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Bigmum
I am feeling miserable.

I have just come home from the uk, and I have had an itchy bottom and discovered I have worms (I am sure, I had these as a young child, I remember them and the itching well sad.gif )

I am so scared. Information I have read says its not good for the baby as the worms thrive on the nutrients. I plan on going to the doctor, but wondering if the doctor can give me anything for it?

Has anyone been through this and can offer any advice.

I know this is gross and embarrassing, but I am here for the traffic. I am a clean person and wash my hands all the time...so a little stumped as to where it has come from, although dd has had tummy aches for 2 weeks- so better check her too.
Benevolence
It is not really that gross or embarrassing - especially when you have kids. I'm sure you could go to the chemist and the pharmacist will tell you what you can take during pg. It will be just one oral dose and the worms will be gone. Unless you are malnourished and don't get it treated, I don't think it will harm your baby.

Good luck.
Ruffles
I would ring a pharmacist. They should be able to tell you over the phone what is safe for pregnancy, and you could probably get some tonight - if there is anything.
NewMum99
Oh that sounds miserable. No advice, but you can get worms from improperly handled food or from animals - it doesn't mean you're unclean in any way. I got them as a teenager from petting our dog.
TherophosaBlondi
From MIMS on Combantrin with Mebendezole(the chocolate squares):

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Do not take Combantrin-1 with Mebendazole if you are pregnant or breast feeding unless advised by your doctor.


It si the same for ordinary Combantrin as well. Neither has been tested in pregnancy but the active ingredient isn't known to cause birth defects or complications.

Check with your Dr BEFORE taking it.
lifehacker
I could be wrong but I am sure I read that you should not take anything for worms when pg. Something about the cycle will just break itself and die out within 6 weeks with good hygiene and handwashing.
Wouldn't be a very comfortable 6 weeks however. I would definately check with your doctor before taking anything.
Bigmum
thanks all, I am going to go to the doctor when dh is home, as I am in Singapore, I am not sure what the pharmacy will or wont supply as they aren't the same as australia. I am more inclined to beleive my doctors advice too. Given my history I am not willing to risk anything.

Thanks for your comfort. I am feeling a bit better about things.
~Alchemy~
I would google natural ways to rid yourself. I recently told a pregnant friend to eat a shedload of raw garlic. She googled it and the garlic combined with a heap of grated carrot got rid of all the worms in both her and her toddler original.gif

There's ways around that awful toxic medicine.
NewMum99
QUOTE (Bigmum @ 22/06/2011, 06:40 PM) *
as I am in Singapore, I am not sure what the pharmacy will or wont supply as they aren't the same as australia.


AHHHH! As I wrote earlier, I caught worms off my dog as a teenager. I grew up in Singapore. They're very common in the tropics! Also be careful. Having spent over a decade in Sing I know from experience the doctors do have a tendency to over-prescribe some pretty heavy duty medicine.
~Alchemy~
QUOTE (fertile woman @ 22/06/2011, 07:30 PM) *
I am familiar with natural worming products and even they are not safe for pregnancy and breastfeeding.



Raw garlic and grated carrot not safe during pregnancy and breastfeeding?

Better add that one to the list of brie cheese and deli meats then wink.gif
BetteBoop
Garlic suppository. Take one peeled garlic glove and put it up your bum. It's perfectly natural and will kill the worms.

BTW, there is nothing wrong with having worms. That's natural too and at any time most people have some type of parasite in their body. Don't worry about it. They won't hurt you or the baby.
2 Gorgeous Girls
I had them when I was pregnant last. sick.gif

My Dr told me I couldn't take anything so I googled natural remedies and the only on that looked palatable was raw grated carrot first thing in the morning. It worked but whether it was a coincidence I don't know. I only ever saw one of them so I don't think it was very bad.
Bigmum
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Having spent over a decade in Sing I know from experience the doctors do have a tendency to over-prescribe some pretty heavy duty medicine.

haha...tell me about. One dd had tonsilitis and ended up with 4 meds for it!

I have checked dd#1, and she has them too. Given the timing of her tummy ache, looks like she got them in the last week of school before holidays.
Which times in with when i started getting itching too.

