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Ali

Hi Girls,

Princess piggy: Sorry you are feeling yuk. You and I sound like we are in a similar place right now. My nausea is not too bad, still a big drag but not as bad as it was in my last pg's but out of no where I have started to gag and dry wretch. I feel the sensation coming on and can't stop it. It happens even though the nausea is more mild than it has been and happens quite a few times each day. The trigger seems to be the smell of something or even just the thought of something. I cant understand how just thinking about putting on a piece of clothing or a pair of shoes makes me feel sick and gag but it does. I was in tears the other day because the thought of putting on my clothes made me feel sick. Very strange. I have also been fighting with DH. Just now we had an argument that has left me in tears. He is going shopping and wanted to know what I feel like eating for lunch and tea today and tomorrow. I said that I did not know what I felt like and he said "well that makes it hard, how am i supposed to know what to buy?" I said that he should just get what he thinks him and the kids would want and he said " Well when I do that you get upset because it is not something you want to eat and then i have to go back and buy something else for you later" I broke down and told him that after 5 pg's I would think he should understand how this bloody thing works by now. How am I supposed to know what i feel like eating tomorrow night when I don't feel like eating right now? He made me feel like I was being difficult and when he said ' I am sorry but it is so hard what am I meant to do just walk around the shop and try and guess what you will feel like' I lost it. I told him how sorry I was for making it hard on him, I wish that i could be the one in his shoes for a while and let him walk in mine for a week or two. God, I know it must be frustrating for him but what i wouldn't give for all of this to end right now and I don't know if he will ever truly understand that. I just keep telling myself "NEVER AGAIN". Everyday is bringing me closer to never having to do this again.

We told my parents about the pg. Dad was excited and thought it would be great for baby DS to have a sibling his age to play with. Mum was ok but is no where near as excited or as supportive as she was with the others. I am hiding from her how I am feeling because she was against me doing this again and I don't want to hear "I told you so"

Peppernickel: So sorry you are back in hosp, and all is not improving. I think it is cruel for them to put you in the maternity ward. The last thing you need is to hear newborns screaming all day and night. I agree with pp, you are brave to be still hanging in there. I just do not know how you are doing it.

Serenzy: yay for a Zofran free day. Glad that you could go out and enjoy a meal with your family. Hopefully you are nearing the end.

Chedasha: Sorry to hear that you are still battling with the hg. It would be nice to think that all who suffer from hg would at the very least get a few months free of it so that they could enjoy at least some part of their pg.

AFM: Had my appt on Friday. The midwives that I saw were very nice which made me feel better. I discussed my emotions with them and they were so understanding. They have referred me to a mental health midwife who will ring me for a chat soon. I really think that my emotional state is causing me as much despair as the nausea is so it will be nice to have someone who I can chat honestly with. They also put me 3 days ahead of what I thought I was so instead of being 11wks3days today I am 11wks6days. I was so happy just to get those extra 3 days knocked off but I am also booked in for a scan on Wed so will probably get time added after that, knowing my luck.

The weekend was ok. DH took DS1 to the clipsal motor racing and both DD's went out with a friend so I was home alone all day with DS2. It was nice to spend time with him but it nearly killed me, i was so tired by the time DH came home.

I have written an essay again so will go now, Big hugs to you all xx

memmie: Sorry I forgot to add that I am probably doing such a bad job at staying distracted this time around. That is probably why the days are going so slowly. I do have the kids to keep me distracted a bit but I am finding that coping with them is a little hard at the moment. I try to watch TV but if I have been nauseated when watching a tv show once then I can not bear to watch it again because the thought of it makes me feel ill. I am too scared to go too far from home in case something triggers off the nausea. I find that time passes quicker when I sleep so I go to bed early and sleep. I did have my DD 16th birthday a week ago so that helped pass the time a bit. I know I should be doing something to keep busy but apart from coming here I don't know what else to do because everything then gets associated with feeling ill. This association thing, the sight, the feel just the idea of something is new to this pg. I have has the smell thing before but not the other things and I am finding this hard to cope with.

XX

Luvbngamum
i remember the whole shopping "what do you feel like eating" thing being an issue with us too. i had half eaten and half empty packets of all different things in the pantry and fridge because you feel like something , eat a bit, vomit it up and then never want it again DH was at the shops everyday buying something different

i know you probably dont want to hear this but HG is hard on the partners too. I cant imagine how awful it would be seeing someone i love be sick and miserable day in day out for months, and they have to take on so much extra work around the house..well nearly everything really. Im sure when he says things like that that seem insensitive, it is really because he is stressed and worried about you. HG puts such a strain on the relationship. I understand your frustrations though. Would be nice if our partners could walk in HG shoes for a few days to really understand it!!

hang in there

Serenzy,
Great news you were Zofran free for a day!! what a great feeling that is

hugs to all

Luvbngamum - sorry to hear of your fight with DH. I have had similar with mine although it has been more to do with him wanting/needing to eat when I was at home when just knowing the fridge or cupboard were opening would start everything. I have been amazed at the things that can trigger vomiting fits - never knew it would be the case.

