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DS has been going to his daycare for just on three years. We have always been pretty happy with the centre up until this year.

 

I am all for cultural diversity and kids learning different languages and experiences but our centre has now skewed to one culture to the detriment of learning about Australia. Australia day passed by with barely a mention, I didn't really think of it at the time but I have looked back at past newsletters and there was barely a mention. There is little discussion on Australian animals, our States, bush tucker, Aboriginal culture and arts etc.

 

Anyway, Friday evening at about 9.30pm an email came through from the centre about a week of festivities focusing on Fista Junita or something like that, no idea what the hell but I googled it as the kids all have to wear contumes on Thursday with a build up to the event all week. I googled what to wear and while sites came up with boobs hanging out, people drunk, a promo porn site and little boys with mastashes and sticks. So not happy....

 

We have quite a few people at our centre which are from south America and that it fabulous but I am getting more and more concerned that the relevant stuff is being pushed aside to what suits them.....

 

So I want to opt out of the whole week for DS, I cannot keep him home as I have to work but is this standard at other centres???

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Expelliarmus

You might mean festa junina - Brazilian midsummer festival.

 

It seems a harmless enough festival to celebrate to me. There are some religious elements that it's been linked to given colonialism but mostly dancing and feasting.

 

I wouldn't opt him out if the learning but I would give feedback to the centre that you'd like some more focus on indigenous culture.

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avocado toast

I wouldn't opt out but I would tell them you would like events on the Australian special days/holidays also so

It's all inclusive

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Hini

Perhaps the centre has taken the view that it is providing something unique and interesting?

 

Daycare centres are not primarily about education and learning. To be honest I think you're over thinking it. I would not expect daycare to acknowledge Australia Day or cover any particular 'curriculum'.

 

If there is 'relevant stuff' you think they're missing out on then that's what you can focus on at home. I googled fista junina and it just looked bright and colourful. Nothing inappropriate.

 

I would not be opting out. Your son will just feel excluded.

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~Jolly_F~

I googled both fista Junita and festa junina and no boobs, drunk people or porn came up...

 

I think it's pretty normal for centres to celebrate certain things especially if they have people from that background attending.

 

As above I would let my kid join in but give feedback to the centre if I was really annoyed by it.

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Hands Up

Our centre seems to celebrate a lot of significant events from other cultures but the main emphasis is on "traditional" celebrations such as Easter hat parades etc. I don't remember any celebrations for Australia Day but perhaps there were.

 

I wouldn't be remotely bothered about the kids learning about a different culture. A week long celebration seems a bit long, mainly because of the work I'd have to put in to costumes etc.

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South Coast

I'm definitely going to give feedback on the centre - I think it would be much more relevant for all children to have the South American children come in dressed up and have the Brazilian staff talk about it with the other kids over a period of half a day or something. Then another culture some other time - my SIL is Japanese and DS loves his cousin and seeing him in Japanese dress.

 

To do a whole entire week is completely useless as far as I am concerned, and I am overthinking it because a pay a fortune for him to attend the place... Last year we had a whole month dedicated to Brazil because of the Olympics....

 

This is one of the images that came for me..

 

https://www.google.com.au/url?sa=i&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=images&cd=&cad=rja&uact=8&ved=0ahUKEwjYo9mx69jUAhVGybwKHR9ABDAQjRwIBw&url=https%3A%2F%2Fmarketplace.secondlife.com%2Fp%2FLEGEND-VESTIDO-FESTA-JUNINA%2F3656973&psig=AFQjCNH4tsshqjgKqI9-niIvHaqbE5p3kg&ust=1498474684224095

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MerryMadrigalMadge

How much relevancy does learning about states, flags etc have to 3-4 yos?

 

They are celebrating a theme that is loud, vibrant, colourful to a child - I'd be all for that.

 

DD has attended 3 daycares, a kinder and now school - Australia Day is still a kind of weird, difficult thing to celebrate, and personally I'd be uncomfortable with an overt flag waving exercise just for the sake of it.

 

 

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AnythingGoes

Pretty sure it would be Festa Junina - which appears to be about celebrating rural life (so peasant costumes). According Wikipedia appears to be based on the festival for St John the Baptist and then coincided with the rains became thanks for the rains. Personally I find the way Catholic traditions merged with south American traditions fascinating.

 

However I understand not wanting to do a costume (being fundamentally lazy).

Not sure why you would opt out of the whole week - can't see what harm it will do him.

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JinksNewton

"boobs hanging out and drunk people"?

Sounds more like you were looking up Australia Day to me (which would be why I don't participate in it ;)).

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Acidulous Osprey

Daycare centres do have standards to meet, it's not a free for all.

 

But certainly your charming idea of othering people who don't meet your standards of Australia oy oy oy is fabulous! Nothing better than dressing people up in their native garb (even if they were born here) to entertain the actual white Australians!

