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Ali

Gold yay first time

2WW

(testing date in brackets)

Bronze for me!

Katie, would you mind moving me to taking time out?
Hope your surgery was ok

I'll claim Silver

Hope everyone is having a good day. Please post here or PM me if you want to be added to the list or have your status changed.

Thanks seaside. Surgery went well, hopefully it will start to make diference soon. Where the cannula went in still really hurts though!

Unfortunately AF arrived 2-3 days late last night . As I'm rarely late and had been feeling and just really off, I was hopeful. I could see DH was trying not to get his hopes up and when AF hadnt arrived yesterday evening, he was so pleased, poor thing.

Thanks for doing the list Katie! Sorry to hear that Af arrived. Hope your looking after yourself hun xx

No time for personals today but just a quick rant!
The other day DP came home and announced that one of his work mates wives is pregnant with their second baby. I knew they were ttc and they literally got pregnant in the first cycle. I'm trying really hard to be happy for them but I just feel so jealous! Then that makes me feel guilty and I get really emotional. I guess I'm just really frustrated that I haven't even had a regular cycle yet. In 4 1/2 months I've had 2 cycles, which means only 2 chances to get pregnant, I really hope if I don't get a BFP this cycle that hopefully it's not 55+ days long.

Rant over lol

Hi ladies,

Still in limbo land .... AF is 1 month & 3 days late and still getting BFNs. Feeling rather ordinary today - big headache & feeling a bit off in my tummy so hopefully its a sign of some answers to come.

FX'd for everyone!

Thinking of those lovely ladies who have suffered recent losses my heart broke after reading your news...

not to be insensitive but Katie11 could you please move me to 2ww... fingers crossed

and a big congrats to N@ K for your BFP!!!

ok im attempting my chart again FX i workrd it ou this time

My Ovulation Chart

Katie can you move me to 2ww?

Nadia... have you selected the charts to be displayed?
FF- view your charts then on the "sharing" tab click on setup and on the bottom of that page it says "published charts" and you have to select the one you want to select.. ALso ON the middle of that page under "privacy" you want to select automatic update so as soon as you put something in we will all see it.. hope that will fix it
be back in a bit for personals...

N@K - congratulations on your BFP...that's such wonderful news and such an awesome birthday pressent!! Fingers crossed its an unevenful 9 months ahead for you.

Seaside - Wow flight booked. I bed you're so excited now and can't wait to head off. Such an exciting trip...wish it was me!!

Katie11 - very happy to hear your surgery went well. Sorry to hear about AF arriving though. Can you please move me into the 2WW...will be testing tomorrow if AF fails to arrive today.

AFM...AF is due today but no sign so far. I'm still feeling bloated and have been feeling a bit horrible in the afternoon/evenings but I've been like this for almost a week now. I guess I won't let myself believe I could be pregnant until I see 2 lines on a test but am not testing today. Will see what tomorrow brings...if no AF by tomorrow night I will then POAS. I know FMU is best but I won't be home tomorrow morning to do it first thing...prefer to wait until I'm in my own house with just DF and I.

So a question for you all. Just had a conversation with DF about babies etc and the topic turned to circumcision. I told him I'm against it and think its not necessary and to my surprise he said he believes it's best to have it done. We didn't continue the conversation as he had to head to work but I wonder if this might become an issue and how we might resolve it if we can't come to see eye to eye??? Seems like a very difficult one!!

Hi Katie,

Can you please move me to the 2ww, fertility friend confirmed I have O at day 9 which means I will have roughly a 21-23 day cycle ... last cycle was day 34 days with O on day 20 ... Not impressed with my ovaries lack of organisation here!!

Will post properly tonight, hope you are all enjoying your Friday!

x x

thanks

can some try now


My Ovulation Chart

works fine now!

thanks
now everyone can stalk me more lol

just some quick personals

Johanna oh no!!! I saw your charts last night. sorry! when Are you seeing your witch doctor next? maybe thet need to adjust those herbs a bit more...
As you can see from my chart I am still building my staircase... it is becoming a little weird now well at least 6 more days until testing for me...

seaside.. again yay!!!! for booking nepal tickets... so when Are you leaving??? How freaking cold is it gonna be over there? can you actually go for hikes without being burried under tons of snow?

nadia yay for FF... and finally getting that chart in your signature... good luck and yes don't obsess over it..

baby dreaming... that is one drastic change!!! can you maybe link your chart... did you have all the O signs or is it just FF calling it?

Chili... is your partner circumcised? I think that plays a big role... PPM is not and while I find circumcised looks better I can't say anything about health benefits and don;t see the point really... people lived without it for centuries *except in certain religions).. but that is a really though one!!! good luck and sorry I could be of more help..

biapb... hehe the month I fell PPM and I were soooo disorganized we only BD once in the fertile window and a little more CD8-10 and during 2ww but we still managed to get pg from that single one... all it takes is one time... and your charts looks fantastic!!!

Congrats Taurus again... good luck for the journey ahead and thanks for your thoughs on my charts... will see what the staircase turns into

Cams your trip to the great Ocean road sounds great!! hope you find some nice accommodations... and yay for adventures and exercise rolled into one

sorry for everyone I missed...

afm... 2ww and nothing exciting to report

Hi all

yah yah its friday!!!!

katie could you please move me to waiting to O. Thanks. sorry to here AF arrived. Poor DH. I know what you mean, my last cycle stretched out by an extra 2-3 days and DH was almost unable to hide his elation from the rest of our friends/family we were camping with(New Years) and i had to keep taking him aside and calming him down and telling him i didn't feel like i was PG. He started doing nice things like making dinner so i could rest and giving me shoulder massages (very unusual for my DH, both cooking and massages) so on new years day when the witch arrived he was so bumbed and everyone kept asking him what was wrong, but he couldn't tell anyone.

chillidog circumcision yah thats a tricky one isn't it. My DH believies in it as his parents did etc etc but my side of the family don't beleive in it and see it as mutilation. we have dealt with it by not discussing it and secretly hoping we get girls so that its never an issue. childish i know. There is a lot of medical information on it though these days, so my plan is to just leave sleeping dogs lie for now and if we were to end up with a baby boy then go and see a pediatrician for their advice and take it from there. i'm not going to make it a deal breaker with my DH or anything but its something that he will have to get a medical professional to sway my mind on not just him. thats all the advice i have sorry to say, but i know where you are coming from.