Hi to everyone else - feeling too crappy to go look at other thread.

AFM - I am still sick, tired of having the meds continually changed for no difference & just tired of everything. I want this pregnancy over now & am so p*ssed off that I am at a point where that can't happen unless something goes wrong & so sick of being told by my psychologist & psychiatrist that ending the pregnancy would only end up causing a lot more harm to my state of mind then going through however many more weeks of hell there is. wanted to say thanks to those who suggested the something to block noise - we got something to try but that sensation of not hearing anything was just as bad. Really can't win.

Hi Peppanickel - Yes, you're in an impossible position. You're in a living hell now, but if you terminated, you would just be going to a different type of hell. Take it from someone who has been there. It's been over a year since my termination and I still struggle. I'm only now getting to the point where I feel it's ok to be happy and move on, even though the sadness and guilt will stay with me for the rest of my life. In any case, like you say, termination is no longer an option for you as you're too far along. I hope and pray you'll get some respite from the worst of it within the next few weeks.

Luvbngamum - I hope you and your DH have made up now. He does sound like he's supportive. I remember my DH getting mad one day, saying, why didn't you organise a nanny or cleaner or something - I can't do everything! And I just sat in the corner and cried. A hg'er has no energy to fight! He said sorry afterwards. That's why I'm thinking of getting an au pair if I try again - even if it's more than I need, I'd rather be overprepared. I just wish my parents lived closer.

Serenzy and Chedasha - Fingers crossed you are nearing the end of the worst of it. And then you can get really excited about your new bubs. Whenever i see newborns, I get teary. There is nothing more precious.

Bettymm - how are you going? Are you eating lots while you can? I've been going to the gym because I want to be as healthy as possible, but I don't want to lose weight.

Hi Girls,

Dh and I are fine, we have been through this 4 times before and come through it in the end. It is very hard at the moment though, everything makes me feel ill. Smells, the look of something, the thought of something, everything. Just the thought of DH coming to bed at night makes me feel sick. The thought of going into the toilet, having a shower, not having a shower, putting clean sheets on the bed.....Bloody everything. That is new to my hg experience. I have had the smell thing before with each pg but never the other stuff. DH is supportive, very supportive and I know he is very tired and worried about me. He also feels very guilty because it was he who wanted this baby and talked me into it and now he feels guilty about that and is particularly worried about my emotional state. I just want to be able to lie with him and cuddle him but that can't happen as I can't bear the though of him touching me right now. He is very quiet today but we will get there. Would love to trade places with him right now though.

Bettymm: LOL about the half eaten stuff, I have packets and boxes of half eaten stuff everywhere too. My DH also has a habit of buying lots of what I manage to successfully eat or drink once. I felt like a glass of apple juice the other day and managed to enjoy it so DH went and bought 3 two litre bottles of it the next time he was at the shop. I only wanted that one glass so now the kids are stuck with apple juice for the next couple of weeks. He has also bought boxes of salada biscuits, grapes by the bucket load, heaps of lemon cordial that i went off weeks ago. It is hard for him to understand that just because I feel like it once does not mean I will want to eat it for the next week.

peppernickel: hugs to you.....I just can't imagine how you must be feeling. It is so sad that your right to choose what happens to you was taken away. I just hope that when this is all over and your babies are born everything will be ok. Know that i am thinking of you.

memmie: Your idea of an au pair sounds great. I do not have any support, other than DH and the kids. My best friend is great but is a single mum to 3 boys and works full time, my inlaws live a hour away and have five sons all with families so divide time equally. My Mum was against me getting pg in the first place, because of my previous experiences with hg. I am hiding form her how I am truly feeling because I do not want to hear "I told you so". She would also worry herself sick about everything. Part of my emotional state is due to the fact that I feel very alone this time around. Last time Mum was here more and DH was home more too, this time I feel alone.

I hope everyone is having an ok day today. I have my NT scan tomorrow, it will be the first scan I have had this pg so maybe that will help me feel something for this baby.

hugs xx

Peppanickel I really hope it eases for you soon it really is hell.
Lvngbeingmum things trigger me as well and make me feel ill.

I found out today I have gestational diabetes ffs just what I need heaps of appointment s and the whole have to eat certain foods which as you all know is hard when you only tolerate certain foods.

Peppanickel, I really hope things ease off for you soon. It's a shame that blocking the noise didn't help.

Chedasha, what a pain! And how frustrating with HG on top of it, I hope it isn't too tricky for you to manage.

Luvbngamum, how did your NT scan go??

bettymm, we have the same half empty packets of food in our fridge and cupboards! Whatever gets us through, though.

