Hi EBer's,

I need some advice.

My DS is 9 weeks old & overall a happy & content baby. On average he sleeps for 5 hr stretches at night ( up to 8 hrs!!) & only has one or 2 feeds so I'm not complaining.
Currently he sleeps in a bassinet next to my side of the bed & he's getting better at self settling with just patting.....but this last week we've noticed a change.

After his night feed ( anytime from 12-3am) he's harder to settle and very restless. His eyes are closed & for all intensive purposes I think he's in REM sleep but doesn't seem to move onto the next deeper stage of sleep & it's doing my head in. He kicks his legs around, grunts, groans, squeals and everything in between ( like he's trying to fart ). He's doesn't cry & I know when he's hungry... but I'm a really light sleeper and between DS & DH's snoring I'm finiding hard to sleep even though he is...

We're discussing moving him out of our room which wasn't part of the plan, I wanted him in our room for 6 months at least. We do have an excellent top of the range monitor with video etc so can still see him but I'm having the guilts.


Anyone had a similar experience, can offer me any advice, tips on settling etc etc etc.


TIA Purple

OP. Don't feel bad for being human.

With DS I moved him into his cot at a shocking 3weeks old.

i couldn't stand it. He snored, he snuffled, he grunted. As if only getting 2-3 hours sleep at a time wasn't bad enough I was being woken every five minutes by his night-time antics.

Then DD came along. She was a beautiful sleeper and I kept her in the cot next to me for more than a year. I didn't want to let her go.

Different babies act differently. You've got a great monitor, your baby won't be seriously affected and you're going to get enough sleep to be an alert and interactive mother.

Shake off the guilts and focus on the good it'll do.

We ended up moving DD to her room around 8-10 weeks. I'm a light sleeper and she's a noisy sleeper so she kept me awake at night and DH getting up in the morning always woke her up. So she went into her own room and we all slept better.

We don't have a monitor but her room is just across the hall so I can hear crying but not the sleep noises that used to keep me awake. I found I adjusted really quickly to her being in another room, anything that I hear that sounds like her upset and I'm awake instantly but I'm not being woken up with every snuffle, grunt and mumble.

I'd move him, a mummy who gets a decent night's sleep is must better for him than a tired mummy.

No judgement here as my 3 have all started off in their own rooms from the first day we brought them home. I found I could not relax if I could hear every little noise they made as newborns (they're noisy!) & this worked much better for me. I didn't find getting up & feeding in the middle of the night hard as I would do it in the lounge so I could watch some trashy tv to pass the time anyway.

Whatever ensures you get the most restful sleep is key during these early weeks.

THIS!!



DS was about 7 weeks old I think and I just snapped one night, moved him out the next day and we both slept much better after that.

Now if I could only get rid of my other noisy room mate...........

I had DD in my room until 10 weeks. I remember the night I moved her out. It was my sister's birthday and I cried myself to sleep because DD wasn't right next to me. That was the first night she slept the whole night without waking up and we never looked back! The reason I put her in her own room was the snuffling and grunting, because as mums we are programmed to wake up at the slightest baby noise which is why you can't sleep, and let me guess, your DH sleeps right through it?

Don't feel bad. I lasted a whole 2 nights with my first. He was just too noisy, plus it didn't make sense to keep waking DH when I fed and settled DS1 - when he had to get up early for work. DS1 slept great in his own room and I had a monitor so I could hear him (would have anyway but I liked being able to listen in and hear his breathing if I wanted to). DS2 was in our room out of necessity for a painful 4 months. The DAY we moved to a bigger house he went into his own room and immediately went from waking every 1.5 hours overnight to waking just twice to feed.


#3 may spend a few nights in our room but then will be going into his/her own room too. This time I'll have a bed in there though for those nights when you can't get away.

I moved a couple of my kids out of my room for that reason. Some babies are just really noisy.

Same here for me, except I only had two snuffleupagus' who were bad even from the hospital.

Your child, you decide whats best for everyone involved.

Thanks ladies, not feelig so bad now & have moved his bassinet into the room just across from our bedroom , his nursery is at the other end of the house & I think I'd like him closer just for a few more months....first time mum..can you tell lol

DH does sleep through most of it but several times has insited I go sleep in the spare room, not a long term solution but it's saved my sanity a couple of times.

We'll trial it tonight & seehow he goes...wish me luck :-)

Fantastic! Don't feel guilty - it's better for everyone!

All the best

I did this too, but I wouldn't do it again. Can you try foam earplugs? You'll still hear if the baby wakes up crying, but it might muffle enough of the other sounds. Or perhaps try some white noise for you.

Reminds me of when DD was about 6 weeks old... between her and DP, it was like being wedged between two happy sleeping piggies snuffling, snoring and farting away in their sleep. In the end I got up and slept in the spare room. I'm not a particularly light sleeper but these two were and still are loud sleepers. The next day we moved her into her own room.
Also DP is like a clumsy bumbling fool getting up in the morning and used to disturb her. It was a much better arrangement that suited us all.

DD was in her own room by 3 weeks old. We all slept much better that way. And it meant that DH could come back into bed with me because he was sleeping on the mattress in the lounge room (he's a very light sleeper).

Due to layout of our home DS2 slept in the study in a portacot at night and in his room during the day. It worked well for us for the first 10 wks, then after that he was awake less at night so in his room fulltime. I have to admit, having him call out through the monitor was more night torture than across the hall

Our boys must be about the same age and you have lasted longer than me! He hasnt been in our room since about a week old. He is SO loud!
I think my SIL was a bit shocked I moved him out so early until we went on holidays together and he was sleeping just outside our bedroom door and she was up feeding her baby and checked on DS because he was being so loud and grunty and wriggly and he was fast asleep. When I got up she said, "Wow, he really is loud isnt he!?!"
Until someone has a really loud baby I just dont think they quite get it...

