Time for a new thread ladies. Old thread is here.

Emma

Hi all,

Well, it's good news. On Valentine's Day we saw our tiny little baby's heart beating! I'm only 6 weeks so I'm still terrified because I lost the last one at almost 8 weeks. But I'm trying to let myself feel happy about this news now. It seems IVF was the right choice for us in the end. Hope you're all okay and had a nice Valentines Day. I'll stop in on the look out for good news from all of you. Take care. xox

Glad to hear your U/S went well, hope that its a nice sticky one for you.

Seems my body held off a couple of days before it ovulated, around CD18-20, since I'm not tracking and charting anymore I don't know the actual day, just going off body signs and CM. Nothing much to really report.

How is everyone else going?

HaleyW - that is great news and how lovely that you got to hear your little bub's heartbeat!! I am sure that all will be fine for you and will keep my fingers crossed so hard for you!!

Shelby - you never know - when you least expect it and all that!!

How is everyone else going??

Well I hope to follow in your foot steps Haleyw! We have our first FS appointment tomorrow!!! I am a little nervous but also excited that hopefully this will be the beginning of a new arrival for us too!!
I will let you know how it goes.

One of my good friends had her 3rd DD today - and while i am so thrilled for her and her family I am also feeling a little down - more jealous I guess and wishing so hard it was me too...is that awful of me? I wouldn't wish her situation to be any different I just wish I could share in the newborn joy of my own.
I can't even visit at the moment as I have a bit of a cold...I am hoping though her having her bub today and me going to the FS tomorrow is a good sign!!

I can only hope!!

Best wishes to all xx

Thanks Shelby - Like Raffi said you just never know....fingers crossed.

Raffi - Thank you! I can empathise with you re: your friend- just about every one of my friends fell pregnant in the two years we were trying for a baby. It's heartbreaking. You feel so torn between wanting to feel happy for them but this overwhelming sadness and envy is always there. Don't feel bad about how you're feeling - it's totally natural and if the situation were reversed I guarantee your friend would be feeling exactly the same.
Good luck with the FS - yes, please keep me posted! I'm really looking forward to hearing you announce your good news soon!

Thanks HaleyW for understanding! Well we went to the FS today and she was so lovely and said that given our history over the past couple of years of trying clomid and it not working etc that we are best to go straight to IVF. She said we could try IUI or FSH injections first for a couple of months but if that didn't work then it would be on to IVF anyway so it was up to us what we wanted to do. We have opted to go straight to IVF as we feel that is going to be our best chance.

So HaleyW I will be asking a few questions of you!! The FS said she thinks we will be pregnant within 3 cycles and by mid this year we should be pregnant!! It is very exciting thought!!

I feel so much better having made this decision as I feel like we might actually have a chance of another bub!!!! It feels much more real than "stabbing in the dark" every month.

So I have to go back for some tests and for the full IVF rundown on drugs etc on the 2 March and DH has to have his sperm re-tested just to make sure that is all good!!

So hopefully a BFP from me very soon!! I never thought we would ever go down the IVF path but now that we are I am just trying to accept it and think it doesn't really matter if we end up with a precious bundle of joy!!

Raffi - I'm so pleased for you! I'm sure your FS is right and you'll have your BFP really soon! It worked for us both times, but unfortunately m/s with the first transfer. So don't be disheartened if you have to use your frozen embryos - but hopefully your fresh one will work first go! - because sometimes they're the best ones.
I'm so pleased you decided not to go the IUI path first - in my experience it was wasted money and time and I actually found it more stressful than IVF. It's just so much more uncertainty with this procedure. Saying that, everyone is different and it can work for some - but form what I've learn't it doesn't work for most.
I'll be checking in regularly and feel free to PM me anytime with questions too! Take care and good luck! x

Hi Guys,
Popping in to say congrats again to Haley! this bubba sticks for you.

Raffi - Good luck on the IVF road, hopefully your FS is right!

AFM - My last AF was a few days "late" (normally I run a 25-26 day cycle, it came around day 29), I was so relaxed prior to getting AF, I didn't even remember exactly which day I got my prev AF. Then the stress started again when my SIL rings me up (whom I am close to) and out of the blue asks me if I am pregnant (a hunch she had)..then I realised what was going on, started worrying again and tried to pinpoint the day I got my last AF, which I think I worked out. Ended up being 3-4 days late, whole thing got me thinking, maybe SIL was right...did 2 HPTs a few days apart but no BFP. Then AF arrived.

Am so sick of my body stuffing me around. Just want to be normal and get on with things one way or another. ARGH!

Edited to add - Some of the ladies in the list up top must have had their bubbas by now...might go stalking...

Thanks Kerry. I'm so sorry you didn't get your BFP this time. Ive been in your position when my AF was 5 days late! And I was so sure the HPTs were wrong & it just makes it that much more devastating! Thinking & praying your next bub in coming really soon. Take care. x

Hi All

It has been a long while since I came in here and posted. I am so glad to see that the group is still as supportive of each other as when I was here and I am thrilled to see some more pregnancies amongst the group - most recently Hayley - that is sooo exciting. I hope Raffi that IVF brings you some luck and quickly. I know my FS said that we would be increasing our chances from around 10% per cycle to 33% per cycle which is a massive increase.