AFM, I managed a few days without Zofran but ended up not being able to keep anything down for two days. I went to my GP and she thinks I have a virus on top of my HG, so back to taking Zofran. Feeling a bit more human today but still have the constant nausea, and so so so exhausted.

Hi all,

Chedasha: Gee that is just what you need, it is just not fair, isn't HG enough to deal with?

Serenzy: Sorry that your Zofran free streak came to an end. I keep hoping that you will be free of the HG. It gives some hope when one of us finally gets over it although that does not really seem to be happening at the moment. It seems as though it is hanging around for everyone. I keep hoping I will wake up one day feeling energetic and nausea free.

AFM: My NT scan yesterday went well. The nuchal measurement was under 1 mm and there was a nasal bone present. I am just waiting on the blood test results now which should come in 2-3 days. I have an appt. with the OB on Monday to get the results if they haven't been phoned to me earlier. I had hoped that seing the baby would jolt me out of my depressed mood but it hasn't really. I was surprised to see a baby on the screen, somehow I thought I might just see nothing. DH was very excited. I was glad everything looked ok but kind of just felt numb. This is so upsetting for me as I have never felt this way before. i desperately want to feel excitement or love but just can't right now. I had hoped that my Mum would ring to see how it all went but she didn't. Does not help that she is not really excited for us. I really need her right now. Never mind, soon it will all be a distant memory and life will be normal again.

Love and hugs to you all xx

chedasha
so sorry to hear about the GD disgnosis. That is really not what you need, but its important you know about it and manage it properly. Take care of yourself!

Luvbngamum
thats great the scan went well, its always a relief isnt it?
sorry to hear your mum hasnt been a great support to you. Have you tried talking to her about it?
dont worry about not having those lovey feelings and excitment, you are still early on and im sure when you will start to feel it when you are not feeling so sick. that baby is going to have lots of love when it enters the world from not only you guys but all the siblings!! how lovely.

Memmie, im going ok thanks, im trying to eat well in preperation for the pregnancy but not overdoing it as i already have an extra 6 kgs that i never lost from the previous pregnancy!! so i feel have some fat "reserves" i was only 54 kg when i got pregnant last time and rapidly lost 8 kgs in the first 15 weeks! so i feel a bit better that i have a bit more meat on my bones now.

Serenzy, so sorry your zofran free run ended. but hopefully as time goes on you will hav emore of the good days than bad!

hugs to all xx

it sucks,my herbal drops now dont work,im getting headaches non stop.
though ive discovered powerade is it quite good and my mums dr told her i can come to his practice and get a drip there instead of hospital.

its causing issues at the moment for me and poor hubby as ive got no energy to do housework these days or cook.

Hi everyone
The obs I used last pregnant is no longer practicing and I was hoping someone from Brisbane may be able to recommend a obs that has experience in dealing with HG


Thanks in advance

is it wrong to be thinking that I am now less than 7 weeks away from forcing these babies out even though that would mean a tough ride for them to survive? I've had enough

No Peppanickel, I don't think that's wrong at all. Because in 7 weeks, what will probably happen is that you will be feeling better, even if it's only marginally, and that help you to get through as many more weeks as you can. But, if in 7 weeks, you're still as sick as you are now, at least the doctors have the option of inducing.

So focus on that 7 weeks only. Start counting them down. It's got to be less daunting than the endless weeks you were faced with before.

Hi Girls,

Peppernickel: I do not think that you feeling the way you do is wrong at all. Gee!! I am counting down the days and I have been no where as sick as you. Babies are born very early all of the time, for a variety of reasons. It is completely understandable that you want this over right now. Our nephew was born at 24 weeks, he weighed 560gms. It was an ordeal so I will not make light of it but he is now a healthy 11 year old. If it comes to it and you are struggling to survive then it may be what is for the best. At least then you will have time to recover physically and emotionally before you bring your babies home and they would get a happier, healthier Mummy. I don't think that your medical team would suggest bringing the babies on unless they were hopeful they could survive. Lets see how it goes for the next seven weeks. It would be lovely to think you will be feeling better but if not, I for one will be here to support any decision you make.

camarli: Sorry I am from Adelaide so am no help to you. One of the ladies that pops in here is from Brisbane so she may be able to help.

Hope everyone else is fine and that HG is easing for at least some of us.

