Hi Nee,

Just wanted to see how you were getting on in the TT department.

I hadn't fully committed yet, and began to find it a little frustrating and more of a game to I stopped a couple of weeks ago. I have new enthusiasm and am going full steam ahead again tomorrow.

How is the bed thing going for you too? We are still in cots and are happily staying there for a while!

Sorry to bombard with questions, but like you said, we are almost at the same stages.

Cheers


Kate
Alicia and Sophie 2/12/02

Kate,

Are you really serious about your girls still in the cot??

My 2 completely wrecked theirs & they were the cots that you sleep in until 4 yrs old.

As for my 2 & their TT we are just waiting until they get a little bigger & older. The signs are still there but they still aren't speaking although they do understand what we say.

Sure am Maree, they ain't going no where fast!!

Can't believe that they destroyed theirs!! How are they going in beds, do they get out much?

Kate
Alicia and Sophie 2/12/02

Bump.

Kate
Alicia and Sophie 2/12/02

Oh Kate,

I feel terrible I totally missed this thread!!!! I'm very much like you I just couldn't stand the thought of it, it was way to hard so I gave up! We are going to try when DH is home after the new baby arrives. (Yes I know you're not supposed to introduce new things when there's a new addition to the household....but I need the support! - he has 6 weeks off from work)

We have been having the occasional success when they ask to sit on the potty but it's a very infrequent thing. Monique will always ask when she needs to do a poo, so I sit her on and she does nothing, then half an hour later she will dirty her nappy.

And regarding the beds! You are a very very wise woman lol!! I wish I had kept mine in cots for longer, not that we were able to because they were climbing out. I'm having success during the day at getting them off to sleep quicky, but night time is horrendous. They still think it's a game. It's been 4 months now since they moved into beds and I just can't believe they STILL haven't got it!

How are you going with the renewed energy for the TT'ing?? If you have any advice or ideas for me....I'll gratefully take them.

xxx

Hi Nee,

Thanks for replying, I was beginning to worry about you :-)

The day after I posted, I put them in undies for a bit in the morning, then a pull up each as we had to do the superamarket shopping. The way that I get them through the shopping without too much fuss is by giving them fruit boxes. Needless to say Alicia had a wet nappy, but surprisingly Sophie didn't. Cool. We made it back home. After that they played outside with no pants on and the potty right near by. After about 5 puddles of wee and one poo all within about 3 meters of the potty I put nappies back on, and they have stayed on since. Surely it cant be THAT hard. We have a shack at the river, so I think I might persue it up there over Easter, like you, with more support!!

Alicia had landed one wee in the potty and one in the toilet, but that's it ... so.... I have no tips whatsover.... anyone else out there help us?

Hope the bed thing improves for you, and I hope that my girls don't learn to climb out any time before they are 18 or so!!!

Thanks again for the chat!!

Cheers

Kate
Alicia and Sophie 2/12/02

Edited for lack of proof reading.



This message was edited by KateTwinMum on Thursday, 3 March 2005 @ 8:36 PM

I have totally no expereince of this as a parent - but as a preschool teacher and remembering all the theory (which is always very nice in theory but not so great in real life!)... so take or leave this info as you see fit!

I think that if Monique is telling you she needs to poo but going after you sit her on the potty she has not quite developed enough to understand the sensations and figure when she needs to go. Sounds like she is almost there but not quite and it's a physical/cognitve understand thing rather than a behavioural thing - ie she's not just too busy, can't be bothered or is just trying to drive you nuts!

As for lots of accidents - do they realise they are doing a wee or poo while they are actually doing it? Or even afterwards? They might not say anything but do they stop what they are doing while they wee and maybe look? This would give you a clue as to whether they are connecting the physical sensation with the action or whether they are still oblivious to it all. If they are aware of doing a wee then the more time they spend with no pants/nappy will help them connect more with the feelings and eventually they will be able to recognise the feeling of being about to wee before they actually wee this is when you'll have a good chance at getting some in the potty. That doesn't mean you have to do it all the time, and there is no point if it is stressing you out - so when you both have some time and support then give it another try.

You know from what I've seen working in child care and preschool most kids will toilet train of their own accord even if you do little to encourage it. So don't stress too much it will happen one day and it sounds like you are all doing a good job!

But as I say... this is not someone speaking from personal parenting experience to remind me to eat my words when I am in your shoes in a year or two!

Kate

Hi Kate,

Thanks for the input, it really does help. I do admire you pre school teachers, I find it hard enough looking after 2, let alone a whole bunch of others that aren't even your own, and by choice!! :-)

The girls do know when they have done something, and will come and tell me straight away that they have had an accident, they even tell me when they have done a wee with their nappy (most of the time). I just can't get them to connect the whole scenario with the potty or toilet. I know that the TT will just come and it will be another transition. Just like when I thought that they would never ever get the hang of drinking out of a cup - just a natural progression right?!

Y'know how us Mums over react that think that their kid is going to be the only one wearing nappies at 15!!

Might leave it until that I am feeling that it less of an "issue" for me.

Thanks again Kate!!

Cheers


Kate
Alicia and Sophie 2/12/02



This message was edited by KateTwinMum on Friday, 4 March 2005 @ 1:26 PM

Kate - I think it's perfectly reasonable for us to expect a bit of support when it comes to toilet training. There is certainly no way I can get my head around toilet training three at once! My guys no when they are wet or dirty too. Steph has just started saying "wet pants" to me when she is wet, so I think she has the awareness. They also watch us when we go to the toilet and they say mummy wees etc, so I think they are beginning to register!

Katef - As usual some very good advice from you!! Can't I just send my three over to you for tt'ing?? PLEEEEEEEEAAAAAASSSSSSEEEEEEEEEEEEEe!!!

Maybe I can be like the sleep school people that come to your house but just do it for toilet training! I seem to have lots of success TTing other people's kids but you can bet my girls will give me hell when it comes to their turn!

And you know I think anyone who copes with x2 of any childhood stage 24 hours a day 7 days a week is amazing, let alone x3 of any of it - I reckon x1 of it all would be hard enough! Working with kids is easy because you know your shift is only 8 hours long and then you get to go home! Plus you not quite so emotionally attached to the kids you teach not to mention that lovely mother's guilt you get with your own!

Sounds to me like all ouf your little cherubs are well on the way to making the right connections and just around the corner from being able to know they need to go before they anctually go! Also sounds to me like they are VERY lucky to have such wonderful Mums who are doing all the right things!

But I Kate I know what you mean - you may feel like your girls will never TT and I'm stuck thinking my girls won't walk until they are at highschool! But surely it won't be the case for either of us! Surely!

hugs

Kate