You may not recall but I had been TTC #2 for 2 years exactly with one ectopic and one m/c. I was ready last june (2010) to commence IVF and discovered I was pregnant naturally and it stuck! 24 months TTC, 3 pregnancies and 1 sticky is about 10% chance per cycle. I gave birth last Saturday night to a beautiful, healthy little girl and we named her Alice.

I wish you all the very best and hope to see more sticky pregnancies amongst the group.

Mumalbi

Congratulations Mumalbi on little Alice.

Raffi - Hope everything goes well with your start to IVF, hopefully it will be quick and not a long road.

Af should be due this week, anytime from about tomorrow to Friday as I didn't pinpoint the day I ovulated. I am thinking it will be earlier as I started spotting last night, and I can spot from sometimes a few days before AF to only the day before. Not really upset as every month I get more at peace with our decision to stop TTC actively. Of course if I got a I would be very happy, but I know my odds are basically nothing now.

Hi ladies

I had a friend announce her pregnancy today, of course I am extremely happy for her but out of this group of about 7 ladies who all have had number #1 around the time my son was born, I'm the only one that hasn't had or in the process of having #2. So after disolving into a puddle of tears I have decided to seek out others who know the fustration.

I'm about to turn 29 and I have a son who's almost 2 and a half. We've been trying for #2 for 14 months and our FS appointment is at the end of March. From the blood tests the GP has done it doesn't appear that anything is 'wrong' with me or causing my 60 day cycles. Hopefully the FS will give some more answers.

There's a bit of history in my family of only children on both my mum and dads side so as much as I want #2 I just can't envisage myself ever getting another. I just feel like it's a family curse that I can do nothing about, I'm trying to change my attitude about this because it can't be helping.

So that's my story. Looking forward to getting to know some of you ladies.

Lauren

Welcome to our very supportive group Lauren - but so sorry that you have to be here.

Thanks for sharing your story - it is strangely similar in some ways to mine as I too have history of only children on my Dad's side, plus I am an only child as my mum had problems - so I kind of feel like it is a curse too! However, I now have some hope after seeing a FS and we are about to do IVF which I have a feeling might work - it is the first time in ages that I have a feeling that I will actually have another child.

I know all too well the feeling of friends announcing their pregnancies....it happens all the time to me and while you are so happy for them, it just cuts like a knife doesn't it? So big *hugs* to you. I think seeing a FS is the best thing for you - look forward to hearing how you go.

I see you are studying - what is it you are studying? I study part time too - I am doing teaching.

Hopefully you will be able to move on from this group soon! (not that you are not welcome but it would mean you have your BFP!!) Look forward to chatting more soon.

Mumalbi - Big congratulations of the birth of you little girl Alice!! That is such wonderful news!

Dark Passenger - Thanks - I hope it works too!! Not too long to go for you now - that seems to have gone quickly!

Kexball - oh that is just so cruel of AF to get your hopes up like that. I know that feeling too...it is such a crush when the witch arrives...be kind to yourself.

Shelby - I hope you get the surprise that you are after...it must be hard though.

Well AFM - I am just letting Friday's news sink in and can't help but feel excited about it all! I know there is no guarantee IVF will work but I just so hope it does!! I am biding my time to my next appt which is Fridya next week.

Welcome Studymuffin, I hope your stay with us is short in a good way of course.

I know how you feel being lapped over with pregnancies and babies. In my time I had one friend (where we had our 1st 4 days apart and #2 3 months apart) have #3,#4 and #5 since we started, lots of people at work who I met not pregnant onto their 3rd pregnancies, and see it alot here - like the ones who got a at the same time as one of my 3 losses, and I have watched them have their babies while my arms stayed empty - and with my first loss, there are many who have had their 2nd and now coming back and talking about #3.

I know this sounds hard, but over time it passes. I reached my angry point around 18+ months TTC, really went off the deep end. I was so upset every time I heard someone else was pregnant, or hear about how easy it was, or how oops now they are having #4 and wished they weren't. Now it doesn't bother me as much. I still get a little sad inside when I hear someone is pregnant, or watch their belly grow - but I know they are not trying to do it on purpose and upset me. However its hard but is does dim over time.

I really hope you never have to reach that far and that your one of the lucky ones. However this group is good to be able to let out your honest feelings without upsetting anyone - trust me everything you feel we have or are currently having at the same time, so its nice to have people who understand.

BTW have you been trying to chart? I know you said you have 60 day cycles, but it will help tracking and getting an idea on when your about to ovulate so you don't miss the boat. Its also something to do while waiting for your FS appointment.