AFM; Went to my appt. yesterday with the ob to get results from NT scan and blood test. All up they have put my risk of Down Syndrome at 1 in 464. They are pretty good odds considering my age and the fact that our DS has Down syndrome. I think we will now skip any further testing and see what happens. The OB was concerned that I was so dry. My BP was 75/50 and I have lost 7 kg so he wants to see me in two weeks. If the nausea is no better and I have not been drinking more he plans to put me in on IV fluids. I can not bear the thought of being in hosp and leaving my kids at home so am trying to drink more. My DH has taken this week off work as I had such a bad week last week. I was so emotional and so nauseated, even the acupuncture did little to help. One day at a time. I am now 12 weeks 4 days, surely things need to start to improve soon. Also have a cold and terrible cold sores on my mouth. I looked in the mirror yesterday and could not believe it was me i was looking at. I look horrid. Have not had my hair done in ages, big dark circles under my eyes and very dry, pale skin. Yuk.....

hugs to you all, Hope everyone is ok. xx

Luvbngamum

First of all, thats great news all is going well with the baby! thats great to hear. I really think that you should take your OB's advice and go into the hospital for some IV fluids, it will make you feel ALOT better and may even help ease the nausea for a while. I went into hospital 3 times for IV hydration, sometimes 3 litres at a time! and always felt a lot better afterwards. Dehyration feeds the HG.

You should be able to do this as an outpatient though? i did. was in and out in a few hours. Your low BP and your apperance definately indicate dehyration. Look after yourself hun,

Peppanickel, You have done so well to get as far along as you have and i really hope you get some relief soon! thinking of you

Hope everyone else is going ok
hugs x

Peppanickel, I keep hoping to hear your HG has turned a corner. Thinking of you.

Luvbngamum, I'd be going to the ED to get fluids. As bettymm said, dehydration makes your HG so much worse and you'll feel even a bit better by having a couple of litres pumped into you.

AFM, still sick but trying to be positive about it all since this is my last pregnancy.

Serenzy
hope the IV fluids gives you some relief, im sure it will. And good on you for trying to keep positive, I know hard that is. You will be through this and out the other side very soon.

x

sorry Serenzy, i misread your post as YOU were going to get IVs! silly me.
Hope you are not a that point.
take care

Hi Girls,

I think I will take the advice and go to the hosp to get some fluids pumped in. I feel so tired and dry all of the time. Getting quite dizzy on an off because of the low BP. I am eating ok but just can not manage to drink enough.

My DH is home this week so might head in when we pick the kids up from school. I am just so worried that they will want to keep me there. I can not stand the thought of being away from the kids, particularly baby DS who is already having a hard time understanding why his Mummy is not spending enough time with him.

brissymumof2: So sorry you are not feeling good. I am also sorry that you and DH are having issues. It is hard for our DH. They have to work and take on more around the house. My DH does all the cooking at the moment and cleans what he can, cares for the four kids in the morning taking the eldest 3 to school and looking after baby DS most of the day. Then at 3pm he heads off to work and does not get home until midnight. I know he has a lot on his plate too but I would trade places with him in a flash if I could. Just to feel normal again for even a day would be wonderful. I think our DH's have no way of possibly understanding what we are going through, how can you imagine what it is like to be sick 24/7, emotional, exhausted. There is no way you can know what that does to you without having been there. Hang in there. You will both get through this. Our house looks like a bomb has hit but I am so over worrying about all of that right now. As long as the kids are fed and cared for, that is all that matters.

Hope everyone is ok. Today is my last day of ever being pregnant in the first trimester, second trimester here I come......xx

i am sure this wont be a problem, the main issue i found is that doctors didnt take the condition seriously enough! a few times i presented at ER and wasnt even examined by a doctor, just given a hydration ice block by the nurses and sent on my way home. The times i was actually examined and given IV's i was still sent on my merry way as soon as my BP raised slightly. I felt like as soon as i said i was pregnant and sick it was considered "just morning sickness" anad not a priority. Besides, its always your choice how long you stay and what treatment you recieve , if you dont want to stay for more treatment they cant force you to. But a good dose of IV fluids will do you the world of good!

take care x

Hi everyone,

Ive just signed up to EB because i simply cannot take it anymore. I need to vent and not to the people that tell me 'just eat a dry biscuit, drink some flat lemonade'... you know what? it doesn't work. Ive got a bit of a story behind me, and i dont mind if i get no replies, but all i want to do is talk.

I am turning 23 next week, im married and i have a beautiful little girl who is 16 months old. This would all be fine if i wasnt still suffering bad post natal from having her and 15 weeks pregnant now. I had severe hyperemisis and anemia with her pregnancy and swore never to go there again. It changed me. Ill admit im not always the most positive person, but after expereince this sickness for 9 months, i ended up with this perfect little thing, that i couldnt even bring myself to look at. i resented her, i didnt want it to be like that, i wanted to be that perfect mother who loved their baby instantly. but 16 months later i still have trouble bonding with her.

but now like i said im 15 weeks pregnant (after much persuading from DH, begging me to go through it just once more) and again, sever hyperemisis. been to the emergency department 3 times already for an IV and maxalon and ondansetron injections. I did 6 times last pregnancy. and who knows how many times it will end up being this time. it helps, but wares off. ive found a combination of ondansetron wafers that dissolve under the tongue, and stematil suppositries (sorry if to much info, but they absorb within 15 minutes without having to swallow anything). I see a doctor/midwife every week at the hospital because of the high risk stuff and because of my mental state. I'm hurting. I'm torn between lying on the bathroom floor unable to move without vomiting, and my little girl. I turn around to see her standing in the door way crying 'mumma' looking absolutely petrified, i would have thought she would get use to me being sick, but she hates it, she doesn't understand and i try to tell her between the dry reaching and the vomit 'mummy's okay', but even i don't believe it. my poor little girl. she goes to creche 2 days a week and atleast i know she loves that, and she gets away from the noise and the atmosphere of depression and sickness.

