it a lot during homeschooling too and told him to do it inside his head. he told me he “doesn’t know how to do that” - he’ll stop when i tell him, but often resumes. hope he doesn’t do it in class as it would drive his classmates mad. 

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SillyDuff

My youngest does this, mostly when eating, he is on the spectrum and also has ADHD. We used to ask him to stop, but it would start up again so we just let him go. I did notice the other day he was doing it while waiting for something- I cant remember what it was but I think it was helping his anxiety, so just left him to it.

 

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Kreme

Definitely sounds like a tic. They’re quite common in my family and associated with anxiety. DD used to clear her throat constantly for at least 6 months around age 8. She’d changed schools and was finding  it very stressful. Once she got used to school it disappeared and never came back even when she was anxious about starting high school. My niece has had several blinking and throat clearing tics during her life when she was worried or anxious. 

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ContentedFleur

I wouldn't worry about it. Even NT kids have their quirks! If it makes her feel better leave it. 
(this is from somebody who is married to a man who hums tunelessly at VERY HIGH VOLUME and doesn't realise it. I've grown accustomed to living with a giant bee, although I was highly amused during my first online meeting when my work colleagues were all wondering what the heck the noise was!)

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Gruffalo's Child

It sounds like anxiety to me, my DD does something similar.    Does she see a psych for her anxiety?  If so, I'd bring it up with them or mention it to your GP when you next have to take her.   I wouldn't worry about it at this stage, but would consider starting a diary to see how often it occurs or what the pattern of it is.   

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22Fruitmincepies

We are currently seeing a psych, specifically for a medical anxiety issue that’s preventing her accessing medical care. Psych doesn’t think she’s unusually anxious in other areas of life, but a few recent incidents have left me wondering otherwise. I’ll mention it when we are next in (you never know, she might be able to hum at the doctors to help her cope). 

But it does sound like it’s a fairly normal thing and I don’t need to panic. Thanks to all the PPs! 

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BusbyWilkes
On 15/07/2020 at 1:42 PM, 22Fruitmincepies said:

No, totally NT. A little bit anxious. 

IIRC (and it may be a different member), have you had other concerns re her development along the way? Not major ones, but a couple of other smaller things? 

Agree with others that the humming is most likely a tic. Common in kids with anxiety, ASD, sensory issues and to a lesser extent ADHD. Definitely worth discussing with your psych and keeping  in mind possible underlying causes if it persists.

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22Fruitmincepies
25 minutes ago, BusbyWilkes said:

IIRC (and it may be a different member), have you had other concerns re her development along the way? Not major ones, but a couple of other smaller things? 

Agree with others that the humming is most likely a tic. Common in kids with anxiety, ASD, sensory issues and to a lesser extent ADHD. Definitely worth discussing with your psych and keeping  in mind possible underlying causes if it persists.

I have, all little things individually, but you are right, they do add up, so you have prompted me to google “adhd in girls”. Well, it reads like a list of my childhood (especially teenage years)! My brother should have had a diagnosis, but the stigma was pretty bad in the 90s and my parents didn’t pursue it. We also tease my mum about her adhd traits. And definitely a few things on the list are DD, so will bring it up with her psych. One of her good friends got a diagnosis last year, so I’ve got specialist recommendations sorted if we need. 

While I was googling I was watching DD eat some afternoon tea, she was rolling around on the couch, leaping over a cushion, doing head stands... and now she’s in her room humming and talking to herself while playing. She really struggles to stay still.

Over the years we’ve done speech pathology for a stutter, and are going back today for several sounds that she still hasn’t got. We’ve done OT for fine motor skills (gross motor are excellent). She’s had issues with clothing sensitivity like socks (and 2yo DS has just started on this 🙄) and tags, and is a fussy eater (healthy food, but nothing mixed or too flavoursome). She cries about all sorts of little things (which DH really struggles with) and stuff that isn’t actually even a problem, just might be a problem some time in the future. She’s struggling with school, she finds reading and writing hard, and is bewildered at how easy most of her friends find it. I was surprised at this as she’s obviously quite bright and I assumed she would love reading and school as much as I did (and she still will hopefully!). But she is also one of the youngest in her class. 

She has an incredible imagination, when she was 3 she started with one imaginary friend, and it developed into an entire imaginary world under her bed. She’s very sporty and likes the more thrilling activities like rock climbing and skiing. 

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PocketIcikleflakes

It sounds like it's worth looking into @22Fruitmincepies. It's great that you already have some recommendations for specialists too.

It's also worth keeping an open mind about autism though. ADHD overlap a lot. They are both associated with issues with executive function which can affect many of the things you've noticed with your DD. It can certainly affect learning style. 