Hi all,

Welcome Lauren. We also sought help at 14 months ttc our second. This is after falling immediately with DD so was very unexpected. Shelby gives such great advice and I agree it does get easier over time. I was also at my angriest from 12 - 18 months and then it starts to get a bit easier to cope with. I hope you find an answer and will be pregnant again very soon. I hope you'll find comfort in getting the help you need. So many in this group have fallen pregnant naturally after 2 years trying - so you can never give up hope. It does happen sometimes with or without help.

Shelby - I'm praying that your time is near, even though you're no longer actively trying. I'm sorry it seems that this month might not bring good news. Thinking of you.

Beautiful D - Thank you - it was the best Valentines ever!

Raffi - so excited for you - good luck Friday week! Keep us posted.

Mumalbi - huge congratulations on your baby girl, Alice. What a gorgeous name!

Hi ladies, thank you for the warm welcome and for sharing your own journeys - sometimes it's comforting to know that you aren't the only one experiencing these emotions.

Raffi - Very similiar stories. Best of luck with the IVF, I really hope it gives you the ultimate result! When do you start? I'm majoring in PR minors in marketing and advertising. I go back to uni on Monday about to start my second year, have you started back yet? how far are you into your degree?

Shellby - You write beautifully, thank you for your insight. I've never been much of a jealous person before, I have fought and won over depression in my early 20's and with each subsequent pregnancy that was announced I told myself it didn't matter, that I would get there or that I had too much going on in my life for another anyway ... but there was something quite shattering about now being the last one and how easy it has been for everyone else. I suddenly feel quite heartbroken, it feels like someone has just broken a relationship off with me ... its the only way to describe it. Not sure how to get over that feeling, fingers crossed that maybe seeing the fertility specialist and doing something proactive about falling pregnant again might make me feel a little brighter. I'm not charting at the moment, I do find I get up at varying hours of the morning thanks to mister 2.5yr old that it's not consistent enough. I get wicked O pains and other clear signals around ovulation time so I just usually doing OPKs when I start getting them to pinpoint the day. Sorry to hear you have been waiting so long.

HaleyW - how did you find your FS appointment ... any pointers on what to expect?

Thanks again for making me feel so welcome. x

Hi Studymiffin - I am doing a Graduate Diploma in Education as I did a Media Studies and Journalism degree 10yrs ago - my teaching degree would be over and done with in 1.5yrs if I was doing it fulltime but with everything else going on I am just doing part time so it will take me at least 3yrs - if I fall pregnant in the next few months (fingers crossed!) then I will take next year off all together as I want to be able to fully devote myself to my DS/DD and my first DD in case I don't get the chance to have a third - I want to be able to cherish and spend as much time with my kids while they are very young as I can. Then I will go back to study! I started back at uni this week - only listened to one lecture so far though! Must find time to do the other unit!!

Your feelings are so very valid and alot of us here feel the same - we conceived my DD the second month off the pill and so never ever thought we would be doing IVF for our second - but here we are! Like you, at first I wasn't phased with everyone else having second child - we had lots of other stuff going on at the time and I thought it would happen eventually. But when months turned into years and my body clock is ticking very loudly then it got frustrating and upsetting. I now feel we have hope with IVF though and if that is what it takes!

Well gotta go pick DD up from school as early close today...hope everyone else is going oK!!

xx

Hi all,

Study Muffin - I would look for a FS in your area with a long history as a Fertility Specialist. I made the mistake of seeing a Gyno/Ob who is wanting to move into that area, and while he was lovely and delivered my DD I didn't feel he had the experience/resources to fully understand and treat us. We ended up switching part way through treatment, and that was quite stressful in itself. What city are you in? If we're in the same city I can PM you with my doctor's details - she was amazing, caring and very professional.

Raffi - Looking forward to hearing what your FS suggests and how soon you can start! Good luck with your studies, it's great to have a distraction - fertility treatment can be so all-consumiing, it drove me mental. Only now do I look around and see how much of my life has been neglected over the past two years. I haven't worked (freelance journalism) for almost a year, I haven't exercised or really looked after myself, I haven't given my DD the 100% attention she deserves, my home isn't homely ... the list goes on and on, so it's fantastic to have another focus!

Beautiful D - Best of luck with impending arrival , wow - 10 weeks, that's gone fast! AFM: I'm starting to feel very tired .. but still not too many symptoms. Had another scan today, date says 7w4days and all is looking great. I'm stating to exhale.

Well Af arrived, I spotted for quite alot of days so maybe my progesterone has gone back to its failing ways again as for about 3-4 cycles are my last loss it was no spotting but straight into AF. Again who knows when I did ovulate without charting etc and might have been getting AF very early.

Not upset, not expecting to get pregnant so helps not feel let down I guess.

Raffi - Know what you mean by taking time off study if you fall with subsequent children. I will be doing the same . One of my units this year doesn't have any lectures and doesn't have an exam...... I was a little bit I'm excited, I might get a chance of a HD with this one - I always just miss out and it's usually because I just have brain farts (mental blocks) when it comes to exam time! I can't structure an essay under pressure to save my life.

Haley - I'm in Perth I'm booked in to see a FS, from what I can see she is well experienced. I did originally ask for a referral to my ob but doctor persuaded me to see a specialist instead, she's probably right.