Nadia good luck with charting. you seem to have the patients i lack to get FF working right. i started and then gave up as it took me longer than 5 minutes to try and work it out. i hope it works out for you though. I really should give it another shot since i did set myself a New Years deadline to start temping if nothing had happened by then. I think i am procrastinating.

also congrats on getting the house you applied for.

MrsRoo do our DH's work for the same boss? ha ha. sorry i have the same issue, but his bosses wife is about to have the baby in 2 months and we started TTC at the same time. sorry for the ha ha but i am starting to get to the point with all the women falling PG around me at the moment where if i don't laugh i will cry.

1babyplease jeepers!! thats all i can think of to say about your 1 month and 3 day past AF issue. maybe go see a doctor for some blood tests??

N @K congratulations. FX for you that it all works out.

ABTTC & vanilla sorry that i have not posted to you before now. I am so saddened by your loss. i just couldn't think of what i could write to convey what i wanted to say. so what i want to say right now is thank you for sharing so much of your journey with us. I know nothing i can say will help but i want you to know that by sharing your journey with us it will help those of us in the future who might have to follow the same path. allowing us to understand how you are feeling means that if we have to follow that journey as well we will be better able to understand and cope. it must be very hard to write/speak about and your strength is very much appreciated.

Cams wow hoo to hubby being home soon. hope you have a great time on the short break you have planned. make sure you pack a camera, my mum and dad went down and did the great ocean road last year and boy did they get some great shots.

Seaside Nepal, well that should keep you occupied over the next couple of months. I am very jealous, it's on my list of places i want to visit one day.

Johannasweet well that just sucks. stupid cycles and stupid AF and why not stupid work as well. I love having a good whinge when AF arrives with nasty cramps. I hope you are feeling a bit better now.

BIABP hmmmmmm alternatives to EPS. here goes:
sore boobs - a Formosan Rock Macaque was sitting on you during sleep.
exhaustion - you work with kids who speak a different language. not sure this one
needs anything else as that would sure exhaust me.
nausea - the Formosan Rock Macaque was full so fed you his left over food and you were
so exhausted from the kids at school you didn't notice.

AFM well boring boring boring. nothing exciting just waiting for O time in terms of TTC for now. am looking forward to free time tomorrow which means shopping. yah. i have a heap of gift cards from our engagement party, wedding and now xmas last year so can spend up without breaking the bank.

DH and i had a discussion about how over the last few months when ever fertile time arrives we become so busy that we hardly fit BDing in. so this cycle we have worked out our fertile dates, put them on the calendar and marked it as busy and DH will tell his work that he has family committments that few days and can't work any overtime and we are telling family/friends that we have work commitments that are going to cause overtime so can't do anything with them either. so hopefully we will get plenty of peace and quiet time at home to ourselves.

Thanks poppy x

Have got myself a bit stressed out, I'm crampy again, and stupidly tested hoping to see a negative, but it's still a strong positive. So I'm worried that my bhcg has either increased, or remained the same. It was only 80 on Monday, it should have fallen by now.

I'm terrified of needing some kind of management.

If its ectopic, methotrexate requires a year off TTC, having a tube removed means time off as well plus obviously, the loss of a tube which is a problem in itself.

And even if it's just retained products, I'm scared of a d&c.

I want this to be over now. I want to go back to TTC with no worries, it was much better than ectopic, no ectopic. And now all I desperately want to see is a bloody bfn, no more bfp's until I try again.

Stupid body.

Katie can I please be moved to 2WW (groan)

Chillidog : circumcision thankfully is not going to be an issue for DH and I. He's not done so bubs won't be either. I think all the medical issues are kinda nil and void now with the advances in hygiene.

poppy: hahaha I love your non-EPS ideas for biabp. Good luck getting your quiet time for O.

AFM: My boss has recently quit at work and a replacement doesn't start for another 2 weeks so today was my last full day off before I work 8days straight. I'm tired just thinking about it. I spent today packing boxes to move (only 5weeks now) and I visited a friend who is about 2weeks off having her 2nd bub.

Question: how much do you guys think weight affects TTC? It's just someone suggested that I may need to put on weight. I'm about 55kg and 174cm tall so technically my BMI is low but I've always been thin and I eat 3meals a day and snack and certainly eat plenty of chocolate I'm just not sure where to go next with TTC. I'm under 30, I ovulate, I get reg periods, DHs swimmers came back fine after his SA, I use preseed, I try missionary and doggy, I lie down for 20mins after BD, I take blackmores conceive well gold, I drink green tea to increase CM, I've tried eating the alkaline foods and nuts & pumpkin seeds, I don't drink alcohol and I don't smoke (and never have). I just want it to happen all ready, I want it to be my turn. That was a bit of a rant, but what do u think about the weight? How much do I need to put on and how do I do it?

oh Vanilla, So sorry... are you still bleeding? I think it can take quite a while to pass everything naturally... as for hcg levels... It took three weeks after my d&c for my levels to drop to zero...I think good test pick up levels from 15-25 or higher... there is no harm in getting monitored by your GP and if it is only to see your levels falls via blood test results (weekly, it helped me...) hoping that the nightmare is over soon and you have some time to come to terms with in and move on... I hope everything will just go naturally but if a D&C should be necessary in the future feel free to PM me...

Hi Katie11,

I have noticed that my name is still on the list in "taking time out" can you please take me off the list as I got a BFP and am almost 9 weeks PG now!

I'm crossing my fingers it will be a sticky as I had a M/C back in September.

Sending you all some sticky vibes, lots of new faces in here!

Hi All Lots of reading to catch up on today!