DD1 went straight into her own room, DD2 kept us awake with her noisy antics for 4 weeks before we cracked, DD3 won't get a look in as we are scarred from DD2. Don't feel bad, some people can't sleep in the same room as noisy sleeping babies.

Don't feel bad OP, you have to do what works for you and your family. If you all sleep better in your own rooms, do it.

We moved DS into his own room at 12 weeks because he sleeps much better on his own and it works for us.

Hey not a first time mum thing. I have 3 kids and I would never have a newborn right down the other end of the house. For one I am to lazy for that! And I would never have them that far away. I always had mine in our room till 6 months.. just easier to check on them and get up to them in the middle of the night. But mind you I have only just moved my 17 month old out of our room and I miss her. lol

Op, have you ever taken baby to a chiropractor? It may be that he is finding very hard to get comfy due to a subluxation. Something to Consider?

Thanks for the suggestion, he sleeps very peacefully during the day & for his 'first night sleep' it's just after his midnight feed he gets grunty. I'll bear it in mind though, cheers.


Stained - yes I think our boys are very close in age ...& yes he's so noisey. I'll see how we go tonight & report back!

DS went through a very noisy period from about 6 weeks for a month or so. Grunting and all sorts of noises. It did settle down though, it can just be a phase that passes. When he stopped I kept waking up because I couldn't hear him lol!

We didn't have an option to move him out as the only room we could put him in was too far away and I also didn't want to so just had to deal with it. He is still in our room at 8 months and hasn't been noisy for months.

Just incase you want to keep him with you there is light at the end of the tunnel

Room sharing is recommended in the SIDs guidelines, I knew this well but I couldn't cope around the 3 month mark, I was suffering from anxiety and insomnia. Moving dd out of the room helped in one way but I did stress about it and not want to do it, but I felt I needed to do it to see if it helped me. I also had her in the next room and up against the wall so I could hear her quickly. Mums are designed to instinctively hear their little baby, aren't they.
We got through. I wish it was easy for me to sleep but it wasn't.

My DD never slept in our room! Our room is off the lounge and she slept there day and night for the first few weeks. Gradually I moved her to her room for day sleeps then one night she was asleep in her room and I wanted to go to bed so she slept nights in her room from then. We visited family in a regional area when she was 4 weeks old and being in the motel room she kept me awake most of the night with the noise she made while asleep. Don't feel guilty about moving her, a rested mummy is better!

I couldn't wait to move my kids out for this exact reason, they were such noisy sleepers.

We all slept much better once they moved. I just couldn't sleep through it, I was constantly listening out and on edge waiting for them to wake (and of course they didn't, they were just shuffling about and grunting in their sleep). So once I moved them into the next room I could still hear if they woke, but I couldn't hear all those little noises.

Much better than sleeping with a pillow over my head which is what I did when they were in my room!

[quote]We're discussing moving him out of our room which wasn't part of the plan, I wanted him in our room for 6 months at least. We do have an excellent top of the range monitor with video etc so can still see him but I'm having the guilts.[/quote]



It's perfectly fine not to room share but remember it is protective against SIDs for the first 6-12 months but ........it's only 1 of several things you can do to keep your baby at a lower risk.

A top of the range monitor isn't going to contribute to lower SIDS risk in any way

My babies are noisy too ( 11 month old still is) but we still room & bed share). I'm hoping i can kick him out soon

Over time I think I just got used to their noises

#1 was in a room that opened into ours - almost like being in a large walk-in-robe! She was a snorer from the start and I (unwittingly) found her constant noise reassuring. But it wasn't right next to me! (She had her tonsils and adenoids out at 5 due to sleep obstructed breathing - the snoring should have been a giant red flag!)

#2 was in the same room as #1 from birth, but was a quiet little thing when asleep. I used to be up and down like a yo-yo checking because there was no "reassuring" snore...

#3 was in a bassinette right next to me for seven months - there wasn't any room in the other bedroom (we had a 2br house). She snorted and snuffled and wuffled for a couple of months, then settled down. Her unpleasant habbit was waking for her night feed with a full-blooded scream - no warm up sounds, just straight into the scream. I didn't want that in with the other two (3y4m between #1 and #3).

#4 is in a cradle next to our bed. We live in a bigger house, and she sleeps in the room she will share with #3 during the day. At night she burps, farts, grunts, snorts, snurgles, gurgles, groans...the whole symphony of sounds! But she is still suffering from reflux and we will endure until she is a bit more settled. Although DH is making pointed comments about evicting her!

At the end of it all, you need to do what works for all of you. I keep #4 close for the above reasons, but I think the real reason is that this is our last babe and I don't want to let go of her!!!!

Oh - with the snuffling etc, #4 does it less is we use Fess nose spary on her during the day. I just give each nostril a one squirt before every feed and at every nappy change.

Thanks again to everyone for your experiences, it's good to know we are not alone.

Good news is we decided we wanted him to stay in the room & decided to best thing was to move the bassinet away from my side of the bed to the other side of the room. We have quite a large bedroom so it works well. I still hear some noise but last night we all slept soundly...infact I think he slept better too & he's still only a few meters from the bed

Happy Days & Nights !

Glad you have a solution.

What I did was move my DS into his own room when he got too big for the bassinet, and needed to go into his cot. I go to sleep in my room then after his first overnight feed I shift into the guest bed in his room for the rest of the night.

The night I came home from the hospital with DD she was in her own room. I hadn't noticed until then just how much noise she made when she slept even if it was just rustling her blanket. I would jump up at every noise to make sure she was OK. As soon as she was evicted I slepts so much better
Just do what you feel is right OP I am sure you DS will appreciate a well rested mummy more then he'll care about where he is put to sleep each night