Congratulations Dark Passenger (a fellow Dexter fan I take it )!

Shellby - sorry to hear AF arrived. Even though you aren't expecting it, it's hard not to be disappointed when AF arrives. *hugs*

AFM - Traditionally AF should be making an appearance round this time, I haven't even had any o pains yet. So looks like it's going to be a longer then 2 month cycle this one. Sucks Almost exactly one month til we see the FS.

Wow studymuffin we have lots in common!! I am in Perth too!! I am SOR towards the hills. Which FS are you seeing? I am going to Hollywood. I hope your appointment goes well - is it soon??

Shelby - so sorry to hear that AF arrived - it would have been lovely for you have a surprise - you seem to be dealing with it so well - *hugs*

HaleyW - hope things are still going well!! When is your next scan? Hope you got a EDD yet? (sorry if asked already I am a bit tired tonight!)

AFM - well tomorrow I visit the FS again to go through all the drugs, cost etc for IVF. Although I am secretly hoping we have caught the egg this month as I am pretty sure I O'd on Tuesday as had bad O pains and then some EWCM (sorry TMI!). So even though DH and I went out to the Roxette concert (which was awesome!!) and didn't get home to midnight we BD that night!

Will let u know how I go tomorrow!!

Went well at the FS yesterday - blood tests showed I did actually O this month so hopefully we are lucky this month! But if not I have started the nasal spray for IVf and collected all the injections I will need. It is a bit nerve wracking and I hope I remember how to use the needle pens when the time comes! So now just taking the spray and waiting to see if AF turns up this month. If she does then call FS day 1 and we go from there!

Also went through costs and while it is still expensive it is not quite as bad as I feared! I am just feeling so positive about this all that something good must happen soon! I have not felt so confident or positive about TTC for the past 2 yrs at least!! I just so hope it all works!!

Hope you all have a good weekend!!

Raffi - glad to hear your appointment went well and you have everything you need to start. Maybe you will be lucky like Alice last year who started her cycle for her first round of IVF only to find out she was pregnant.

Hello Ladies,
I trawled through this group last night...Until about 2am! I was mesmerized by your stories! So many like my own and I felt a kinship with all of you.
I thought about all of you today, and myself.
We have been ttc for almost 12 months. I have 2 children from a previous relationship and my husband has 1.
We would more than anything love to have more together (he would love 3 more but I am seriously praying for just ONE right now!)
We have not yet consulted fs or even Drs but I am going to this month see my GP. My first 2 pregnancies were 1st time hit! Same with his! So finding your soul mate and having this much trouble...hurts...bites etc!
I'm due to see af in 5 days. I've had cramps the last few days, quite normal for me at this time.
I hope to chat to you lovely ladies, as I feel like I'm going to go mental if af keeps visiting! DH is wonderful to talk to, but he isn't a woman, feeling like a failure or constantly monitoring his body for signs.

Argh, sorry 1st time here!

Welcome to our group Goldie Belle...thanks for sharing your story. It is really really hard isn't it! How old are your children?
I hope you have some luck soon and if not then you get some answers when you see your doctor. You will find great support here! Look forward to chatting soon!

Goldie Belle - Welcome to the group - I hope your stay is short in a good way I found this group is good as I could finally talk to other women who had kids but now had secondary IF as well as I felt if I complained to someone who didn't have any children they would think I was selfish, and people who haven't had secondary IF really don't know how it feels to once be able to get pregnant without any issues and then just can't.

Hi Girls,

Goldie Belle, welcome. You've found an awesome support network here - if it weren't for these lovely girls I would not have come through this IF with my sanity in tact. Good luck with TTC. I found the first year the hardest to cope with - we tried for 2 yrs before IVF, and was successful on our second attempt - feel very blessed about that.

Raffi - I'm so excited for you and wish more than ever that you're on a BFP this month before IVF. But if not, stay positive - it worked for us and our situations are so similar! Good luck. Don't worry too much about the needles - it gets easier. I had my DH do it, I was too scared, and he hates needles so I'm sure if we can do it you'll be fine!

Shelby - So sorry hun. *hugs*. I was really hoping for you.

Study Muffin - I"m on the other side of the continent, LOL! So no use in recommending my FS unless you enjoy long flights! Good luck! It sounds like you're in good hands. So glad your GP recommended an expert - that's where we went wrong and wasted so many months!

AFM: Have a due date - Oct 5! Still no MS?? So I'm still super nervous about this - which I guess is only natural considering what happened last time. But I'm 9 wks now, so 1 week past when I lost the last one.

Take care all - thinking of you as always.

Aghh sorry - I've fallen behind. Naughty me! Won't let it happen again.

Raffi - Wow we do!! Yes I'm going to Hollywood too, lady FS specialist, probably same one - can you fill me in on what to expect at first appointment? Ours is still 3.5 weeks away. Good news that you O'd by the way. Fingers crossed that you don't have long to wait now!!

Welcome Goldie Belle, sorry to hear that you find yourself in this group. Are you taking the step to get checked out by a FS?