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~Jolly_F~

Sounds like a pretty cool centre to me. I would be happy for my kids to go to one like that :)

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AnythingGoes

Also at our childcare a lot of the celebrations are driven by parent volunteers (ie one day a parent will come in an make anzac cookies and talk about anzac day, or help organise diwali, etc).

So maybe no parents are volunteering for those things you mentioned.

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Coffeegirl

if you are concerned that the centre is negelcting the Australian history, animals etc, then by all means bring it up with them. Maybe offer to assist with some ideas yourself.

 

But honestly I'd be happy that a centre was trying to make all its children feel welcome and want to share their culture with the other children.

 

Hell of a lot better than one of our local centres who used to just put the tv on and leave the kids to it :glare:

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just roses

We had 18 nationalities represented at our centre. The main festival that was celebrated, though, was Diwali Festival of Light. Also, Christmas and Easter got a look in. I had no issue with the kids learning about Diwali, though. At home, they get the bog standard Judeo-Christian celebations (we're a Christian family), so why not learn something new?

 

I still miss that centre and I especially miss DD's gorgeous middle eastern carer who used to make a 'sh*tten turry' (chicken curry) for lunch that my daughter would devour. Now DD won't eat anything like that.

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Heather11

No boobs came up in my search either.

 

Costume for a boy looks as simple as some jeans, a checked shirt and straw hat.

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BornToLove

Every year our centre (and now DD's OSHC) ask what cultural/religious events we celebrate at home. We put down events we celebrate and they usually touch on the events in some way.

 

For example we celebrate thanksgiving and one year DD's day care served for lunch turkey and trimmings on Canadian thanksgiving (early October). They did talk about taking time to show thanks for those around you etc. it was quite nice.

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José

Ive experienced festa junina. And while i may have been drunk i can assure you i didnt get my boobs out!

 

I dont understand your angst at all.

And cant imagine what you think 'opting out' would involve given you said you cant keep him home.

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just roses

This is an image search on 'festa junina' in google chrome.

 

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=festa+junina&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwiGhdD67tjUAhULwrwKHeOtClgQ_AUICigB&biw=1680&bih=944

 

It looks fantastic! I would love my kids to celebrate that for a week. Just as I'm so glad they learned heaps about Brazil last year during the Olympics. Personally, the only reason I know anything about Catalonia and it's place in Spain and the tensions between Barcelona and Madrid, is because of my teachers in high school tailoring units around the 1992 Olympics. I still remember that stuff.

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maryanneK

OP I get your point and I think people are being a bit harsh

But not worth opting out over. they wont know or care why the dress ups etc....

A whole week of it seems way OTT

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Mrs Zee

I'm definitely going to give feedback on the centre - I think it would be much more relevant for all children to have the South American children come in dressed up and have the Brazilian staff talk about it with the other kids over a period of half a day or something. Then another culture some other time - my SIL is Japanese and DS loves his cousin and seeing him in Japanese dress.

 

To do a whole entire week is completely useless as far as I am concerned, and I am overthinking it because a pay a fortune for him to attend the place... Last year we had a whole month dedicated to Brazil because of the Olympics....

 

 

 

 

You've mentioned you have a large south American population at the centre. What you describe above is a bit tokenistic, which isn't inclusive at all though.

 

It sounds to me like the centre are doing a good job of catering to their clients and making everyone feel welcome.

 

FWIW not all children are at day care 5 days a week, so often these events are held over several days or the week (sometimes it's completely relevant to the festival they're celebrating too) because other kids would miss out if they only did it one day a week.

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tres

I think it's possibly an nice way for your child to enjoy culture they may otherwise not be exposed to.

 

It's your job to educate and expose them to culture more so than a child care centre so maybe start with that?

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Lou-bags

I'm baffled. I really can't see the problem with spending one week out of 52 celebrating a culture that many of the children attending belong to.

 

What a beautiful way to help them feel included and welcomed.

 

Our childcare is inclusive and multicultural. They celebrate many aspects of non- Australian cultures and I think it's brilliant.

 

They also spend whole weeks with a focus on any other thing that has sparked the children's interest (like volcanoes, a whole week of activities and learning about volcanoes). I love how they take what is going on in the children's lives etc as a primer to create fun and also learning opportunities. DS1 and I once rescued a lost dog on the way to childcare. So the next week the teachers had organized activities about pets, a pretend vet, all the stories that week were about pets etc etc.

 

So spending a week with activities centered on a cultural celebration observed by many families I the centre is a no brainer to me.

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Feral Grey Mare

Perhaps they do a whole week so that the children who don't attend every day can all share in the celebrations?

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Heather11

I would imagine they are focusing on it for a whole week because not every child attends daycare for the 5 days. If they only did it on Monday and Tuesday then any children that only attended from Wednesday to Friday would miss out.

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