Ah the joys....
Newmum 99, is there a way to stop getting worms frequently, should I be boiling water before drinking it? Whats the go?
censura carnero
I got worms in my first pregnancy and my obstetrician had no problems with me being wormed. They might be fine but they are not fun. Be very careful with wiping your bottom. The only thing worse than worms in your a*se is worms in your vagina. biggrin.gif Hope no one is eating while they are reading this.
soontobegran
Combantrin is generally thought to be safe in the third trimester of pregnancy with your doctors go ahead. OP as you are only in your second trimester I would stick to the natural remedies that PP's have recommended.

Don't be embarrassed----we all go through it at some stage original.gif
Ruffles
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Garlic suppository. Take one peeled garlic glove and put it up your bum. It's perfectly natural and will kill the worms.


That sounds like a really good option - cheap, easy, natural. And I'd imagine completely safe for breastfeeding and pregnancy.
trish12a
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I got worms in my first pregnancy and my obstetrician had no problems with me being wormed.


Me too, but I think I was in the 3rd trimester (could be wrong though). My chemist was able to advise on which medication to take.
Mrs Manager
Oh crap. I took some while preg, 1st trimester. Now 37 weeks. I had no idea it was so bad. Can anyone tell me what are the risks? What on earth have I done to my baby!!!
NewMum99
QUOTE (Bigmum @ 22/06/2011, 07:36 PM) *
is there a way to stop getting worms frequently, should I be boiling water before drinking it? Whats the go?


Unfortunately I never found a way to prevent getting them, *sigh* I don't think it's a water issue - Singapore's water is pretty good quality. It's all recycled so highly treated. I think it's an environmental issue.

Worms get into your system when you have the eggs on your hands and then put them to you mouth. So if you sneeze and cover your mouth you could be transferring them to your digestive system. Could be in hawker food? Could be on railings around your apartment complex? No idea why but they do seem to be everywhere. They're really annoying, but I don't think they're going to leave any lasting damage (although during pregnancy might be a different issue). They do also come and go on their own if you don't even treat them.

As soon as I moved back to Australia I did stop getting them.

*ah such fond memories!*
Honeymummy
relax kate789 surely if there was something wrong your anatomy scan would have picked it up..
soontobegran
QUOTE (kate789 @ 22/06/2011, 08:19 PM) *
Oh crap. I took some while preg, 1st trimester. Now 37 weeks. I had no idea it was so bad. Can anyone tell me what are the risks? What on earth have I done to my baby!!!


Most probably you have done no harm at all. original.gif The pharmacist says that it should be taken under the care of the doctor but if you read up about it there have been no birth defects that can be attributed to taking Combantrin. It is one of those 'unknown entities' thus the warning.
I am sure if you have had all your scans that have shown your baby to be developing normally then it is!
Just be careful in the future that you read the leaflet that is included inside all meds and double check it is OK for your situation.
Please don't stress!
s-m
I took Combantrin at 21w. I definitely had worms. GP checked with specialist at the hospital before giving me the green light to take it.

Steph
Mrs Manager
Ok, thanks - I will calm down now!
~Panda~
QUOTE (hab @ 22/06/2011, 06:36 PM) *
I could be wrong but I am sure I read that you should not take anything for worms when pg. Something about the cycle will just break itself and die out within 6 weeks with good hygiene and handwashing.
Wouldn't be a very comfortable 6 weeks however. I would definately check with your doctor before taking anything.


I heard that too. To keep washing bed linen, shower in mornings and night, change undies frequently, wash under fingernails etc. Then they should be gone within 4-6 weeks.

I have also heard of the raw garlic and raw carrot, too.
s-m
These ppl saying they will die out naturally in 6w... have you actually *had* worms??

Putting up with the itching all night every night for 6w would be absolute torture!!
duck-o-lah
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But will give you garlic breath. Amazing but true.

huh.gif I'm almost tempted to try that... Almost laughing2.gif

I remember reading about worms in pregnancy having an association with anaemia, probably worth checking with your pharmacist/GP original.gif Good luck.
Rhoxie
The worms the OP is talking about are Thread worms (just for anyone who is reading and hasn't yet encountered them.

Here is a bit about how you catch them (please note you do not catch them from animals.
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Although commonly associated with young children because of their close social interaction and inattention to personal hygiene, threadworms are very contagious and adults are just as susceptible to a rapid transfer of the infection. Threadworm infestations can quickly be spread through family groups or any collection of people, including day-care centres, schools and camps. This is why it is a good idea to treat all the members of the family if one member becomes infected with threadworms.