Shellby - That's exactly how I felt, noone to really vent too .... those that were childless and struggling I felt if I vented to them I was just being selfish and self absorbed and if I vented to people that already had a complete family that I was somehow raining on their parade.

HaleyW - ahhh. Hope you have a smooth pregnancy. For the record I had no morning sickness with my son.

AFM - no AF (even in my ultra long cycles it should be here by now!) ... not even any signs of 'o'ing' I usually get strong O pains and lots of EWCM, I'm wondering if it's because I've put on some weight lately it's mucked with my cycles I start back at personal trainer this week so hopefully start to get it off again. Fertility Specialist appointment isn't til end of this month so just waiting for that.

No stress Studymuffin - it happens!! This group seems to go through peaks and lows as to who is in here and when!! Use it as you need to!! But we love chatting to you!! lol!
My goodness - it gets more and more similar!! I am seeing a lady FS too and I think there is only one lady doctor there so no doubt the same one - her initials are Dr J____ B. If she is the same one I have found her to be lovely!! All the nurses there are great too! Basically at your first appointment they take down your history and your DH (so take him too if you can) and then suggest treatment from there. Because we had tried Clomid and other stuff before we were suggested to go straight to IVF but you may have to go through other tests first - be prepared for lots of blood tests! Then you may meet with the nurses who discuss in more detail your treatment and you might meet with accounts who tell you what the gap payments will be for treatment after Medicare rebates. If you have any other questions please ask!! We thought for ages which clinic to go to and were tossing up between HFC and another but decided on this one and so far we are glad we did! Have you been to Hollywood Hospital before? If not there is now a big multi storey carpark at the back which makes parking easier and it is not too expensive then it is just a short walk to main entry.

Shelby - yup I think you have summed this group up perfectly!!

HaleyW - that is so great you are 9 weeks already!! Time flies! When is your next scan - are you having one at 12weeks? I too am hoping like anything that this is THE month and save us going through IVF but at least if it is not then we have a good plan to back it up with instead of going onto another month of unknown!! I am just so excited for you and hope that I can follow in your footsteps!! If I have fallen this month we will only be about a month apart!!! I really hope everything keeps going well for you and don't worry about no MS as I didn't have any with my DD worse I had it was a bit queasy if I didn't eat regularly but certainly not sick or vomiting! Did you have much MS with your DD?

Goldie Belle - hope you are having a good weekend!

Bye for now ladies
xxx

Raffi - We have the same FS!! Glad she is nice. DH will be coming, luckily the appointment seems to fall inbetween trips up north for him (he's based in perth but has to go up north sometimes to review projects). I'm so silly, it took me ages to tell DH when the appointment was and that he had to come with me ... I don't know why, he was totally fine with it of course. My GP ran a series of blood tests which she gave me the results to take to the FS, but I did think that there might be more .... there's always more tests they find to run, evil doctors . Eeek accounts people, that seems quite daunting. Sounds like you are taking out a house loan than IVF treatment. No never been to Hollywood Hospital. Thanks for the directions! I'm sure I'll still manage to get lost. Thank you for all the information. I will let you know how I get on.

Long weekend in the west this weekend, I had to come back from the in laws (3 hours away) a day early I still have uni tomorrow. DH and DS are still down there. It must be the first night in 3 years that I've spent away from them both at the same time.

Thank-you for the warm welcome everyone

I have a DS 8 and a DD 5. This makes people say "oh but you have a pigeon pair! Why worry with trying for more?" Frustrating words. I do think some people speak without considering a lot of the time and having children does make you feel guilty complaining to childless couples!

I (as every month) did a 'first response' test tonight BFN. I wonder how many hundreds of dollars I have spent on them over the last year? I can't help it though, I buy them and can't resist doing it. Even though I just get sad after. 3 days until AF is due.

Just going to the GP to start with. I went on the pill about 18 months ago and then stopped after 6 months. My cycle went from being a normal 28 day cycle to now 23 days off BC. So we get more chances to try but I think something is wrong there.

HaleyW Wonderful news and a very exciting time for you! I wish you all the best and hope we will all be with you soon!

I hope no one has to see AF for the rest of the year

xxx

Goldie Belle - Do you know when you ovulate? Only reason I ask is that your AF is coming on CD23, if you say ovulate on the average CD14, then you only have a 9 day LP - which is not good. Its needs to be at least 10-11 days LP otherwise what happens is the embryo doesn't have time to implant and tell your body 'Hi I'm here and I'm growing into a baby', so instead your body starts AF and if there was a embryo then it is lost with AF.

If your ovulating early though, say CD9 (which some people do) then you would be having 14 day LP, but the chances are if you weren't early ovulating before then you are not now. I have this issue, my LP dies around CD8-9. It is easy to kinda fix - the best thing to do is have your cycle tracked, 3 days after ovulating you have a HCG shot and this will hold your LP out for 10 days, so gives you a total 14 day LP and enough time to implant if you got pregnant that month.