Well first thing is: CONGRATULATIONS to you N@K ! What a wonderful birthday present! All the best for your pregnancy.

Cams - well I am just back from a Great Ocean Road trip myself! We had a really nice time, stayed 2 nights in Apollo Bay. I don't really have any accommodation recommendations though, we stayed in the cheapest hotel I could find. Make sure you see the 12 Apostles and Loch Ard Gorge (but I'm sure those are already on your list!). We also really enjoyed the Otways rainforest treetop walk. They have a zip line tour of the rainforest as well which looked really cool but if you want to do it, make sure you book in advance.

Johanna - Sorry AF has arrived and that your cycle seems to be out of whack. Maybe your body is getting used to the herbs? maybe some chocolate and some retail therapy is in order.

Katie - Boo to AF! But good that your surgery went well. Can you please move me to 'waiting to o'

Seaside - Yay! Congrats on booking your trip. Sounds like it will be quite an adventure!

Chillidog - Well I haven't had that conversation with DP, let's hope we are both in agreeance! One of my friends was against the idea of circumcision, and her husband was for it, but once their son was born, he changed his mind beacause he didn't want anyone needlessly cutting his beautiful boy. Maybe your DH will have a similar change of heart

BIABP - Nope, not doing it! I know you are only trying not to get your hopes up, but let's not forget about positive thinking . I hope they are EPS for real!

Poppy - yes, I try not to book too much in for 'o week' either, what could be more important than making a baby

hugs and baby dust to all xx

Vanilla - hugs to you. I wish I had some useful advice to give you , but I really don't know anything about m/c. I hope everything turns out OK

Thanks girls.

Super fruity, still bleeding on and off, woke up with non, then had a small bright loss for one loo break, now back to scant red/brown. Cramping a bit again too, and my boobs hurt.

I really think the level is the same or more, if I just knew it was ectopic or not, I would change my outlook, because if it's in my uterus, I would just stay calm.

Think I'll go for bloods on Monday if I still feel the same. I hate this. It all just sucks.

Maybe have a good read of the ep section in mc. They say bleeding is a really rusty brown color. Good luck and fx. Don't hesitate going to the hospital if the pain gets bad. Better safe than sorry

Hi All!
Happy New Year and Happy Friday!!!
Sorry I have been a bit quiet lately, but since this is the first time I have been involved in an online forum I’m not very good at it
N@K - Congratulations on your BFP!!! I am sending you loads of positive vibes!!! Enjoy every minute!!
1BabyPlease – Wow 1 month and 3 days??? Is this normal for you? If not I would definitely see your doctor as PoppyM suggested.
Mrs Roo – I know what you mean about feeling jealous at other peoples good news! I have had 5 very close friends and 4 work mates that have gotten UTD in the last 12 months. Don’t get me wrong I am very happy for all of them but everytime another one told me their great news I got a bit cut up inside and then felt like a horrible person! I think the best thing to do is acknowledge your feelings otherwise they will eat away at you.
Seaside – Congratulations on booking your Napal trip. My friend went there for trekking back in June and she loved it!! She said it was an experience of a life time and even had a ‘home stay’ with a local family and tried guineapig. She said it was ok but would never tell her sister-in-law because she has about 6 guineapigs as pets…
ABTTC and Vanilla – I am so very sorry for your loss! I know words wont make it better but you are both in my thoughts! When my friend lost her little one at 9 weeks she was devastated. She ended up writing a letter to her angel and then burning it. Her and her husband went to their favourite lookout at the beach and sprinkled the ashes. She said it really helped them. I hope you both find your own way to greave and get through this difficult time. My thoughts and prayers are with you both.
AFM – I’m on the two-week wait again but this time it’s not so bad. Last month I was getting way too obsessed and it was all turning into a big science experiment. So this month I haven’t been tracking my temps or using OPK and have just been having fun with DH. The BDing has been absolutely amazing!!! So I will keep my fingers crossed for a happy little surprise but if this is not my month then that is ok too, because I am just loving how close DH and I are getting! It is amazing that even after 12 years with someone, every now and then you can see them in a completely different light and you can still find out new things about them!!!! Absolutely loving it!!!
I hope everyone has a wonderful weekend!!

Hi Ladies!

I hope it's much better weather where you are than it is in rainy, windy, overcast and miserable Taiwan today!

nadia - i see you changed your name! And congrats on getting FF up and going! It can be a bit confusing at the beginning, but it soon becomes addictive!

ABTTC - how are you doing hun? any word on the possible Ectopic yet? I'm crossing everything for you it's not!

taurusttc - soooo glad to hear everything is going well for you!! Have you been given a date yet??
And yes, 1 bra! I do have 4 bikini tops that I rotate with it though!! I just find bras soo restrictive!
And I do agree, the no Christmas break thing has really exhausted me I think, especially because we had friends staying for over a month during that time too and now we are puppy-sitting an extra dog aswell.. Pretty tired..

cams - Yep. definitely going with exhaustion being the most probable reason!! How exciting for your camping trip along the Great Ocean Road! I've always wanted to go there! It sounds so beautiful! If you're having trouble fnding accomodation, why not think of renting a campervan? Lots of privacy then!! After your not so relaxing New years it sounds like you really need the break aswell! Bet you can't wait to have DP back! Here's hoping AF makes a swift departure! I really can't believe how fast it has gone since your DP went away!
And that's really really really good news about your friend aswell. I hope the next bub sticks for her.

seaside - I also used to use period tracker but apparently i O nowhere near where I thought I did, so it didn't really help me much.. As a temper, I find FF much easier to use now - it confused and stressed me to no ends at the beginning!!
I know I have already said this, but I am just SOOOOO excited about Nepal for you!! Are you much of a hiker? If you are there sounds like there are some amazing trails to explore! Even if you're not, it just sounds so beautiful!
I LOVE your explanations for my symptoms hun! I'm actually huddled in front of the heater with a hot chocolate as we speak and about to take the dogs downstairs for the toilet so it's a definite possibility!
No, they really don't sound like EPS at all! Nope, there are perfectly logical explanations for each and every one of them.. There are! Really! truly...

