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Did anyone else see this? Her response to Waleed made me ragey.

 

She seemed so naive, unemotional, and expressionless. As though she's a bit of a puppet.

 

I was hoping Waleed would go for the jugular. Thought Carrie cut him off too quickly.

 

Any thoughts?

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Nasty Teens

I had to turn the to off. Not good for my blood pressure.

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SkeptiHandsOnMum

Oh YES!

 

I am about to lose a FB "friend" over it, as he is pretty much a MRAer, but just came in raging without having seen her stupid, ignorant retort.

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Chelli

My kids made me mute it because I was yelling at the tv. I was then required to breathe and think of puppies, rainbows and butterflies according to my 12 year old.

 

I just shake my head at people though sometimes. Seriously.

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SkeptiHandsOnMum

Waleed's facial expression was reassuring at least.

 

My kids made me mute it because I was yelling at the tv. I was then required to breathe and think of puppies, rainbows and butterflies according to my 12 year old.

 

I just shake my head at people though sometimes. Seriously.

PMSL ... I had to apologise to my children for screaming "Oh **** right off!"

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Nasty Teens

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

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SkeptiHandsOnMum

I am in no way ignorant of the fact that DV occurs with men on the receiving end. But to push that agenda with an ignorant comment that Luke Batty's murder was proof that DV occurs against men?????? She lost me there.

 

Even to have used a gay male death as an example would have been iffy (focus on the "victim" and not the perpetrator). But to use the death of a CHILD????

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Nasty Teens

And there are significant "men's issues". Prostate cancer, suicide, violence, fatherhood...to name a few. However, a. Some of these fights are expressed through feminist fights, and b. Women cannot be expected to be at the forefront of EVERY SINGLE FIGHT.

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AsperHacker

I haven't seen it, will watch when kids are in bed. But her being naive was exactly the impression I got from her when I saw The Red Pill. I find it really strange that anyone takes her seriously as a doco maker. I mean, I know its cognitive dissonance in this case, but it's just weird to support someone with such a poor understanding of a subject (even from the mra perspective) who really offers a whole lot of nothing substantial.

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aace

How could she not see the irony that she was hanging her hat on the fact she had won a 'Women in film" (or similar) award for her doco? She does realise that these awards wouldn't exist if the films directors weren't overwhelmingly male and coz you know ... feminism.

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lazycritter

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

 

 

This is what all the MRAS conveniently forget! There was a conversation about whether more men were reapplied in the USA than women. Completely missing the point that men were the perpetrators in the majority of cases.

And like it was a p*ssing contest!

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Nasty Teens

I haven't seen it, will watch when kids are in bed. But her being naive was exactly the impression I got from her when I saw The Red Pill. I find it really strange that anyone takes her seriously as a doco maker. I mean, I know its cognitive dissonance in this case, but it's just weird to support someone with such a poor understanding of a subject (even from the mra perspective) who really offers a whole lot of nothing substantial.

 

The thing I couldn't get is how strongly she agreed/supported he own beliefs then had to warp new information to support these views.

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aace

Also a little OT but how do MRAs claim that majority of women get custody (as Cassie said)?? When I was going through separation with DH, I saw 3 different family lawyers for various things are they all advised me that while I would get majority now due to me being the primary carer and the kids ages that the expectation would be a 50/50 shared arrangement from school age and the onus would be on me to prove why this wouldn't be in the best interests of the children for me to receive more of a share.... As in turns out the issue I had was getting ex DH to see his children in the first place (anyway another story) but it is like the MRAs are aware of some sort of family court conspiracy that lawyers are not???

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lazycritter

Can someone stop me arguing with someone on facebook.

 

Never read the comments, never read the comments.

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Nobody Cool

I turned over to 9Life. Ain't nobody got time for that.

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Nobody Cool

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

 

MRAs aren't going to let a little thing like "facts" get in the way of their victimhood narratives.

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TigerQueenofSheeba

I'm going to preface this by saying I know nothing about the red pill.

 

After watching this interview I'm a little confused as to why she can't say that Luke Batty is a male victim of domestic violence and have it be a separate issue to the fact that the perpetrator was male?

 

Or is that that particular statement has to go along with something in the movie?

 

ETA that's not a question from opinion but a genuine question. I felt like I missed something watching that interview and I guess it just showed me that I really don't understand a lot of these issues. I can be a bit black and white in my thinking.

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YodaTheWrinkledOne

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

That did my head in!!!

No focus on the PERPETRATOR. Her use of language in the interview was a stellar example of how violence against women and children is minimised and disconnects from the perpetrator of the crime/violence.

 

I found it very frustrating to watch.

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Wolf87

Anyone got a link?

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Bam1

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

 

His death waa also domestic violence against the mother as, ( apologies if I'm incorrect) the motivation was not so much to hurt Luke but to hurt the mother

 

I'm glad I missed the ptoject tonight

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lazycritter

Babylove, males can get help when they are the victims...are you saying your friends were turned away from help and supports?

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Wolf87

The Luke Batty being a male victim of domestic violence, without the ability to understand that the violence was perpetrated by a MALE was what did my head in.

 

Was I imagining the smug look on her face when she realised the victim was a male? I sure ****ing hope so.

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Lou-bags

 

There are no services, no councelling, no help for men, even though they are a minority why can't they have help with DV if they are the victims?

 

 

Rubbish.

 

As a PP said, many (probably most, I would say) services are for ALL victims.

 

E.g.

From the government

https://www.humanservices.gov.au/customer/subjects/family-and-domestic-violence

 

 

Domestic Violence Crisis Service

All victims

https://dvcs.org.au

 

1800RESPECT is women and child focused on their goals and mission, but even they state they're designed to provide services to anyone who is a victim of DV and needs counseling and advice

https://www.1800respect.org.au/about/

 

 

 

And Mensline, set up as somewhere for perpetrators to seek help, also provides assistance to victims. Male victims only.

 

 

I would hazard a guess that one of the few places where male victims would not be welcome would be women's shelters. A no brainer and not something anyone could reasonably disagree with.

 

It's just MRA spin and bullsh*t to pretend that these services are not available to men.

 

All that huff and puff to deflect from the ACTUAL issue which is men's violence.

 

Some disclaimers for those who need them:

 

#notallmen #yessomewomenbutatinytinypercentageofallperpetrators

#butmyanecdotetrumpsthefactsblahblah

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