To find out if you have LP defect, I suggest while waiting to see your FS I would start charting once your AF stops, this will then track when you ovulate and then you can see how long your cycle is. Then if your cycle is failing early, then they will do a series BT - basically a BT every 2nd day from 3DPO to 11DPO, this shows your progesterone going up, then sees how long it takes to go down below 15 (15 is the min you need to hold a pregnancy, most doctors prefer over 20 and most FC prefer over 30). It shouldn't go below 15 until after 11DPO, if its falling below that before 11DPO then you have a issue.

Do push for the series if you think you have a LP defect as some will just do the CD21 test, which only shows your peak amount, mine was always prefect, then within 48 hours it would be 8, but because they would only do the one test they didn't know that. I just mention to push for the series as my first FS refused and would only do the CD21 and mine was also fine so he deemed it no issue - I wasted a year with him when he wasn't fixing my issue at all.

My last clinic was very much into LP defects and I did get pregnant with them twice, sadly my first was found before I started treatment (was in the testing stages) and lost it before I could save it, and my second was while on trial so no HCG shot during LP, and by the time I had my progesterone shot my HCG was dropping - however I have a high risk of EP and I had all the signs of one, so it may have been a EP which my body corrected itself and the shot wouldn't have made any difference. But once I was at the right clinic I did see some results even if I didn't end up with a take home baby.

If you want any help with charting, feel free to ask, after 4 years I'm fairly knowledgeable with them.

Also with HPT - buy some off the net. I use to get 40 for about $14. Was great as I could test everyday from 8DPO if I wanted. My last pregnancy beyond what I can't believe was showing a line at 7-8DPO - I thought it was a evap. It shows it implanted early which again goes towards the EP theory.

Hi All,

So I'm 33 years old with an adorable 4 year old......and was going to have a 2 year gap......so as you can tell it didn't go accoding to plan!!!! I am about to start my very first IVF cycle...and freaking out a little ...I would love some insight into others experiences...I know that IVF is my only option as I have damaged and blocked falopean tubes....so here goes i guess

Cheers
Izy Bee

Welcome Izy Bee. I hope your first IVF cycle goes well and you can leave the group quickly IYKWIM Did they find out what damaged your tubes between having your DS and now? Must have been disappointing to find your tubes damaged after getting pregnant once.

Infection after C-section......have had surgery to attempt to unblock.....i guess not so successful ( it was last April). I had been warned that this was very likely. So other than that everything else is A ok.....DH is all good....My O is like clockwork....and I can carry a baby to term....So in therory it should be straight forward.....Therory is all good....but i'm not pregnant so we'll see

Izy Bee - welcome to the group, sorry you are in here but hopefully the first round of IVF is a success! Ah yes the two year gap, that was supposed to happen for me too!

Well another friend has announced she's pregnant with her third. I wanna know who does one have to sleep with around here to get pregnant again! *jk* Anyway I will just have to go have another glass of wine to celebrate yet another pregnancy.

Hi girls,
Welcome Izy Bee! Good luck with your IVF. After TTC 2 years with my second we finally got our BFP on our second round of IVF in January. Hoping very much that it works for you first time though. It wasn't quite as stressful as I was expecting - the needles weren't even that bad. The worst part for me was the 2ww, unbearable during a natural cycle, but times that by 10 for IVF! Lol! Any questions please ask.

Study Muffin - so sorry hun, that's such a blow to hear about yet another friend's pregnancy. It used to always hit me like a punch in the stomach and then I'd just feel so angry all the time. Just keep thinking your time will come - hard as that can be!

Golden Belle - re: pigeon pair : some people are just so insensitive and it's something that was really highlighted to me during infertility. It's like almost everyone in your life becomes an emotionally void imbecile! Lol!

Raffi - how's it going? Any news? I have my fingers crossed for you! You hear about so many people getting their BFP before IVF - like two in this group! I have my next scan in a week (10 wks) so starting to get a bit nervous again. But, today I felt sick in the morning and then all day until I had something to eat! Yay, so excited to be feeling it now - finally! Good luck. Thinking of you.

Hi Everyone,

I went to the GP yday and got my 1st lot of blood tests underway. I went on day 21 by complete accident! Usually Dr is hard to get into, so I was thinking I'd call and wait two weeks but he had an app that day. Next lot of bloods on AF day 1....DH has tadpole count test next week.

Thank-you Shellby, I wld very much appreciate any help/advice you have to give as this is all so overwhelming and really not where I thought we wld be! Thank you too for telling me about HPT over the net! I buy so much on here but didn't even think!! I'm obsessed with doing them. Quite bloody depressing really lol.

StudyMuffin- I had the same happen to me yday!! 12 weeks and I'm trying not to cry! I really hope I'm not turning into a bitter bi*ch

Haley- Haha yes you are so right! Thank-you for giving me a good giggle with your analogy lol. I really look forward to hearing your updates! Scans are really something to look forward to! I hope the sickness keeps up (in a good way) as it really is a comforting sign xxx

Izy Bee-Hi! Good luck with IVF, You sound like a perfect candidate!