Katie11 - Glad to hear your surgery went well hun!! I hope the canula pain goes away soon, and that AF leaves quickly so you can start the next cycle. BTW, did the hospital do any tests or anything when you told them you could be PG?

annabee - Limbo land again?? You must be single-handedly keeping cadbury's afloat!! lol! No but really I hope either AF comes, or that second line does for you soon - it must be so stressful.
i've also thought about trying to cut gluten out but it really is just so hard isn't it! I was also looking into trying to cut sugar out of my diet, but seriously, it's in absolutely EVERYTHING!! Like literally everything!! So I gave up..
It sounds like for you it might be worth trying to cut back on the gluten a bit atleast and see if you feel any better from it? Or maybe try to avoid gluten during your fertile phase? Just a thought.

johanna - no, they really aren't EPS! Didn't you hear, a Formosan Rock Macaque sat on me while I was sleeping! That's all! Truly!....lol! (thanks Poppy)
Sorry to hear about AF arriving hun.. For a bit of positive news though, my first full cycle after starting herbs and acupuncture was my shortest luteal phase ever aswell. I was absolutely guttered and in true obsessive fashion put Mr Google to work and apparently it's completely normal - some fertility clinics even say it is to be expected!! Apparently (but don't quote me) Oestrogen is the first hormone the herbs help - hence the lovely pre-O temps and stability, but it takes a couple of cycles for the Progesterone levels to balance out. So I know it's frustrating and devastating, but I still do think your chart is looking much better and healthier!! Just think how much prettier next months chart will be!! Especially with that high temp that doesn't drop for 9 months after that!?!?!

Mrs Roo - Oh hun, That must be sooo hard!! Especially with your cycle still being all haywire.. Have you thought about asking your doctor for a blood test to check if you are atleast O'ing at a normal time or not? hugs to you!

vanilla - how are you doing hun? did you end up getting that blood test or has the bleeding stopped now completely? I hope you are doing okay! I'm hoping like crazy it's not ectopic for you!! hugs to you!

1babyplease - wow.. wow.. wow.. 1month and 3 days late??!! wow.. Sorry if you have already answered this somewhere, but have you been to the doctors for blood tests to see what's going on?

meg - your weight sounds fine to me hun! I am also in the borderline "underweight" BMI but am completely healthy aswell. If you feel you are lacking in protein maybe you could try taking some supplements? That really helped me actually develop some muscle tone instead of just being sticks and bones!

chillidog - Hoping AF stays away for you!!
RE circumcision - I don't really have a preference. To be honest I don't know if i've ever been with anybody who isn't? Mr Man has said he would definitely get it done if we had a boy for hygiene reasons, so I guess, he probably knows more about that than I do. Although, if we do ever end up having a boy I will be most definitely doing ALOT of research before we make a final decision.

babydreaming - I would also love to see your chart!

superfruity - "building the staircase to heaven~~"" lol.. It is just so rythmic! I love it! It truly makes me smile!! It's hard to tell just from the chart but is it dropping the same amount each time? "la la la la la" And as I said to Johanna above, no EPS here.. Nope, none at all!

poppy - Just how did you know about the Formosan Rock Macaque breaking into our room and force-feeding me his leftover food while I was sleeping!! I hadn't even put the two of them together until now, but you are right! That is 100% absolutely the reason!! Thanks!!
lol! I'm laughing so hard right now! LOVE IT!
Yay for free shopping!! Wahoo!! What are you going to buy?
And wow! Your DH must be the most committed to TTC DH there ever was if he is happy to have a calendar marked and cancel all appointments during that time! WoW!! Sounds promising for next cycle!!


So ladies, its raining and cold and miserable over here. Today Mr man, our flatmate and I went to get our Taiwanese scooter licenses!! Mr Man failed the written test and was OHHH SOOO p*ssed off! Then our flatmate and I who passed the written both failed the practical!!! LOL!! So we all took time off work to all fail!! And now we have to go back next Friday to do it all again!! Oh and did I mention that it's rainy and cold here?

Well temp rose again today to 37.20. I think it's most likely just because I'm still feeling sick. I had a slight fever during the day yesterday of 37.44 but it had gone by the time I went to bed so who knows! I just wish my dogs would stop jumping on my boobs!! OMG - they just hurt SOOO much!!

Well after having no time off over christmas I have a 5day weekend this week - however, I'm booked solid! I will be lucky to have 2 hours of down time! With bday parties, engagement parties, extra winter camp work i've been offered, it's just crazy!! And all I really want to do is sleep! I'm just exhausted..

And for those of you who expressed horror at my bra situation - I do have 4 other bikini tops that I alternate with. I find bras really restrictive (but warmer in winter).. I'm looking to buy a new one at the weekend though. The lingerie shop here is called "The Easy Shop"!! lol! I'll take a photo of it and post it on my long-neglected blog!

Anyway on that note, have a wonderful first weekend of 2012 dear ladies! hugs to you all!

Lots of people posting at the same time as me:

vanilla - How would they check if it was ectopic? Would it be by ultrasound? It sounds like it is really playing on your mind so surely it can't hurt to see your GP and get a scan done? Even if it's just for peace of mind??

jo1313 - That's great that you and your DH are really bonding through BD!! Mr Man is going through another "it feels like a chore" phase, although i'm sure he will be passed that again soon. Fingers crossed for this month for you!

I feel so terrible for those that have lost.

Well AFM ... 1 month & 3 days late and I really don't know what to think. I had a blood test at 2 weeks late & it was negative. Doc told me to wait until my next due date to see what happens. I really should make another appointment but I guess I'm scared of something being wrong.

From reading different things on here, some women don't get BFPs until 6/7 weeks or they never get a + and need to have an ultrasound.