im in counselling every week to try and get my head around it all but i cant. because i dont know anyone with hyperemsis it feels like i am the only one on earth going through it. i know im not but these hormones are ridiculous. i think ive finally found a word for it today, i feel 'trapped'. this baby is owning me, and im already feeling those bad unwanted feelings towards bub, rationally i know its not its fault, and i want to keep going, this is a planned pregnancy, but irrationally, i cant take it and I'm upset and mad and scared.

I just cant believe i forgot how bad this could be. I didn't account for having to look after a toddler while being sick, that made last time easier that it was just me. And cooking, and cleaning, it just becomes impossible to lead a even remotely normal life. My husband works full time and does what he can but im basically incapable of anything, even typing so much makes me sick.

I have to try and remember life will return to normal. but how can you do that when everything is so crazy. If you have managed to get to the end of this, thankyou!

if anyone, can say anything, to put me in a better mindset, id appreciate your time. why is pregnancy so long? i feel like there is so far to go. 15 weeks down, thats it.

Mixie88
first of all. congratulations on your pregnancy!!

Im so sorry to hear you are suffering, its awful and i can imagine so much worse when you have a little one watching you go through this.
All of those feelings that youre having are completely normal and understandable for someone suffering HG, we all feel this at some point! just read through previous posts.
I think all you can do is just look after yourself as best you can, take one day at a time and keep in mind that it WILL end. Its great youre seeing a counsellor, keep talking it through, it will help. I wish i had done this. I found i just didnt have the strength to even find a counsellor.
Keep in touch with us on this forum to vent and talk with people who do understand what youre going through. There IS a community of us, hard as it is to believe as it feels like we feel so isolated with HG.
There is also another website http://www.helpher.org/ that is fabulous. A very large on line community of HG sufferers, i found this very helpful.

Soon enough you will have another perfect little bub in your arms and be thinking how it all WAS worth it after all.
take care

Hi Mixie88,
Don't spend one second feeling guilty for struggling. HG is a physical and mental battle every day. You ask people to imagine what it would be like to have gastro for weeks and weeks on end, and they just can't because they haven't experienced it. I had a friend of mine recently go through 2 days of gastro and she was complaining that she 'felt like she was going to die' and I desperately wanted her to say, 'now I can see why you suffered so much'. But she didn't. It was like they still think HG is just 'quesiness'. Mixie88, I actually terminated a HG pregnancy at 11 weeks, so you have my admiration for sticking with it. You've done well to get to 15 weeks. And the fact that you make the effort to say to your daughter, 'Mummy's Ok', while your throwing up, shows me that you are a great Mum. And I wouldn't be so sure that your house has an atmosphere of 'depression and sickness'. It does for you, but remember, she doesn't feel sick and she has her toys and her family that loves her, so she'll be fine.

Any chance you can get some more practical help so that at least you don't have to worry about cooking/cleaning? Hire someone if you can afford it.

Come to this forum as often as you can to let us know how you're going.

Hi Girls,

Mixie88: I really feel for you. I am in the place where you are too, 13 weeks 3days pg with hg and a 16 month old baby boy (plus 3 older children) to care for. Hg is hell. i have had it in some form or another will each of my five pg's. The initial pg was the easiest to deal with, probably because it was my first and I was much younger when pg the first time. It became increasingly worse with each pg. My 4th pg was by far the worst for me, I was so ill I felt like I was going to die. i too was sick and tired of being told to eat a dry cracker or drink ginger tea. My 3 children were older so they understood but it was still hard, I felt alone and like life was going on without me, I missed my kids and i missed being normal. It did end and I gave birth to our beautiful baby. The HG left scars though, I didn't realize how deep those scars were until we began thinking of having one final baby to add to our family, someone who our baby son could grow with. The mere thought of being pg again caused me to begin having panic attacks and I feel into a real depression. I thought having another baby was the right thing to do for our family, especially our son but being pg was not right for me and I was so torn. I did get pg and this time I was better prepared with meds and diet and began acupuncture straight away. The nausea and vomiting has been better than it was with my last pg but my emotional state is terrible. I keep feeling like this pg was a huge mistake, I resent DH for being able to have kids without having to get the HG, I feel so torn between doing what is best for our baby son and what is best for me. He is the same age as your DD and his life has been changed too. He does not have the same loving, Happy mummy that he had a few months ago, I am tired, sick and depressed and he knows that something is different about me and that is killing me.