Af due Thursday...Meh...sick of it.

so.tomorrow is the ivf nurse interveiw..thank goodness mum is comming, my DH has to work, so im a bundle of nerves....this has been a big journey to get to this point!!! my DD asked today when i would be picking up her new baby, she is so ready to be a big sister!!!!

Welcome Izy Bee - hope you stay is nice and short because you get your BFP soon! I too am starting on IVF and had that very same interview just last Friday with FS where I got all the injections etc!! Good luck for tomorrow!! We can compare drugs! lol!!

Goldie Belle - wow maybe that is a good sign re the doctor! Hope your blood tests all come back ok!! Hope your DH tadpoles are all ok too!!

HaleyW - how exciting your next scan is not far away!!! Hope it all goes well and shoes bub resting in there nicely!! Hope the sickness isn't too bad for you...but comforting all the same!!

Shelby - hope you are doing ok and thanks as always for your lovely wealth of knowledge!! Hope all is ok with your DS too!

Studymuffin - ouch that really hurts doesn't it...I feel for you as I feel exactly the same way... there is nothing to say that will ease the pain, except that hopefully it WILL be your turn very soon!! I am so pathetic that I daydream about how I will announce my pregnancy to everyone...like to my parents, family - on Facebook to friends etc! How lame is that hey!! lol!! Hope you feel better soon. xx

Well AFM just the waiting game at the moment...if I did O when I thought which was last Tuesday it means I am approx 7DPO...have no feelings or signs of any pregnancy as yet so not holding hope but know that it is early days yet really! DH is going tomorrow morning to have his 'boys' tested so hopefully that all goes back ok. So just waiting, waiting, waiting!!

Hi ladies

I never dreamed I would be here....but here I am so wanted to introduce myself. I am in the TTC#2 buddy group and will stay there because I know everyone but also wanted to join here because you will all know what I'm going through and can maybe help me with where to go next.

I've just turned 32 a few months ago, and had my beautiful DD at age 30. I had only known DP a year when I HAD to start trying for a baby which seemed a little premature since he was recently divorced and we'd only been together a year, maybe it was my body telling me this was my fate. DD was conceived 3rd month of trying, easy. When she was about 14 months we started trying for #2 and that was 12 months ago. I tried the naturopath after 6 months but she will filling me with tablets and didn't know what the problem was.

I've just been through the FS tests and I have an AMH of 2.5 and an FSH of 22 this month. They are not off the charts but they are hard to get pregnant with. I can't believe this happened to me at age 32, I've never smoked, I'm not overweight, don't eat meat, I exercise, follow all the health guidelines and yet my ovaries pack up now. I'm glad I at least know what I'm dealing with now.

I've just done a clomid cycle where I grew 5 good follies, 2 were more mature than the rest so I had a trigger shot so that I would only ovulate 2 mature ones and the rest wouldn't be able to fertilise. I think that's a good sign that I responded to the clomid. I'm 4dpo now but not hopeful, just wondering where to go from here, IUI, IVF or down the Chinese doctor route. I believe a better diet can help but then am I wasting time when I should be getting on the hard stuff?

I used to get so stressed that DP wouldn't agree to a third child because he already has 2. What a joke, he agreed to a third and I'm going to be lucky to get a second at this rate. I got another kick in the guts when I logged on to FB last night, a girl that wished she never had her 1st one because of loss of freedom, and she got PND, then got pg by accident and just had her baby. Why can't this happen to people that don't want more babies? Anyway, I'm sure you all go through this in your heads already, thanks for reading if you got this far. Hope to get to know you all and we're all outta here sooner rather than later.

well, needles not so scary...check...start them on the 22nd of this month....so all going well some embies in early April!!!! So all i can do is will those follies to grow, and make DH swimmers swim...and hatch myself some good looking babies:) Well its all good in theory!!

raffi06 i too would love to announce my pregnancy..and even know the type of pram i want...pathetic:(

Goldie Belle - When do you get the results of the blood tests?

IzzyBee - Glad your mum could be there for you and the needles aren't so scary. Fingers crossed for your BFP

Raffi - So any symptoms? Only early days ... my fingers are crossed.

Bellefin - Welcome! Thank you for sharing your story. Yes I feel like that all the time Doesn't feel fair that I have to watch my weight, exercise, seek help all in order to fall pregnant but there's some out there who abuse their body something chronic who just seem to be able to pump them out. Feeling like this is part of the course though. What does your FS advise the next course of action should be? Fingers crossed for a BFP this month.

AFM - 20 more days to FS appointment. AF is still MIA, even the usual O pains still haven't occurred .... it's going to be a loooooooong cycle by the looks of things. Knowing my luck, O is probably waiting to DH goes up north to happen.

Hi Everyone!! Hope you all had a good week!!

Studymuffin - not toooo long to see the FS - hope you have some O signs soon!! FX for you!!

Izy Bee - it seems we are almost in sync!! I am just behind you!! It is so not pathetic about the pram!! I know exactly the type of car seat I want this time for our main (my) car!! I think it is the benefit of having been there before and having learnt a lot along the way!! What kind of pram do you have your eye on?