This last month I've felt like I needed my own buddy group

Johanna - Sorry to hear about AF hun *hugs*
DAHL YUM!!! Love dahl Yes please send me any recipes you have always willing for get others to do the hard part



Vanilla - I did a HPT yesterday and it was negative so I am fairly sure I am not pregnant. It's annoying and I want to scream out some choice swears but am holding my tongue at the moment
Enjoy your boobs make good use of them before they go



babyinabackpack - I have been in limbo land for so long now I don't remember being anywhere else I am currently CD99, I am not stressed and am free to BD whenever I please (or DP is willing hehe) and yet my cycle is poo. I am just gonna keep cruising through until I get enough money to go see a FS.
My sister is also making me do a 12 week training and fitness thing so that I can lose weight and get healthier so hopefully that will help too



1babyplease - As I said above... I am CD99 now so don't stress too much about being 1mth and 3days late Stressing doesn't help the body regulate so just be calm and see your doctor. Then, if it isn't the news you are hoping for, they can help you get on the right path to go forward. There is no need to be scared about seeing your GP they can only help.

Superfruity - accommodation is now booked!!! yay can't wait. one place i found that I like we then thought was booked out but DH emailed them and there was one apartment left. Looking forward to that night, the place looks gorgeous. I so badly need the exercise so I'm looking forward to it. Will be getting back to our Switzerland experience last year, lots of hiking and sightseeing in one!!

Poppy - Yep very excited about DH getting home. Now to get the house clean beforehand!! Will definitely be packing our camera, bought a fancy one before going to Europe last year and got some amazing pics there. Definitely looking forward to spending time with him, just the two of us.
I'm also waiting to O, I'm just wondering when it will be this time, hoping a couple days earlier than last cycle (CD19). Yay for shopping without spending anything. Hope you find lots of fantastic things and extra good bargains to make the gift cards go further.
Great idea bout telling everyone you're busy with work/family commitments to make sure you get your BD time.

Vanilla - thinking of you and hoping your body sorts it self out ASAP. When are you next due at the Drs for a check up?

Meg - boo to working 8 days straight. Hope it goes well and its not too stressful/tiring an experience.
If you're worried about your weight, perhaps you could go to a gym or nutritionist about wanting to put on a look extra healthy weight. Has your doctor expressed any concern about your weight and conceiving?

Thylacine - sounds like the Great Ocean Road is the place to be at the moment hey!! How was Apollo Bay?? We have now booked all our accommodation and really looking forward to it. We've splurged a bit with our accommodation despite only being there for a night but plan to be able to cook for ourselves a couple nights and relax in our apartments. Everything you mentioned is already on my list including Otways treetop walk. I won't be doing the zipline though as I'd rather not do these things during my 2WW. Also did a zipline in Switzerland. DH hasn't said anything about wanting to do it either. Can't wait though, will be a fantastic weekend. Have also told DH that I won't be drinking that weekend either after he suggested getting some bottles of wine and relaxing on our balconies.

biabp - yeah I've wanted to do the Great Ocean Road for years but just never gotten around to it. Have also travelled the boring/short way to Melbourne when I've gone previously. Accommodation is all booked as you'll read above. Definitely can't wait for DH to get home. And yay AF has departed!! I know it really has gone fast this time with DH away which I'm so thankful for. Makes life much easier to manage when it goes faster. Just sux when the time he is home goes way too fast.
Lol that's funny you all failed your scooter tests. Sux it means you have to have another day off though, how annoying. Good luck next week. Sux about the weather over there. Today its forecast 33 with thunderstorms. Awesome, not!! Can't believe your temps, they're so high!! I haven't broken the 36.70 mark let alone making it to 37. Lol about your dogs jumping on your boobs!! Animals just don't get it!!
Hoping you have a good long weekend, even if it is ultra busy.

AFM - 3 sleeps until DH is home, yay!!! Can't wait. Now on cyclone watch to make sure it doesn't come too early and stuff up his flights.
AF kindly exited the door yesterday, yay again!! Now to wait for O, hoping it will be a bit earlier than CD 19 this month. LP was 14 days so at least that was a positive and cycle was down to 33 down from 34 and 37 before that. Hoping it will drop down again closer to 28 days. Will be starting with OPK's around day 10 or 12 I'm thinking.
Went back to the naturopath again yesterday. She was happy with my progress around liver, thyroid and iron but still issues around circulation and blood flow on top of it. Also showed my naturopath my chart on FF which she couldn't believe the app and how convenient it is. She was however of course concerned about my temps. She's thinking that if I'm not better in 4 weeks she may put me on herbs. Was however thinking I wouldn't temp whilst DH is home as I don't think he'd like the beeping!! Wishing that the damn thing wouldn't beep so that I could continue temping just to monitor whether the current medications are effecting them or not but oh well.
Anyhow off to try get motivated and get this house clean and finish off decluttering the house.
Hope you all have a good weekend

Morning all!!

Bit random topic but here goes!! does anyone else have really freaky realistic dreams??

Last night I had a dream that I was UTD and I had this amazing very Hollywood birth LOL
and I was trying to get the baby to feed (weird right?) and He wouldn't do it!! So I got all upset saying that the baby didn't like me hahahaha

how strange!! I think I need to stop reading EB forums before bed time it's messing with my head!!

Hope you're all having a nice weekend

Cams, going to hosp at 9am Monday for repeat bloods and to find out what the hell is going on. Hoping for a massive drop in my hcg

Afternoon all.

I hope you are all doing well.

Still PG here, though can't get confirmed by my doc till they re-open, which isn't till Wednesday!!

Meg - I am also technically underweight, and it has never seemed to worry my doctors, however, when getting my body ready for TTC my naturopath wanted me to start eating more protein rich foods and doing some sort of exercise (which would hopefully lead to some sort of weight gain through muscle mass).
She advised fish as one of the best ways to get the protein I needed, so DH and I now have at least one fish meal a week, and I also started having more tuna for lunch again. I combined this with doing some body balance / pump classes.
I'm not sure if I had been doing it long enough for it to become weight gain (of the right sort), but I certainly felt better overall after I'd made the changes.

