Just when we were sitting back smuggly thinking how (relatively) easy the 2nd year was, Joel and Cam have turned into deaf/giggling/monsters almost overnight.
They are starting to ignore us completely because they are getting so much attention from each other (laughing/giggling etc) when they do something naughty-they think its halarious and when one is getting told off the other is rolling around on the floor laughing (literally!). They are totally a combined force and its getting really difficult to break through it to get their attention.

Any thoughts? They spend time in the 'corner' which has up till now always worked well-but they are getting so much reinforcement for the bad behaviour from each other that its becoming much less effective.

Someone please tell me its a phase!





Caz Joel and Cam at 2 1/2years old-now 3 years old

No, No, No, No....I don't want to know about this one LOL!!!

Not looking forward to this one happening!

Belinda

Oh can I commiserate with you too? LOL! I so agree with the whole ganging up comment. My three work in a tag team. And, my goodness loud?? It's hard to hear yourself think somedays! You sound like you're exactly where I'm at, and it's really hard isn't it?!!

just wanted to say

I FEEL YOUR PAIN !!!!!


we yell.. we shout.. we swear (under our breaths)

yet there is more of them then us so who wins.....

gee they are beautiful when they are asleep


good luck girls

kylie
ds Dylan 12.01
ds Blake 12.01
ds Corey 12.01
ds Kade 11.03

Wish I had some advice!!!
I'm sure you're probably trying all the right things. I'm trying to think of suggestions as I type this...

Our time out chair is around the corner from the lounge room so the other twin can't see or interact with his brother.
Also, maybe you could suggest a consequence that would impact on them both- like missing out on a trip to the playground or something.
Sorry, I'm scraping the bottom of the barrel!
Guess I can't really help but I just wanted to say that I hope it all improves. I'm sure it's just a phase!
Maycee

Maycee (35)
DH (33)
Twin boys (4/12/01)
DD (7/10/03)

Thanks for all the replies-once again Im glad to see Im not alone!

We've started on a 'one strike and youre out' routine-one warning then we mean buisiness!....seems to be working (a bit...sort of...)

Megan-Joel and Cam go to daycare 2 days a week so we'll keep them there (rather than a couple of hours here and there at kinder)=they have a kinder teacher at the centre theyre at (also Joel has some serious food allergies so its easier-and safer-to keep him where they know what he can and cant have to eat).

Thanks again everyone!



Caz Joel and Cam at 2 1/2years old-now 3 years old

Oh I relate too well to this one! My two are whirlwinds and I can not keep up! They are definately winning and I am a wreck!

I too am at a loss as which way to go. They are only now starting to respond to the "naughty room" idea at home, although at daycare they are quite ok with the naughty wall our FDC Mum uses ( and always tell me when their brother has had to sit near it! LOL!). They get smacks and laugh and say "that didn't hurt". The best way I have found at the moment is to confiscate toys. They hate that!

Mind you they then make up their own fun and Oh it is scary what two little heads come up with. Last weekend they wore us out with their naughty behaviour AND THEN the next door neighbour knocked on the front door to tell me they had thrown rocks (bigger than oranges he said - although how they could throw rocks that big over a 6 foot fence I don't know!) over the fence to where his very flash car is normally parked. Thank god it wasnt but he was very angry (as he is jusified in being I have to add). I was irate with them. They knew they were in trouble and went straght to their room and didn't even try to come out for an hour. (mind you I think they were a bit scared by my sobbing as I tried to work out where to sell the two naughtiest Boys in the world!). Arrggggg!!!!!!!!!

SO no solutions but it is reassuring to know I am not the only one!



Jo, Mummy to Cameron and Joshua 21/06/01

Megan, maybe we need to go shopping together - we can give each other strength as we feel the burning eyes of everyone in the centre

Did I ever say how easy I thought baby twins were? These preschool/late toddlers do my head in! Lucky they do something so cute every now and then that they make you forgive some of the nasty stuff.

Jo2+2<BR>Rachel - born still 21/11/00 (23 weeks)<BR>Matthew & Erin 7/11/01<P><BR>

OMG! I feel all you ladies are writing from seeing my 2,..... but they aren't 2 yet! I even resorted to calling the parentline for help this week. They laugh at me when they get in trouble and go stright back to what they were doing to get the time out in the first place!
My day care mum has given me a tip though that does seem to be getting through to them. After the time out for, saying turning the TV off/on constantly, I take them back to the TV and say "Do it again and see what happens" giving them the eye and tone of seriousness. Today for a few times it worked and they said nooo and gave me a sorry hug.

We'll see what tomorow brings and if anything works then!


Letitia 34
Dan 34
Georgia 7
Hamish 4
Xander 23mths
Noah 23mths
(plus angels Jesse, Dale and Matilda)

hi again

we have a naughty mat that they take turns as a game to get in trouble and put eachother on the mat :|

i try to follow the " naughty boy lady " but my firm tone is
NOOOO GO TO THE NAUGHTY MAT NOW!!!!

they of course sit right at the edge of the mat and what should be 3.5 minutes of sitting and reflecting on bad behaviour turns into 20 minutes of me trying to get some authority happening....

what is it with 3 yr olds???? and from what i'm reading 4 dont seem much brighter

thats right we have kindy YEAH!!!

Quote from new kindy reception lady
" wow you have triplets ".. my response..
" yep and you have them next year "

goodluck girls (getting through the weekend) haha

kylie
ds Dylan 12.01
ds Blake 12.01
ds Corey 12.01
ds Kade 11.03

Kylie you just gave me a really good giggle. Thanks for that!! *hehehe*

xxx Renee, who is still chuckling at that comment!

Jo-my two are into throwing stones at the moment too-Cam threw a heap of stones at a ladies car the other day while she was chatting to DH about how gorgeous our twins were and how well they were playing together..URRRG! Honestly theyre becoming like those kids you see in the park that you think..'how feral are they?-everyone knows the ones!-one's starting to spend a lot of time sitting in the car at various intervals whilst the other one still plays in the park.....then they swap places!

DH took the boys to the local footy the other day and had his back turned for a few moments....a child of about 7yrs came up to his dad saying...the kids over there are throwing stones...dh' looks over to find J&C throwing stones are anyone who dared walk past their general direction...needless to say they both came straight home.

Having said that...today they were the most perfect angels-they played with their female cousin who's 7months younger (but very petite and tiny compared to my two) they spent all day taking turns at holding her drink bottle so she could have a drink (so she didnt have to use her hands!) and reading her stories and generally doting on her and being the gentlest I think I have seen them for a long time.



Caz Joel and Cam at 2 1/2years old-now 3 years old

Hi ladies...

I don't have twins (or children for that matter but we're trying) but I experienced a similar issue with twins whilst I was working in daycare.

The way we had to handle them was to actually punish them by seperating them... We had time out chairs in seperate rooms. They hated being seperated from eachother and more often than not this worked.

Stern voices, an angry look and a lot of force...

It's different in a daycare situation of course but I thought I might mention it as an option. These 2 girls were 3...


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