Bellefin - welcome to our group - I hope your stay is short in the nicest way! I am 32 too and also didn't think I would ever be here - it is not a very nice feeling is it! It sounds like you have tried alot - has your DH been tested too just to make sure everything is still ok on his side? I know for me, I decided that at 32 time was slipping past and if I/we were going to do IVF then I wanted to do it while I was still young and not fluff around for another few years trying things that may not work or that didn't have as higher chance as IVF. But it is a very hard decision and I think you really need to be comfortable with it - we did consider IUI but in the end decided to just go straight to IVF. Good luck on what you decide I totally understand what you are saying about people falling pregnant who maybe shouldn't - hugs.

Hope everyone else is going ok!!

As for me...well I am currently on CD30 today and roughly 10DPO - no signs at all yet so not holding my breath and just waiting for the inevitable really. Good news is though that DH results came back all ok today so it really is me that is the problem! While I know we DTD at exactly the right time this month I am not expecting much as we couldn't have been missing the mark for the past 3 yrs every month!!

It's going to be a stinking hot weekend here in Perth so will be trying to keep cool - although we have my nieces birthday in Kings Park tomorrow at lunch so that is going to be warm!!

Hope everyone has a good weekend though!

Izy Bee - Glad to hear your appointment went well and you have a start date - must be very exciting for you

Goldie Belle - One thing to be careful of with the CD21 test - its to be done 7DPO, they say CD21 as they would on the average 28 day cycle. Eg If you ovulate say CD16 then you would be having the test to early and would have it on CD23 at 7DPO. For your first its a good starting point, but I really recommend charting so for the future you know when you ovulate so BT can be done at the right times as a day or two out either side can really affect what your results could be or what they should be. You will find you will have a heap of BT from the FS and they all have their own times to be taken. Hope the time flies between now and when you see your FS - I always hated that wait as I want to start something now.

Raffi - Glad to hear your DH is fine. It was nice when we knew for certain DH was all good, but then it made me feel sad also knowing its 'my' fault we couldn't have another baby. DH of course kept reminding me we are a team and its 'us' that have a problem not one or the other.

Well its looking like another early ovation this month compared to my CD20, I'm on CD15 and yesterday started my acne and very fertile CM, still have my CM so I'm going to guess I ovulate tomorrow on CD16 due to how long I normally have EWCM and the acne is normally here in the 48 hours leading up.

in response to the pram....steel craft agile...otherwise just counting down until.injection day....11days til they start....so day zero is the 20th...eek...i have been waiting so long..and now its going to begin

Izy Bee - my Dh likes the steelcraft agile also he likes how you can use the capsule and using the hood of the capsule and the pram you can cover the baby completely (but still see it through the peek hole) and people can't go playing with your newborn.

Well I think I may have ovulated today - my CM dried up, but want got me thinking was I had these horrible cramps. I don't normally get cramps at all with ovulation, but today was like these pulling cramps down low, so thought maybe that is what some people talk about ovulation cramps, and the timing fits with my CM drying up and acne starting to go. Guess we will find out in about 14 days.

IzyBee - Oh YES the Steelcraft Agile looks a lovely pram!! What colour would you like? I still have DD pram from when she was a baby - it is the Steelcraft Enigma (like the Acclaim) and since I only used it for about 6mths before I got a stroller I feel like I should give it some more use when the time comes - even though I do like some of the new prams out including the Agile! Good luck with the injections I am so scared about them!

Shelby - sounds like you are in O to me...fingers crossed that it is a good result in 2 weeks for you!

Well as for me...feeling a little all over the place today...am CD33 and approx 13DPO and have been feeling really bloated and heavy the past few days and was hoping it was early pregnancy symptoms but then today I am just feeling so tired and down - I could cry right now - as I have read and my clinic told me that the nasal spray (Synaral) can delay AF for a few days - so highly doubt I am pregnant and it is probably just AF being mucked around by the nasal spray. Just the thought that I knew when I O'd this month and we DTD at exactly the right time and we are still not successful is almost too much....I know we are about to start IVF but to not have to go through all of that would be so nice...I know I should just stop sounding ungrateful and stay positive but just today it all seems to much...plus I have got uni assignments coming up and just have zero motivation in attempting to start them.

I am so sorry that this post is mostly about me...I just feel so down about it all and wish it was easier (for all of us in here). I hate this waiting and unknown.

I really hope you are all having a better day.

How are you going HaleyW, Studymuffin, Bellefin, Goldie Belle??

xx

shelby, i do ovulate natually, and i can tell which side, because i get sharp low pain on which ever side it is...which was 5 times worse when i did chlomid...also when i was on chlomid, we did ultrasounds which confirmed my feelings were spot on!!!! bloody blocked tubes just stopped the swimmers!

on the subject of prams..i like the beige one....i still have a pram...a phil and ted, with toddlers 2nd seat...wishfull thinking, as if i was to have a sucessful ivf round my toddler would be five!LOL!!!