Good luck! I know it certainly helped me changing my diet when someone could tell me (not just the internet) what I should add to my diet.

Vanilla - just read your post, my fingers are crossed for you! I hope it goes well.

Vanilla - I have my fingers crossed for you. Hoping that your appointment goes well on Monday. Keep us updated when you know more

Wow, 4 pages to catch up on! Apologies in advance if I miss accidentally miss anyone with my personals!!

Vanilla I hope that you are going to get some "good" news at your doctor's appointment on Monday, and that it is not an ectopic. How long will you have to wait to have it confirmed if that is what it is? You are being so amazingly strong through all of this, I can't begin to imagine how you must feel. I am thinking of you and I hope it will not be too long before you can start to TTC again xxxx

Cams 3 days and counting!!! Yay!!!! Good to hear you've sorted your GOR accommodation too. My favourite places on the GOR are Lorne itself (much nicer than Apollo Bay), the Otways (great for bushwalking, waterfalls & the Otway Fly) and the beach at Loch Ard Gorge Have a fabulous time and I hope you will catch O while your DH is home!!

Annabee Argh limbo land again, you poor thing hon!! How frustrating. Great idea with the fitness pact with your sister, I did a similar thing in the lead up to my wedding last year & I'm trying to get fit and lose weight again now. I've just signed up for the 1 million kilo challenge actually - there's an EB team called "EB Babes" if you're interested in joining - there's a thread about it here.

Jo1313 Your friend's Nepal trip sounds great! I'm not sure I could eat guinea pig though, they're so cute! Good to hear you're feeling less stressed & enjoying the ride this month, I also get very stressed when I charted, so not sure if I'll do it again when I get back from my trip.

Jujujulie Not sure if I have chatted with you before, but congratulations on your BFP!!!

1babyplease Limboland for you too I hope you get some good news soon! I think if I were you I would be POAS!

Thylacine Sounds like our GOR favourite places are the same! I love Loch Ard gorge.

Poppy Your Formosan Rock Macaque made me laugh out loud! Good idea to make sure you get lots of time to yourselves over O time and I think if you / DH need to tell some little white lies to get it then you should! It's hard isn't it?

Meg88 Oh hon I'm sorry you're feeling so frustrated at the moment, I don't blame you at all - you've been trying for such a long time now!! There's some info here about being underweight while TTC. Maybe you could ask your GP for a referral to a dietician to talk about it? Thinking of you & sending you a

Babyinabackpack - your temp is still high!! My fingers and toes are crossed for you this month!!!! Hope your mega weekend is fun & not too exhausting! Bummer about your scooter licences, are you going to book in again soon?

Superfruity Hope you're doing something fun this weekend to distract yourself from the 2WW!

Chillidog DH & I haven't actually spoken about circumcision, but I am sure he would not want to get it done, I certainly don't either. It is a tricky one though especially for men who are circumcised and who come from backgrounds where it's common. Hope you're able to find some common ground soon.

N@K Great to hear everything is progressing well for you

and baby dust to everyone!!

AFM Starting to plan my Nepal trip, and also my pre-Nepal fitness plan! I went to the gym this morning, and also for a 4 km walk, jogging some sections . I've booked in for a "1-on-1" and BioAge test at my gym on Monday too, and we've planned a hike next weekend to Lake Tali Karng in the Alpine National Park. So it's all happening ladies - I'm determined to move my caboose and shake these kilos!



Hmm, good question superfruity ! I leave on Feb 18, arrive back home on 12 March. February is their last month of winter, March is considered the start of spring. By the looks of it the trek I had originally wanted to do (Annapurna Sanctuary) may well be under snow at this time of year... this would have been a 15 day trek.... I'm now also looking at other alternatives including one called "A week below Everest", and even the Poon Hill trek, which I have actually done before but would do again. I still don't know if my friend is going to be able to trek with me - hopefully she will find out soon so we can start planning. I'll have 3 weeks there, and I want to do some 'normal' sightseeing as well as trekking, so some of the shorter treks might be more appealing in the end. I'll keep you all posted as my plans unfold!!

warning this is just a ramble but not really


Any way I found out yesterday that my sister (17) and her friend (17) are flying to victoria for a week im ok with that but the thing is the tullammarine airport is huge what happens if the get hurt or lost as the don't look 17 i think im just a worry wort but anyway she is going with the dragon (my nana) i dont trust my nan she is a mental.......... after what happened with my dad she has never really liked me

any way ramble over

today I had a fever it has gone down a little bit but i went on with my day as it was caused by my impacted wisdom teeth which are trying to come up I cant wait to get that letter to say im getting them removed well today AF has been non-existant and it was only day 4.


I will do personals tomorrow

Well AF arrived overnight & the evil little so & so is determined that I remember she's here by giving me awful pains. At 1 month & 5 days late I really thought it was going to be my turn I really hope the heavy lifting i did on Friday has nothing to do with her arrival. I was trying so hard not to let her hiatus effect how I went about my life bc I didn't want to focus/stress about it.

DH is rather positive & said Atleast we can try again. The in laws have pushed back any booking of the Europe trip until late march so I guess we really only have 1 cycle left of TTC unless we want to travel being pg.

sorry to hear about AF 1babyplease




my DH has lost 60kg now so proud of him he was 190kg and is now 129

Hi all, nice to be back in TTC land after 2 weeks in the UK with hardly any internet access. Wow, things move fast here! I am super jetlagged after only arriving back early this morning and reading through previous thread to stay awake and get back in the swing of things! I only have today to recover and back to nearly a week of night shifts from tomorrow, yuck!

I am a bit behind but very sorry to hear your sad news, Vanilla and ABTTC. Wishing you both happier times ahead.

Brain is too fuzzy for in-depth personals and typing on phone is tricky but congrats to the BFP-ers. N@K, so pleased for you, especially as we share a birthday and seemed to be on a similar ovulation schedule!

