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lovelove2012
I had parent teacher interview and my year 8 teacher said my son will become a doctor. She said i always call him doctor and he should do biology. i said huh? he got only 67% for science.
she said they did alot of disecting in class and he was good at it. They disected frogs, rats etc and my son said he has no fear and can disect it. No fear of blood.
My son said his teacher always call him dr. ........

Now that creates fear in me because that is also a sign of a killer right? no remorse, no fear.
Shouldnt everyone feel some kind of ewww when they see blood or disect something?
AryaStar
My understanding is that the animals are already dead before they are used in class for dissection. I see a huge difference between someone who enjoys the killing and torture of animals and someone who is able to dissect a dead animal in a clinical way because they don't get queasy at the sight of blood.

I wouldn't worry too much OP. There are many other red flag behaviours that need to be present for you to have any concern.
delta508
I loved dissecting my rat in Year 8 biology! biggrin.gif

I'm not a serial killer rolleyes.gif

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darlia
No. I always found dissections interesting and I don't think I am weird or pathological.
GreyMatter
I didn't know anything about it being the sign of a killer.

My sister was great in science. She had no problem disecting things, never bothered, more facsinated by what she saw and did. She is now a scientist. I on the other hand couldn't actually participate, and to this day can't watch show like RPA (I even cover my eyes throughout parts of Greys Anatomy). I think it just bothers some people less. I wouldn't read too much into it unless there are other signs of concern.
~Aine~
Ummmmm, what?

No, I don't think this is a sign of serial-killing sprees to come.

howdoyoudoit
I would send him studying to be a surgeon..... doesnt ring any serial killer bells to me..if he was wanting to kill them yet... what about abbottiour (sp?) workers who do kill animals..do you think they are serial killers???
raven74
There is a lot more to being a sociopathic serial killer than being able to dissect a specimen. I'd be more concerned that the teacher is insinuating a profession on a 12 - 13 year old and not calling him by name.
If your son was intentionally harming others or the family pets and NOT understanding or caring that it is wrong, having no feelings toward that, show no empathy for certain situations then yes, I'd be concerned. Dissecting a rat? No.
mad madam mim
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Now that creates fear in me because that is also a sign of a killer right? no remorse, no fear.
laughing2.gif you're kidding right? We used to dissect pig hearts etc in science and I never gave a hoot about what I was cutting into, it was dead by the time it got to me, it was science class. I think you are reading waaaaaay too much into this. Be proud of your son.
Telmatiaeos
Your son is perfectly normal.
idignantlyright
If he was a psycopath or had tendencies, you would have seen signs of it already.
Riotproof
QUOTE (raven74 @ 01/07/2011, 12:51 PM) *
There is a lot more to being a sociopathic serial killer than being able to dissect a specimen. I'd be more concerned that the teacher is insinuating a profession on a 12 - 13 year old and not calling him by name.


Me too. Isn't that a bit weird?

I'm sure it's meant as a compliment though... it certainly doesn't indicate any sociopathic tendencies.
redkris
Some kids have no problems with a bit of gore....to this day DH is fascinated by operations and the like. When he had his big toenail removed as a 15 year old he asked if he could stay awake to watch them do it (they wouldn't let him lol)
No bodies under our floorboards as far as i know.
baddmammajamma
Front runner for "weirdest post of the day..."
**Xena**
.....Slowly backing out of the thread full of potential serial killers.....
Saecularis Angelus
I think there's a difference between being able to do the kind of work he does in science class, and being able to torture.

I loved dissection in class - my reaction was fascinated rather than grossed out - and when I was in uni. I was always the fastest in my lab group to find the rat's spleen (we worked with spleen cells a lot).

But...I also learned that year in uni. that I can't stomach live animal work. When they're dead in front of me, it's all good, and I can do whatever, but when they're alive I don't want to be injecting or working with them in a clinical way; I couldn't dissociate from their suffering. So the two don't necessarily go hand in hand.

(That's not to take away from the people who can do live animal work, and undertake necessary study, I'm just saying it's possible to be good at and enjoy dissection without it meaning he'll even be able to cope with anything more emotionally difficult).
lovelove2012
thanks guy for your input. I feel better now. I was getting stressed out last night thinking what if these were signs of serial killer. Some of you are so funny original.gif
~Nodnol~
I enjoyed watching my own c/s. Does that mean I'm a ticking time bomb? unsure.gif
scoutster
I did comparative anatomy at uni, dissected just about everything. It was interesting and I really enjoyed it. Our animals came from vets and other sources, they weren't killed for our classes-even the humans wink.gif

I am far from serial killer material, can't even swat a fly.
~ky~
My sweet, sensitive and loving 10yo daughter has always wanted to be a doctor. She has no issue with gore and we have disected a couple of mice etc that we have found no longer alive at our place so that she could see how they functioned. She hasn't a psycopathic bone in her body!

