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new~mum~reenie
http://birthtraumatruths.wordpress.com/201...ight-emergency/

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Remember a year or so ago, when that QANTAS jet had a gaping hole in it and performed an emergency landing? The TV news footage showed the passengers arriving in Melbourne on another jet, and embracing their loved ones. Most were crying, some were shaking, and all were visibly affected by the experience.

Passengers told of the few minutes when they wondered if they would die, as the plane plummeted 19, 000 feet, their voices choked with emotion as they recalled their extreme fear, panic and anxiety. And I imagined these people going home with their families, who welcomed them at the airport with outstretched arms. They would likely be cosseted and fussed over, offered comforting food and drink, and their moments of terror openly listened to with shock and interest and appropriate “Oh My God’s” from listeners as they talked about their experience.

But would anyone say to them, “At least you didn’t die.”, and try to shoosh them up if they tried to talk about it? Would anyone tell them, “Well, I understand that plane trip didn’t go quite how you’d planned, but all’s well that end’s well, hey?”. Of course not. And would family understand if these people were a bit shaky for a while afterwards, and needed to feel safe? I’d say they would.

But imagine the same scene after a woman has a traumatic birth. Is there anyone waiting for her with outstretched arms? Generally not. Women after a traumatic birth are usually not cosseted and fussed over, or comforted beyond a perfunctory ‘there, there’.


This article may be helpful to many people out there - especially the ones with the "you/you're baby is still alive" attitude.
suline
I think this is an excellent analogy.
Nina's Mummy
Thanks for sharing.
If I had a dollar for every time someone told me 'at least you are still alive and have a beautiful baby' I would be one very rich woman.

Agh, SO annoying
*mylittleprince*
Wow, what a thought provoking piece. I had a traumatic birth and not once did any medical staff ask me if I were ok or explain what happened and why it happened. I felt like all power was taken away from me sad.gif I'm lucky that DS and I bonded straight away and I was able to breastfeed to 17.5 months but am still angry and upset about his birth.
ekbaby
Great article, thank u
CanberraCath
I think I will be forever haunted by DD's traumatic birth. I really struggle to celebrate her birthday because it reminds me so much of what happened - even though she was fine after 3 days in ICU. I got NO help from the hospital, and eventually after being diagnosed with PND got some help, but I had to to pay for all the counselling etc.

Damn straight its traumatic and should be adressed better! mad.gif
Nina's Mummy
I too get teary on DD's birthday and people just don't get it
Charlotte84
I had a traumatic birth with DD2 I can safely say I would never attribute it to the Qantas flight last year, nor any other near death experience and I do thank god my baby survived the birth and so did I.
3_for_me
But doesn't that speak more about peoples families? My second birth was so traumatic that I have very few memories of it as I've blocked them out and I've always found support after that from my husband and care providers.
Smyla80
I agree that traumatic birth should be dealt with better and that mothers should be given information, explanations and counselling if they'd like it.


But following my own experiences with DS's birth and the recovery I have actually found that being thankful that a) I'm still alive and b) that DS is with us has been therapeutic and allowed both myself and DF to heal emotionally.

I'm sure it doesn't work for everyone and I can only imagine that it would be hurtful to be told "At least you're alive" when you're not thinking the same thing but for me each time someone said that to me I stopped and either said or thought to myself "They're right. I am very lucky and I am so thankful. The alternative would have been catastrophic."
Nina's Mummy
I tried to block it out but it just made things worse
My family were absolutely amazing and DH is now but at the time, I got little support from him as he was going through his own issues from the trauma
LambChop
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But would anyone say to them, “At least you didn’t die.”, and try to shoosh them up if they tried to talk about it? Would anyone tell them, “Well, I understand that plane trip didn’t go quite how you’d planned, but all’s well that end’s well, hey?”. Of course not.


I think people would say these sorts of things in this scenario. I don't think the circumstances of a persons trauma changes the ability of the listener to know what that particular person is wanting as a response ?

I had PTSD after my traumatic first birth experience, still, I would rather that over say a plane crash trauma, because for me I would feel less relieved that it was 'over' (ie, no more babies now for me thanks!). Whereas my parents car crash 7 years ago (which wasn't even something that happened 'to' me) still crops up in my mind as an anxiety thought when I'm driving sometimes.

Everyone is different though, my experience isn't right/wrong compared to others, I can well understand that some people may feel invalidated through their horrific birth experience and struggling to put it to rest, it took me a long time to recover from my birthing experiences.
Bel Rowley
I had a traumatic birth experience with DS and came extremely close to losing him. However, the support I received from doctors, nurses and family members was fantastic. My obstetrician went far beyond the call of duty to make sure DH and I were emotionally OK immediately after the birth and in the following days, I had a counsellor come to see me about post traumatic stress and was given referrals to other counsellors if DH or I were not coping well with what happened. I couldn't have asked for better care.
iguana
I'm sorry I have to jump in here. I am a flight attendant and I have been in a couple of extremely traumatic air incidents. I can guarantee you that nearly every person that finds this out says to me, "Well it could have been worse, at least you didn't die!" People expect that because it is your job and you get paid for it that it shouldn't affect you, but it does, nothing compares to looking at 400 terrified faces in front of you and knowing it's your job to look after them.

It doesn't matter what traumatic experience you have, whether it be birth, car accident, natural disaster, medical illness etc. if the outcome isn't death people will try to give a positive spin and compare it to the worst case scenario. Perhaps it's a protection instinct.

As one of the PP said it does come down to family and your friends and how each individual copes. My sister had a traumatic birth and in the end lost her beautiful baby girl at full term, that is the worst case scenario. She would have a hundred traumatic births if she could have her baby girl back on this earth. And even after what she went through people said to her "At least you already have one child, and you can always have another." cry1.gif

Sorry for the rant.
gonewiththewind
I think there is a few things that some people don't quite get with trauma. We are all so different and you can have two people experience the same event and one will come out traumatised and the other one won't, so much depends on personality, resilience, support around the traumatic event etc.

Like Blondiebear, I had a 'traumatic' experience in my 3rd birth where I transferred to home for a PPH to hospital. Even though it was certainly 'traumatic', the support from my private midwife who came with me, my husband, kids and family, I was able to process it and not come out the other side worse off for it. Wind back to 13 yrs ago from my 1st birth which was an induction with lots of intervention, and unfortunately I did not fare as well as I was told I had such a 'textbook' birth from the midwives but felt vulnerable, exposed and out of control which continued for many years later in the form of PND. I have also found healing in my subsequent births from that trauma, especially my 3rd and 4th births, and I now see my 1st birth as a big learning experience and one which has shaped me and allowed me to grow and learn.

So it's not so much that a certain thing happened to a certain person and they fared fine or they didn't, it is about recognising that we are all individuals and that we need to allow each person the space and freedom to process their birth experiences in the way that they need to without trying to 'downplay' the experience in comparison with ours or others.

iguana That is so sad what was said to your sister sad.gif So insensitive!

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