No BFP for me this time around though. Had a very odd month with being overseas, not really being able to temp chart and period arriving earlier than expected. Didn't even get to POAS! Should be pleased really as vits seem to have shortened and regulated my cycle. However, I feel a bit out of sorts and not sure what's going on now. OPKs are neg and not sure if we've missed the boat or still waiting for O. Frustrating as feels like a wasted opportunity but couldn't really be helped. Katie, can you please add me to waiting to O and I'll update if needed.

Best of luck to everyone still in with a chance this month or onto the next.

I have been reading throught the posts regularly over Christmas. I'm sorry for the lack of personal's, it's hard to remember everything I want to write to people. I will have to keep posting more regularly to stay on top of it, or else I will need to sit down with pen and paper and make notes for everyone!




Can I ask what a Hollywood birth is? If it means I go in looking like me and come out looking like Angelina Jolie, sign me up!!!



I hope all goes well for you on Wednesday!

Babyinabackpack - your post about the scooter licences made me chuckle a little. Will you go back again soon? As they as crazy with their driving skills there as the Chinese are?

seaside_shells - sorry to hear about the arrival of AF, however MEGA jealous to read about your Nepal trip. Was that from one of those internet voucher deals? Only ask I saw an offer come up on one of those deal sites for Nepal and I was SOOOOOO tempted, however finances, leave etc would not allow.

As for me . . . it has been great to have some time off over the festive period, the body definitely needed the break from work. I ate so much and slept so much, it was fantastic!

On NYE, I was fully convinced I was pg - symptoms were all there and I was feeling wretched . . . so after some deliberation with DH, I did a last minute run to the pharmacy (I'm pretty sure the pharmacist rolled her eyes when she saw me running through the doors at 4:50pm) and picked up a 2 pack of hpt's. I admit I had to spend some time working out which one to get as I had no idea, have never done one before. I ended up asking the pharmacist for input (which I'm sure was the result of another eye roll . . . tick tock tick tock its almost closing time).

Even though I was a week out from AF being due, I still felt it was worth doing (and my hpt said it can detect up to so many days before AF is due). Read the instructions of the test (whilst feeling like a naughty school girl, not sure why) and patiently waited for the first wee of the next day. It wasn't a big shock when it came back negative as I was only POAS because of some symptoms . . . let's be honest, the main symptom (AF) wasn't even late.

I have to admit, even though we're so early into TTC and this was the first hpt, I was a little disappointed it was negative.

Each time I walked into our ensuite, my mind would wander to the second test sitting in my cupboard . . . almost summoning me to give it another try, however I ignored it and kept going about my business.

Earlier in the week, I went and donated blood for the first time, which was nerve wrecking as I hate needles, but I did it. You have to fill in a questionnaire which asks if you are pg, which after discussion with the nurse, I ticked no. No point in ticking anything else when the test was negative. Just declaring it to the world that I wasn't pg. (Highly recommend we all donate blood, it's not a long process, doesn't hurt and is soooooo beneficial).

Few days later, AF doesn't show up when she's due (she's very prompt at keeping her due date) . . . start to get excited, however once bitten, twice shy and all of that . . . I decide not to think about it as I'm not going to be disappointed again.

AF is then 2 days late . . . excitement starts to creep in again . . . but this all feels so weird . . . I've got all my AF symtoms - cramps, wind and (TMI WARNING) doing the BD feel's dry and uncomfortable. SOOOO CONFUSING . . .

DH asked me yesterday morning if I did the second hpt yet, which I hadn't as I forgot about it when doing the first wee of the day. He asked me to try remember to do it this morning, so I said I would.

I woke up at 3am bursting for a wee, but tried to return to sleep as I didn't want to be messing around with hpt's at that hour. Sleep was really uncomfortable and I eventually gave up at 5am and toddled off to the bathroom to do my business. I was standing there waiting for the 3 minutes to be up before I looked at the result, really expecting to return to bed disappointed. . . .

Disappointment didn't arrive . . . Instead I've received a result. The test I used does a conception prediction too and estimates I'm 1-2weeks pg (which they say is 3-4 weeks by Doc's calculations). I was so excited, poor DH was woken up at 5am . . . he was excited but in typical man fashion soon returned to dream land. Me on the other hand was wide awake with mind spinning at a million miles per hour trying to figure out how accurate it is, wondering if it was possible to get a blood test done on a Sunday morning in Melbourne (heheh).

Obviously its now later in the day, my mind is still spinning . . . aarrrrgggghhhh I might be PG . . . but then my crazy brain says I might not be . . . really need to know, but I'm also scared (in a good way, if that makes sense?).

Would love to do this blood test with my local GP (as she rocks and I'd like to share it with her). As some of you know, I live in country Victoria, however work in Melbourne CBD, so getting to the GP isn't always easy. Does anyone know how long it takes for a blood test to come back or can the GP test there and give results on the spot??

I don't want to wait too long . . .

*STILL SPINNING OUT*

WOW Congrats a hope it is sticky as for donating blood they ask if your pg as both you and the baby need as much iorn as you can get but i think that one day was ok if your in QLD they will test your blood for that anyway and tell you (they always do) and i had to stop giving blood as i was that low in my iorn it was 114 and it is meant to be at least 124 i have been down as 95 (i ended up in hospital)

Hi all!

Wow, this thread moves so fast! I was away in China for a week and so much has happened. Sorry if my personals are from a few weeks (and many pages) back. Apologies in advance that this post is so long!




Vanilla & ABTTC: I was so sorry to hear of your losses, big hugs to you both. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be. I hope 2012 holds more positive things in store. It’s so wonderful that EB is here for you to share/vent; it’s why I joined this forum. My sister had a MC a few years ago and the stress of feeling she had to keep it a ‘secret’ meant it took her literally years to get over it. I’m not sure why she felt she couldn’t share her sadness but she did. It’s such a personal experience, we don’t know, and can’t dictate, how anyone should feel or act.



Congratulations to N@K, what a wonderful birthday present! And louiseos, wow! FX the blood tests can confirm asap!