She's been fascinated by medical programs, graphic medical books/texts since the age of 2yo and is a part of St John Ambulance cadets where they deal with some pretty realistic looking and gory wounds in their competitions.

I loved disections and am fascinated by medical info. I am not a psycopath either ...
may-b-baby
Another potential candidate here.

I took Anatomy and Physiology at Uni.

We disected a brain, eye, lung, heart, liver, gall bladder and large joint.

I had no fear of any of these and felt no remorse while performing the required tasks. I was however completely and utterly enthralled.

I found it fun and looked forward to these practical classes

I'm no killer, i'm just amazed by anatomy. I really don't think it's any thing to worry about.
50ftqueenie
Another potential serial killer here wacko.gif . I loved that kind of stuff at school, and I love seeing surgery on TV. I'm not cold and unemotional (I cry at the drop of a hat) and I hate horror movies, or even scary movies - I'm just not squeamish about real life gore.
~Aine~
QUOTE (~Nodnol~ @ 01/07/2011, 11:01 AM) *
I enjoyed watching my own c/s. Does that mean I'm a ticking time bomb? unsure.gif


Why yes, actually, it probably does.

*heads off to block Nodnol the ticking time bomb*

Crombek
I would think that a lot of people were fascinated with blood and gore. How else would you explain the number of RPA, Bizzare Bodies, type shows that are on tv?

I loved disecting the sheeps eye at school, can't cope with blood though.
~Nodnol~
QUOTE (~Aine~ @ 01/07/2011, 02:05 PM) *
Why yes, actually, it probably does.

*heads off to block Nodnol the ticking time bomb*



I might have to watch Dexter for some tips. dev (6).gif
Mumsyto2
QUOTE (pomegranate2010 @ 01/07/2011, 01:45 PM) *
Now that creates fear in me because that is also a sign of a killer right? no remorse, no fear.
Shouldnt everyone feel some kind of ewww when they see blood or disect something?

Uuuhmmm noooooo. It's situationally dependant.
In the scenario you describe I would consider it normal NOT to go 'eeewwww' as you put it. It's completely different to say kidnapping a dog off the street, slaughtering it and getting your jollies.
You most likely just have a personal fear or dislike of blood and such but a lot of people don't and it would not worry them provided dealing with it was within a suitable context which is the case in your DS science class.

Edited to add - if what you are worried about were to be the case who do you think would become Dr's or work in allied professions, ONLY serial killers or psychotic maniacs ? Seriously.
AMPSyd
Oh gosh, I wish I was like your son - I am soooo very squeemish when it comes to dissecting anything. I fainted after looking at a sheep's heart.

Maybe your son will become a surgeon when he gets older.

goldimouse
QUOTE (may-b-baby @ 01/07/2011, 01:04 PM) *
We disected a brain, eye, lung, heart, liver, gall bladder and large joing.

What is that??

I was the only one in my group brave enough to touch the dead rat's fur in science in yr 9 without gloves on. Everyone else was all "No way, it's dead, I'm not touching it". LOL

After the class I asked them if they had ever chopped up raw meat and they all kind of went a bit pale.
MahnaMahna
Uh oh, no wonder the other people in my anatomy class looked at me funny, they think I am a serial killer laughing2.gif

Sorry OP, not meant in a mocking way original.gif

I think some people just find it fascinating, as I do.
~Nodnol~
Ooh, Robbie, you and I could make quite the team. cool.gif
Quill
Poor little nerd.

My son tops science but swoons whenever Bondi Vet comes on. I'm so ashamed.

Stand tall, lil' potential Dexter. hheart.gif

But Nodnol?

There are limited resources on this board for psychopaths in her calibre. Into Hello Kitty. Has a little girl with reeeeeeeeeally short hair. I mean,...the madness knows no bounds.
unsure.gif
She's the EB version of the Blair Witch Project.
cry1.gif
Mexy
QUOTE (delta508 @ 01/07/2011, 12:49 PM) *
I loved dissecting my rat in Year 8 biology! biggrin.gif

I'm not a serial killer rolleyes.gif

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I bet you are tongue.gif
QUOTE (**Xena** @ 01/07/2011, 12:59 PM) *
.....Slowly backing out of the thread full of potential serial killers.....