I find that the acupuncture has helped me somewhat. It had a greater effect initially but is having less of an effect now but I would hate to think how bad i would be without it. I try to force myself to eat protein rich snacks like almonds or cheese because high protein foods do decrease nausea and vomiting. Some days are easier than others but for the most part I feel like curling up in bed and staying there until October arrives. My kids are the only reason I get out of bed in the morning.

I, like you, feel like life will never be normal again but I know deep down that we will get through this. I keep telling myself "short term pain for long term gain" It is what I say to myself over and over. I know I will be sitting in the garden watching my kids play together oneday and know it was all worth it. It is easy to lose sight of that right now though.

You say that you have not bonded with your daughter but I think you are under estimating your love for her. Most of your post expressed how concerned you are for her. It is hard now but kids are resilient and she will get through this without even remembering how hard it was. Just look after yourself and do what you can for her when you feel you are able. I am only just now learning to lean on others more, letting my DH bath my son as I had always been the only one to do it and it was hard to let go of that but if i am exhausted or vomiting I rest now and let him do more. If I feel ok I will spend time with DS but if I am on the couch ''dying" and DH is at work then I will watch DS as he plays with his toys or just put playschool on or let him pull out every bowl in the tupperware cupboard.

The biggest difference this time around has been this site right here. Just to know that you are not alone is such a huge help. I can come here and whinge and the girls understand. No one on this forum will judge you no matter what you thoughts or feelings are. Come back as often as you feel you are able. You are not alone.

AFM: A quick update. I could not contact my ob last week re/ getting some IV fluids, seems he has gone away for a conference. Went to the hosp anyway. Bettymm, you were right they were hopeless. The best they could offer was IM maxalon. i explained that I had Maxalon and zofran but needed some fluids. They asked me what I had been drinking. I told them that in total I had managed to keep down about 450 mls of fluid in 24 hours. The nurse said that was actually ok. I told her I disagreed with this given that I am still trying to breast feed my son and a breast feeding mother needs 3000mls of fluids a day. My BP was 60/35 and my skin is peeling it is so dry. The midwife sent me home with a few of those hydration ice blocks. AAARRRRRGGGGGGHHHHHH!!!!! They have my records there of all my HG preg. in the past and still would not do anything without my ob. I am so mad. I did however get an overwhelming craving for icy cold milk yesterday and drank it by the glass full. Today I feel somewhat better so hopefully things will turn around soon.

Love and hugs to you all and sorry for another very long post. xx

GRRRRRR this is the exact same thing that happened to me once. there was just so many people in ER the nurses said i was just not urgent enough and will either wait around for hours on end or take the ice block and go home. i did this and then vomited as soon as i got home and was so sick i was green looking by next day


I think i got lucky the next time as it was quiet so i was actually seen by a doctor, blood and urine tests done and they could actually see how dehyrated i was and was given the fluids and zofran.

To be honest, I think for them to take you seriously at triage you really have to ham it up..as bad as it sounds, cry, tell them you cant tolerate any drink at all, do whatever it takes to get that fluid! its so frustrating HG isnt taken seriously at hospital, but this does happen unfortunately

talking about all this has made me get really nervous and panicky about getting pregnant. I hope it happens soon as i feel like the longer i have to wait im just delaying the yucky sickness thats waiting for me.

Hope everyone going ok today

and luvbngamum, thats great you were able to drink a glass of milk!! awesome. Hope that continues for you

Hi Bettymm, I know what you mean about getting nervous. Part of me wants to just forget the whole thing. I was planning to TTC in May, because that means I'll be sick mid-June. The first 2 weeks of July are school holidays, so I can go stay with my Mum or Dad and they can look after the kids. And at the end of July my MIL is coming for 2 weeks. So that 4 weeks of help altogether. If I just get a babysitter to help for the rest of the time, I won't worry about getting an au pair. But, who knows if I will get pregnant first month of TTC? I usually do, but I'm thinking I should start this month in case. Also, like you, the longer I wait, the scarier it gets.

The problem is that I'm still on 1/4 tablet of zoloft, which is actually a very small dose. I probably would just stay on it, except that being on zoloft makes me more susceptible to tummy problems and I don't want anything that could possibly make the hg worse. My other pregs were zoloft free. Also, I'm worried that if I get panicky, being preg means I can't take seroquel or valium or anything. I don't take these meds very often, but it's nice to know they're there. I'm hoping phenergen might be an option for that, if it helps me sleep. A sleep is like a circuit breaker for panic. Right now, I feel pretty strong, but I know that hg messes with your head.

I agree Luvbngamum, I think going through hg leaves you with something like post traumatic stress disorder. It's only natural that your mind becomes fearful of something that it assumes is life-threatening (as it can be without treatment). Does everyone here know that Charlotte Bronte died of hg? Tell that to the next nurse that doesn't take you seriously!

find out if your dr has a drip,i never realised bigger drs keep drips out the back.