She's sounds absolutely awesome, but I'm biased because the way you describe her is just like my DS 😏

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2 hours ago, 22Fruitmincepies said:

I have, all little things individually, but you are right, they do add up, so you have prompted me to google “adhd in girls”. Well, it reads like a list of my childhood (especially teenage years)! My brother should have had a diagnosis, but the stigma was pretty bad in the 90s and my parents didn’t pursue it. We also tease my mum about her adhd traits. And definitely a few things on the list are DD, so will bring it up with her psych. One of her good friends got a diagnosis last year, so I’ve got specialist recommendations sorted if we need. 

While I was googling I was watching DD eat some afternoon tea, she was rolling around on the couch, leaping over a cushion, doing head stands... and now she’s in her room humming and talking to herself while playing. She really struggles to stay still.

Over the years we’ve done speech pathology for a stutter, and are going back today for several sounds that she still hasn’t got. We’ve done OT for fine motor skills (gross motor are excellent). She’s had issues with clothing sensitivity like socks (and 2yo DS has just started on this 🙄) and tags, and is a fussy eater (healthy food, but nothing mixed or too flavoursome). She cries about all sorts of little things (which DH really struggles with) and stuff that isn’t actually even a problem, just might be a problem some time in the future. She’s struggling with school, she finds reading and writing hard, and is bewildered at how easy most of her friends find it. I was surprised at this as she’s obviously quite bright and I assumed she would love reading and school as much as I did (and she still will hopefully!). But she is also one of the youngest in her class. 

She has an incredible imagination, when she was 3 she started with one imaginary friend, and it developed into an entire imaginary world under her bed. She’s very sporty and likes the more thrilling activities like rock climbing and skiing. 

She sounds like a book character! I bet she could have some great adventures :)

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22Fruitmincepies

Thanks PPs, she’s a really fun and awesome and I worry that others won’t see her awesomeness and will just see the other stuff. She will indeed have some excellent adventures.

The speech pathologist this afternoon was interesting, at the beginning DD was so excited and anxious (an interesting combination) that she was stuttering like crazy, but by the end of the assessment her speech was completely smooth. She was highly motivated by the SP’s methods, and is doing a really good L sound already (SP says she usually wouldn’t do it in the assessment but could see how keen DD was to learn it). I was interested in the SP’s method of getting DD back on task - DD tried to get up from the chair about every 30s when not engaged fully in a task :lol:

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José
On 15/07/2020 at 3:42 PM, 22Fruitmincepies said:

No, totally NT. A little bit anxious. 

 

On 16/07/2020 at 5:32 PM, 22Fruitmincepies said:

I have, all little things individually, but you are right, they do add up, so you have prompted me to google “adhd in girls”. Well, it reads like a list of my childhood (especially teenage years)! My brother should have had a diagnosis, but the stigma was pretty bad in the 90s and my parents didn’t pursue it. We also tease my mum about her adhd traits. And definitely a few things on the list are DD, so will bring it up with her psych. One of her good friends got a diagnosis last year, so I’ve got specialist recommendations sorted if we need. 

While I was googling I was watching DD eat some afternoon tea, she was rolling around on the couch, leaping over a cushion, doing head stands... and now she’s in her room humming and talking to herself while playing. She really struggles to stay still.

Over the years we’ve done speech pathology for a stutter, and are going back today for several sounds that she still hasn’t got. We’ve done OT for fine motor skills (gross motor are excellent). She’s had issues with clothing sensitivity like socks (and 2yo DS has just started on this 🙄) and tags, and is a fussy eater (healthy food, but nothing mixed or too flavoursome). She cries about all sorts of little things (which DH really struggles with) and stuff that isn’t actually even a problem, just might be a problem some time in the future. She’s struggling with school, she finds reading and writing hard, and is bewildered at how easy most of her friends find it. I was surprised at this as she’s obviously quite bright and I assumed she would love reading and school as much as I did (and she still will hopefully!). But she is also one of the youngest in her class. 

She has an incredible imagination, when she was 3 she started with one imaginary friend, and it developed into an entire imaginary world under her bed. She’s very sporty and likes the more thrilling activities like rock climbing and skiing. 

Based on this its definitely possible there is something else going on here. Especially the sensory stuff. This doesn't usuly occur in isolation.  Its usually co-ocurring with ADHD and or ASD 

Its very worthy of further investigation. 

I once heard that a person with autism said they were a soup can. Autism was one of their ingredients.  As was funny, intelligent etc etc. Its one part of who they are, not only who they are. 

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