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Elfie34

Hi all

i have ndis for my asd son (8 years old) and we have some funding for consumables etc. I’m pretty sure I know the answer to this but if an OT writes that he needs a trampoline for self regulation, would I be able to purchase one using ndis? 

This new lockdown is freaking me out I need him to burn energy!

thanks

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AIR
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With the OT my son has for things under $500 all I had to have is a letter of recommendation from the OT and I keep it on file.

 

anything over $500 the OT had to do a assessment report (which we had to pay to have done)and he then sent it to through to our LAC and we than had to wait to hear the outcome.

 

doing the assessment report doesn’t guarantee that NDIS will approve it unfortunately.

 

we are selfed managed though so it may be different if yours is planned managed 

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Elfie34

We are self managed. Thanks for that AIR I will talk to our OT

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mum406

Springfree trampolines has a section on their website specifically about NDIS. I haven't had a good look at it as we already have one, but you may find some answers there

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Elfie34

Well I asked my LAc and she said we can’t use funds for a trampoline because it is considered an everyday item. That doesn’t seem right to me- considering that the whole consumables/ AT (assistive technology) section is stuff you can buy from everyday shops and also there is a section on the apringfree website saying you can use NDIS funds as pp mentioned.

has anyone bought a trampoline for a child with autism using self managed ndis funds? I’ve had problems with our Lac in the past and already had to review the plan for this year because she forgot a very significant thing we had planned for off the plan...

Sigh. I’m already considering tutoring for my son which I know NDIS won’t cover so was hoping I could at least get a trampoline to help with finances (and his self regulation)

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Mrs Claus
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Unfortunately I think it will be difficult. My understanding is if it’s something you would purchase for any child you won’t get funded for it. Ie. Swimming lessons-ndis won’t pay But If  your child needs one on one they may pay the difference in cost

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nightmarish

I'm pretty sure trampolines are also considered high risk, so need approval from NDIS before purchasing. 

The system is so complex and illogical at times. You end up spending thousands in reports to fund items worth hundreds.

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MsLaurie

The general logic is that NDIS will pay for things that are over and above what could reasonably be expected in raising a child. So a standard trampoline wouldn’t really qualify as many people routinely purchase them for kids, regardless of sensory needs.

However if you need some special one that’s got unique features (I don’t know... maybe like a particular tension or shape or something??) than that might qualify. 

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José

Im pretty sure a trampoline is not low risk in NDIS world.

It requires explicit approval which is hard to get. 

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mum406

I did a little more searching and from what I can find it is possible but has to be pre approved as its a type 3 AT. You could put in for a review and have supporting letters from his OT and any other therapists he sees, you may have a better chance at the moment with all the covid things as they have been making extra allowances for certain things.

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blimkybill

It has always been a no in my experience too. Not low enough risk, and too commonly purchased for *any* child. 

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sahmie

We had our funky monkey bars funded this year. The cost was split between my two girls plans, who were both struggling with self regulating while stuck at home for the term. 
Under normal circumstances, they would have had access to monkey bars both at school, and after school at playgrounds, and with lockdown, they obviously didn’t have the same outlet. 
Our OT wrote a report, which was approved within a week. 
We were incredibly fortunate with the timing - two days after I’d ordered the equipment, Victoria opened up playgrounds again, which would have made our argument for funding null and void,  and with the way things are in Vic at the moment, it looks like we’ll be locked down again very soon. 
 

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Elfie34

Thanks so much everyone. Seems like it may be possible with a review and lots of admin. Now I have to work out if I have the energy to try to fight this or just try to go for lots of walks instead. If it wasn’t for covid lockdown I would probably let it go. 

 

Mum406 that is especially helpful- was it on the ndis website? I couldn’t find it when I looked

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PurpleWitch

I'm a SC and I'd say yes if you were self managed.

If you can link it to his disability and a goal. Then yep. NDIS have been incredibly flexible during covid. I have purchased all manner of things for people ;)

In WA the AT budget is $1500. 

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Elfie34

Update for those interested. I called the ndis and they said That while I couldn’t get a trampoline from my plan as stated, i could put in a request if I include a quote and supporting information and letters from specialists etc. they would then review and make a decision.

i talked to our OT and asked her to write a letter. She came back to me and said that she spoke to her supervisor and they didn’t think they should write a supporting letter primarily due to the high risk associated with trampolines, and the low success rate in the past with trampolines and the ndis.

So I’m thinking I have almost no hope now if I can’t get a supporting letter? Our psychologist suggested she could also write a letter but thinking that might not be enough. 

 

Lockdown 2.0 is not working for me!

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José

I would think even with a letter its not guaranteed so without a letter I would think the chance of being approved is tiny.

I wouldn't think a psych letter would help. With purchases under this category you often need to demonstrate why cheaper options are not suitable and ideally these would have been trialled.

It can take many hours to get the paperwork together. So potentially you could spend $1000 on reports and still have it declined.  

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MsLaurie

Is the trampoline you want something that you could ask your family/friends to chip in for as a birthday gift or something? 

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AIR

Have the OT and supervisor given you alternate equipment ideas that will help your son with self regulation and sensory input especially during lock down?

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An example of what my OT email me 
 
 
 
As discussed, here is a list of items that would be beneficial for My child’s development. Due to My child’s current lack of activity, I am happy to give the green light to almost any equipment that would get him up and moving. Below are some ideas we have already discussed:
- Basketball hoop
- Big wheel/wiggle trike
- yoga ball
- Swing set (preferably with a platform swing or disc swing)
- Crash mat 
- Ankle weights
- Sticky ball target game
 
As I mentioned, take him down to a local store and get him to pick out some things he'd be willing to try. It always seems the best way to get his buy in!
 
Have a great week, 
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Elfie34
4 minutes ago, AIR said:

Have the OT and supervisor given you alternate equipment ideas that will help your son with self regulation and sensory input especially during lock down?

Yes and I will totally follow that up

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Elfie34
2 minutes ago, AIR said:
An example of what my OT email me 
 
 
 
As discussed, here is a list of items that would be beneficial for My child’s development. Due to My child’s current lack of activity, I am happy to give the green light to almost any equipment that would get him up and moving. Below are some ideas we have already discussed:
- Basketball hoop
- Big wheel/wiggle trike
- yoga ball
- Swing set (preferably with a platform swing or disc swing)
- Crash mat 
- Ankle weights
- Sticky ball target game
 
As I mentioned, take him down to a local store and get him to pick out some things he'd be willing to try. It always seems the best way to get his buy in!
 
Have a great week, 

Great ideas thanks

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AIR

The words I was looking forward equipment  for proprioceptive and vestibular Input.

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PurpleWitch

See your problem is asking NDIS.

 

Do it and ask for forgiveness, not permission ;)

 

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José
6 minutes ago, PurpleWitch said:

See your problem is asking NDIS.

 

Do it and ask for forgiveness, not permission ;)

 

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I might have missed this info, but does the OP have a self managed AT budget? 

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PurpleWitch
3 minutes ago, José said:

I might have missed this info, but does the OP have a self managed AT budget? 

She has :)

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