Xena... come here... something I want to show you.... dev (6).gif
QUOTE (~ky~ @ 01/07/2011, 01:03 PM) *
My sweet, sensitive and loving 10yo daughter has always wanted to be a doctor. She has no issue with gore and we have disected a couple of mice etc that we have found no longer alive at our place so that she could see how they functioned. She hasn't a psycopathic bone in her body!

I know there is nothing wrong with this... but all the same.. EEWWW hehehe.
may-b-baby
Robbie - A 'Joing' forms as a result of bad typing.

It should say 'large joint' as in elbow or knee.
~*Twilight~Zone*~
My DD can be very squeamish but has no problems dissecting things in Human Biology.

I think it has more to do with the detachment of knowing that they are doing study and therefore see it more as an object rather something that was once alive.
goldimouse
Oh ok laughing2.gif

Nodnol - you and me = totally badass.
BadCat
It's funny where your brain can take you when you don't give it something better to do, isn't it?

I'm sure plenty of kids liked to disect things in science and grew up just fine.

I loved disection and I rarely kill anyone. Just the odd one who's really asking for it... ph34r.gif
vegiepatch
QUOTE (baddmammajamma @ 01/07/2011, 12:58 PM) *
Front runner for "weirdest post of the day..."


Yes

If your son liked to torture live animals then there would be issues. But he is dissecting an animal and is very good at it which means he probably has great concentration and is very practical with his thinking. So no, not a serial killer.
Quill
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Nodnol - you and me = totally badass


Aine + Quill = On Nodnol's case
Mumsyto2
QUOTE (pomegranate2010 @ 01/07/2011, 02:00 PM) *
thanks guy for your input. I feel better now. I was getting stressed out last night thinking what if these were signs of serial killer. Some of you are so funny original.gif

Thinking of your OP and how it obviously does not relate to any real life scenarios I actually thought you were the 'funny' one.

Ever wondered why when you go into an ER/Casualty the staff are not running around madly going 'eeeeewwww' at the sight of blood and people such as ambos seem to be able to keep it together? Common sense tells you they are not psychotic killers yet you worry your DS may be one as he does not freak out during dissection in science class. That's funny.
vegiepatch
QUOTE (Quill @ 01/07/2011, 01:15 PM) *
Poor little nerd.

My son tops science but swoons whenever Bondi Vet comes on. I'm so ashamed.

Stand tall, lil' potential Dexter. hheart.gif

But Nodnol?

There are limited resources on this board for psychopaths in her calibre. Into Hello Kitty. Has a little girl with reeeeeeeeeally short hair. I mean,...the madness knows no bounds.
unsure.gif
She's the EB version of the Blair Witch Project.
cry1.gif


I love Hello Kitty and so does DP (says he was a Japanese schoolgirl in a former life) should my parents be worried? LOL
vonnegutesque
roll2.gif this thread is awesome.
Super Cat
If he's trapping the neighbourhood pets and disecting them whilst they're still alive, you have a problem. If he's not squeamish at disecting an already dead animal that he's been told to disect by a teacher, you have a budding scientist.

I loved doing the disections at school. Especially the cows eyes. They're so cool!
GWTW
Yes OP it is. In fact, I think there might be a few more worrying signs that your child is a killer or potential killer or you wouldn't have leapt to that highly improbable idea otherwise.

I think you should definitely take him to a psychiatrist to get a full lot of testing done, and I would also make sure they try a round of electroshock therapy just to curb any immediately dangerous tendencies.

It's great you are such an attentive parent to have picked up this potential in your child. Please make sure to get him the help he needs. Good luck.
maybelle
roll2.gif

You are a very funny lady OP
*Greenbag*
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vonnegutesque
Crombek
Oh dear, is it wrong that I think the most disturbing part of that picture is dads shorts?
Wishing2011
I was fine disecting things in highschool. I however cannot even think about cutting someone else up. I can watch it on tv but I still cringe. I did love biology though.
sebela
Hahaha my 9 yr old has said more than once "I am going to be a heart Dr or a brain Dr because you get to cut up dead people at university", she loves nothing better than to cut up cow hearts etc at school, or watch me have a blood test - but she bursts into tears when her sister cries or if you speak harshly to her. I think being fascinated with biology is quite different to having no empathy for other people and creatures.
BadCat
QUOTE (AbsolutCara @ 01/07/2011, 01:34 PM) *



I think the sister suspects something...
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