Cams: DH & I have lived in Hong Kong almost 4 years, we were in London for our honeymoon in June too! Great minds think alike We’ll likely live in Central London as his work is in the finance district. Australia Day on the GOR sounds wonderful, hopefully the gorgeous views take your mind off 2WW.



Kabrsi: Our move to London is for at least 2 years but it’s most likely to be longer. How long are you in Scotland for? Have you looked into UK Maternal services (i.e. hospitals) or are you going to wait until your BFP?



Babyinabackpack: Taiwan, fantastic! I haven’t been there yet but have heard so many awesome things about the food.



Seasideshells: DH got a transfer with work but I’ll need to get a new job on arrival. I have a British Passport though (thanks to my Pommy dad) so no need to worry about Visas. Wow, Nepal! That is so exciting!!



Annabee: I’m also gluten intolerant and find it really hard to tell the difference between bloating from food & from AF. Woollys and Coles really have an amazing variety of GF products these days (I often stock-up on trips back to Oz) so it’s not as difficult to be GF anymore. And lots of cafes do GF cake and cookies too! I was following a post here a few weeks ago about some other GF pregnant chickies and found it quite interesting. Be careful of porridge though – some GF people are actually sensitive to wheat/rye/barley and oats. For me, I just eat a lot of rice and have really begun to enjoy baking my own GF things from scratch so that’s made it a bit easier. Try Asian Grocers for Rice Flour & Rice noodles and Indian Grocers for Chickpea Flour – much cheaper than health shops.



Chillidog: DH isn’t circumcised so, like Meg88, we won’t do it if we have a boy.



A few weeks back some of you mentioned buying clothes/item for your not-yet-conceived bubs. When DH and I were in Beijing this week we went to a pearl factory (part of a tour). I’d thought DH was still a little freaked about us officially TTC so had a teary moment when he bought a teeny tiny pearl bracelet for ‘our little girl’. Turned me to mush.




Welcome to all the newbies! I’m still one too



AFM: I’m now in 2WW. Lots of BD this month (yay) after poor DH had stage fright most of last month. FX but with so much flying, and the stress of moving countries, I don’t think it’ll be our month. Sigh. Patience is not one of my strengths.

Ok I'm at work and trying not to get too excited but I just went to the toilet and I have a little bot of brown spotting. Here's my dates: O'd CD20 (+OPK), now approx 8dpo, assuming a normal 14d luteul phase AF isn't due for another 6days.

I've never had a cycle shorter than 30days and even that is still 2-3days away.

I've had some twinges mostly on my right side for the past week but really nothing else, maybe a couple of pimples.

I'm gonna try not to get my hopes up though. I really hope it's implantation and not AF otherwise my cycles gave gone loopy all of a sudden. FX (please, please, pleeeeaaasssseeee!!!!!!!)

Louiseos...WOW congratulations!! That's so awesome...very happy for you!

Meg88 - I have my fingers and toes crossed for you that it is implantation...please keep us posted.

AFM I'm out this month...AF arrived yesterday afternoon. I'm so unsure of what my body is doing as I've had 2 really strange cycles since we started TTC. I wonder if subconsciously I'm stressed which is doing funny things to my cycle.

Oh well...time to start a new month with new hope. Fingers crossed next cycle is a little more normal and I don't start getting all these freaky symptoms unless it comes with a BFP at the end.

Awww today we found the pram we are buying

Why cant I go grocery shopping without having every fricking woman in the store pregnant!

They are all walking around, rubbing their bellies, buying baby products etc etc.

it's like life is just kicking me when I'm down. I walked out of there feeling so depressed, I just wanted to shout out why not me!

I have bloody pregnancy hormones still in my body, I'm still getting damn bfp's, but I'm not getting a baby from it. It's not freaking fair. This baby would have been so freaking loved.

Ok...vent over. I feel better now. Just needed to shout in words.

Some minor positive news though, bfp was lighter today, so hoping my levels are going down nicely. Am not going for bloods tomorrow as it will still show positive. So will go wed or thurs and hopefully it might be negative, and if not, will look at management. But I think the lighter test is a step in the right direction so I'm not going to panic and believe ectopic just yet. Test this morning was half the strength of 2 days ago, and now just visible, like the first or second bfp line you see with a preg. Whereas the one two days ago was clear and dark. And there is the scantest amount of brown loss, but most toilet breaks there is none at all, and I haven't had to wear a pad. So that's good too.

Can't wait for this to be over! I'll be so much happier

Congrats on your BFP Louiseos!!! How exciting for you! I hope it's a sticky little bean and all goes well for the next 8.5 months x

Sorry to hear you are still struggling Vanilla. I hope it is all over for you soon and you can start to move on. You are still in my thoughts, even though I've not been posting much lately.

BIABP ~ fingers crossed!

Sorry AF arrived ChilliDog, 1babyplease, Johanna and Seaside! But YAY for Nepal Seaside!! Very jealous!

Cams ~ how exciting that DH is nearly home... he won't know what's hit him

To every one else ~ baby dust your way!!

Sorry to for being so slack lately, ladies, I've been having a few emotional ups and downs so have been hibernating from the world a bit. I have been reading and keeping up with all your news though! I'm waiting to O right now and we should be in the middle of a BD marathon, but my mood has been affecting both of us, so we haven't been all that intimate lately I think we've both been a bit stressed about money and it's been making us both snappy and generally not much fun to be around. We had a huge christmas and a lot scheduled, so we have been run off our feet, so that hasn't helped either!
And to top it all off, I just got hit with a bad gastro bug, so have been wiped out all weekend.
However, I refuse to stay in this slump any longer! Tomorrow is a new day, and DH and I had a bit of a D&M this afternoon and we are both going to make a conscious effort to be less snappy and stressed, and take some more time to spend together quietly, just walking the dog or cooking dinner... I think we just need to relax and reconnect a little.

Wow. That turned into a huge rant! Sorry girls!

OH cubalulu sometimes we just need to rant and let it out the other day when AF arrived i cried to DH and said that maybe im not meant to have chn but Dh calmed me down and today we got to go and look at baby stuff it calms me down