Contrary to popular belief, the threadworm only infects humans. Animals are only vulnerable to a distantly related species of this worm, one that does not infect humans. Household pets like cats and dogs are not part of the threadworm life cycle but they can be carriers if the eggs of the threadworm are transferred into their fur and hair.

There are two main ways that you can catch threadworm. The first is by direct contact with an infected person. The second is by coming into contact with an object or surface that has become contaminated through contact with an infected person. This could be anywhere, from a toilet seat, bedding, toys, kitchen bench, clothing, door handles, food or furniture. The eggs can even survive in swimming pools. Contracting threadworm is not something that is connected with a lack of personal hygiene but is an everyday hazard of communal living. Once the eggs lose their stickiness, catching threadworm can be as easy as breathing in the airborne eggs contained in household dust. The eggs can survive in external environments for about two to three weeks. Poor hygiene, however, can contribute to the spread of threadworm once you have contracted it. Threadworm eggs become infective within hour of being laid. The small eggs are quite difficult to see with the naked eye and stick to anything that they come into contact with. Invariably, the infected person's hands become contaminated with the eggs and they become widely dispersed
Bigmum
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Garlic suppository. Take one peeled garlic glove and put it up your bum. It's perfectly natural and will kill the worms.


as I munch on grated carrot with grated raw garlic, a garlic clove up the bum sounds fantastic!! Eating raw garlic isn't... sick.gif

Pharmacy is not happy to give me anything, and GP ordered me one dose (of normally a 5 dose medication) to "see how it goes".
I will ring my ob in the morning, but I am not happy with the gp's airy fairy advice.

Actually the worm here is called a pinworm...not sure if that is the same as aussies threadworm (looks the same from memory).

Thankyou all for sharing, I would be lost without your advice. all sigh for the eb "we saved another persons sanity" chant.....*sighhhhhhhhhhh.
macysmum
Pinworms and threadworms are the same thing biggrin.gif

I'd be going with the suppository too!
livingos
Petroleum Jelly/ Vaseline is the way to go.
Put around the anus and a little just inside for 3-4 days. This stops the worms coming out to lay their eggs and breaks the cycle.
Just used it on my toddler and it worked well.
HTH
All the best for the rest of your pregnancy.
NewMum99
QUOTE (Rhoxie @ 22/06/2011, 10:35 PM) *
The worms the OP is talking about are Thread worms (just for anyone who is reading and hasn't yet encountered them.

Here is a bit about how you catch them (please note you do not catch them from animals.


Really?? I was sure I caught them off our dog.
creepersgonnacreep
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Really?? I was sure I caught them off our dog.

they are tapeworms from dogs and are nasty things that can form cysts in your body. Sometimes people don't know until 20 years later and the cysts are big enough to be found very gross.
Bigmum
Thanks all for your advice and help, I just thought I would update and let you know the raw garlic and carrot went down a little rough, but worked a treat, combined with the garlic suppository.

since discovering mine, both dds were found to have them. Dh is now having tablets as a precaution.

Unsure how we got them, but I am forcing my children to wash their hands with soap EVERYWHERE lol! I have read good hygeine and regular washing can also help break them.

I recommend having this natural alternative as soon as you find out, and maybe follow up with medication if required.

My ob has told me that there is not enough information to say what may happen if I have the treatment, treatment in 100% necessary as they CAN harm the unborn baby by taking iron and nutrients. I can vouch for this as I was vomiting with diarea solidly all last week. Not I am treated I am back to normal and feeling really good.
lifehacker
Glad you got it sorted and are feeling better original.gif Sounds like a rough week.
caesie'n'linc
QUOTE (Bigmum @ 26/06/2011, 12:15 AM) *
Unsure how we got them, but I am forcing my children to wash their hands with soap EVERYWHERE lol! I have read good hygeine and regular washing can also help break them.

Glad to hear you got rid of the worms original.gif They are not fun at all & would be worse when pregnant...we battled them for 6mths a few yrs ago thanks to a family at DS1s daycare centre who didn't treat their children. I had them so bad that I could feel them moving around all over 'down there' at night ohmy.gif it had been so long since I'd dealt with them that it took me a while to realise what was causing my itching LOL

As well as good hygeine, a really good thing to do to help prevent catching them again would be to keep your kids fingernails cut really short. It's really hard to wash under nails without a little brush, but worm eggs can get caught under them then when the kids eat with what they think are clean hands they then eat the eggs & have worms again sad.gif
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