Memmie - if needed small doses of seroquel through pregnancy are ok (if it wasn't for hg I would actually have been going through pregnancy on a dose of 400mg/day so not a small dose).

bettym - I know that I will never go through another pregnancy regardless of what happens with this one (even now I just don't see myself ending up with 2 babies at the end of the torture for some reason). I would rather go childless - can't imagine how hard that decision is & the anticipation.

Luvbgamum - sorry that the hospital was so sucky. Hope that you have continued to be able to keep some fluids down & are feeling better for it.

Mixie - I feel for you. I don't have another child to care for, but have spent most of this pregnancy in hospital away from DH & have begged for a termination more than once. Unfortunately because I am under the care of a mental health team they have pretty much said I am not in my right mind & disagreed majorly with a termination & now its too late. I haven't bonded with either of these babies either & as far as I am concerned the sooner they are out the better - hate feeling that way especially after 3 years of TTC & IVF but right now I just don't care. I hope that there is some relief down the road. I really feel for anyone going through this hell with a child to look after as well.

AFM - still no relief & just want these darn babies out. I've totally had enough but at the same time after a week of feeling like I have AF & having bleeding to match part of me was hoping that it was going to end. I hate that I'm having thoughts like that & it is leading to self harming thoughts (I have a long history of being a cutter) as well as some suicidal thoughts last week which I'm finding massively draining and distressing to be feeling that low again. I have my morph scan next week which I'm dreading because it means again having to have the probe on my stomach which makes me vomit & will also make both bubs move which is yet another trigger. Seems like nothing isn't a trigger with me now.

Hi Girls,

Peppernickel: hugs to you xx. I have found the emotional strain and trauma that this pg has brought nearly as bad as the nausea and vomiting. With my last pg I also dreamed for a termination or some other end to the hell but I did feel bonded to the baby and was torn because I wanted the baby. This time around I just don't feel it. I am hoping that I will feel it soon and I feel so guilty and almost superstitious about it because I am scared that I am willing something bad to happen and I am terrified it will happen right when i do decide that I love and want this baby. It really messes with your head. I can't imagine the hell you are going through. It must be so hard to be feeling these things when it was such a struggle for you to get pg in the first place. I think everyone goes into the first pg thinking it is going to be as magical and special as all of the movies depict it as but for us the reality is very different and that is just so hard to deal with. One of the Mums at school is pg and was joyfully telling everyone that she has never felt better and I could have punched her in the face. Was just so jealous, wished I could have just one darn pg that was free from all of this.

memmie: I did argue up a storm with the ER nurse. I told her to do some research on hg and that women actually die of this disease or abort otherwise much wanted babies and she just went on about the policy being trying IM antiemetics. Even seeing that my OB had written in my notes that I was dehydrated and he was considering IV fluids as a treatment would not change their opinion. They kept telling me to come back when my ob returned in 2 weeks. I even played the RN card as I am a theatre RN in another hospital and I never use that normally but i did this time. I think that made the situation worse as they took it as a bit of a threat or something. I am on two years maternity leave so not working at the moment. I have considered speaking with my boss who is a surgeon to see if he will put me on some fluids. Will see how I go as i have been keeping more down for 3 days now. May be turning the corner. I am kicking myself though because I was a district nurse and had a whole stock of IV lines and fluids here in case I had to visit someone in an emergency. I could have put my own IV line in and hooked myself up but I gave all my stock to our local vet only six months ago........OH well.

My GP is just as hopeless as the rest of them. When i was pg last time and lost 15 kg in 5.5 weeks he just gave me oral Maxalon and kept telling me to eat crackers and ginger. I eventually talked him into giving me a script for Zofran but it was like asking for a million dollars. I am sure he thought I was a big sook. I have not yet found a GP that takes hg seriously.

Well my DH is going off tomorrow to get his referral for "the snip". I know he is very nervous about it but I can not bear the thought of ever being pg again so it has to be done. I have told him that if he doesn't do it then I will have to get a tubal ligation soon after the baby is born. I think that guilted him into getting things rolling.

I am thinking of you all. Praying we will all get through this. xx

Peppanickel, Thanks for the info re- Seroquel. Usually, 1/4 of a 25mg tablet is enough to make me sleep so hopefully I can have that if nec. I have my fingers, toes, everything crossed that you will get through as many weeks as possible. You deserve to have a reward after what you are going through. You are going to be a wonderful Mum. I guess it will take a while to get your physical strength back, but you'll be on a 'high' from not being sick anymore. You probably can't even remember what that feels like.

Luvbngamum - how frustrating that you can't get an IV easily. I mean, it's not going to do you any harm, is it? So what's the problem? Is it because of cost of having you in the hospital? That's what we pay our taxes for. You shouldn't have to suffer for one second longer than you have to.

Princess Piggy, Serenzy, Brissy Mum, Mixie and everyone else - hope you are all ok.

I bought a book from Borders online and it arrived today. You may have all heard of it - It's called 'Beyond Morning Sickness' by Ashli McCall. It has lots of information about treatment (although it's a US book) as well as many stories from affected women. Really moving stories. It has a whole chapter on termination which has been great for me. So many women have gone through the same thing and experienced the same horrible aftermath. If you need some inspiration and hope, it's a great read.

Memmie,
I heard about that book when i was pregnant but never got around to ordering it, let us know what its like!

Thats good news about Seroquel, as in able to take it in pregnancy. At least you know if the anxiety gets back you can at least have a bit of relief. I recently started seeing a psychologist to help me prepare for the pregnancy and possible sickness to try to curb me getting depressed again.

I went to the first session but it was all about getting my family history, like totally in depth, had to draw a family tree and mark all the family members on there and all their stories/personalities, even the grandparents! was pretty boring and not very helpful actually and i dont know whether to return. I know they have to get all that info i guess but just the thought of going back seems like a chore!

anyway
Peppanickel, i cant believe you are almost half way now! well done on making it thus far and I am praying hard things improve for you soon.

afm...i am guessing no baby again this month as im feeling pre menstrual and my boobs are swollen and tender.. a clear sign of impending AF for me. just wish it would hurry up and happen the waiting is AWFUL

hugs to all

Hi everybody, I just got a BFP about a week and a half ago and had two days of feeling excited before the nausea and vomiting started... so it looks like I've found the right group here! (And hopefully nobody will ask me have I tried drinking ginger ale or eating a dry biscuit before getting out of bed.... )

I had HG with my first pregnancy (this is my second) and all the memories are flooding back. I was very ill up to about 26 weeks when for some reason I had about 4 weeks of feeling ok. Then it came back harder than ever and I was induced at 38 weeks - vomiting all the way through labour.

I'm finding it hard to cope with the thought of going through it all again. And this time it's started earlier (at 5 weeks instead of 7), my doctor thinks it will likely be as bad if not worse. I went to get my first pack of Zofran today and the taste of it on my tongue was such a powerful reminder.

This is a 'surprise' pg - we didn't think we could conceive naturally, and I have to admit that a small part of me would have been ok with only the one child because it would mean not going through this again - but then the guilt kicks in and I think hopefully I will have the strength to get through 35 more long long weeks. I have a new OB because we've moved, and haven't met him yet so hopefully he's supportive - I have been lucky enough to find a great GP who takes HG seriously, and from what I've read in pp's that's quite a lucky find.

Hope the day is going ok for everybody. I'd better go and do some work while the Zofran is taking the edge off a bit.

spinninggirl - sorry to hear you are struggling - this is my one & only pregnancy after hg - no way would I be going back for more so in many ways I am thankful there are two cooking.

bettymm- sorry that it doesn't look like this is your month & you have more waiting & anticipating. I am hoping that I am a lot closer than half way through - as far as I am concerned the day they can come out with a good chance of survival without long term issues they are evicted.


memmie - obviously you will need to talk to your health professionals about it but that small an amount every now & then of seroquel should be fine, considering that my ob (after consulting with a guru at Monash about meds during pregnancy & breastfeeding) was happy with me having 400mg every night & up to 100mg as required through the day.

AFM - I am tired of not going more than an hour without vomiting or a minute without feeling like I am going to vomit, not to mention the horrid excess saliva that has made a return. I'm stressing about my morph exam next week - another twin mum to be told me that it took her nearly 3 hours & I was warned that it is often at least a couple of hours for twins. I haven't even been able to cope with very short scans just checking basic things like a heartbeat.

Spinninggirl
im sorry to hear you are suffering again, but congratulations on your pregnancy!! i hope that the HG eases off at some point for you like last time. keep coming here and updating us on how you are going, or just have a vent if you need it. We all understand how bloody awful it is here and will not be making those stupid suggestions of ginger and crackers!

Peppanickel, sorry i have no idea what a morph scan is..but is it totally necessary? you seem to be dreading so could you opt to not have one?? sorry if thats a stupid question

its the 18-20 week scan that checks out everything with the babies Bettymm so yep seen as pretty essential especially with one baby having a 2 vessel cord which means there is a possibility of growth issues or congenital issues in that baby that may be picked up at this scan.

I havent been able to get on here since my last post, ive been too unwell. But my mother in law has DD tonight and my DH is working late, so its just me at home and i finally have some time. Ive just read the posts you wrote to me and literally just bawled my eyes out. I cant believe the comfort and support you can find in complete strangers words. Not one single thing i would disagree with. Everyone in different situations but still so similar. I have picked up mentally from last week. And my confidence in my parenting towards my daughter has risen. I AM trying. I might not feel im doing very well, but your right, the fact im worrying so much and trying so much means im doing my best. And if thats what im capable of at the moment then thats it.

Your all an inspiration. We can and will make it through.

memmie - im sorry to hear about your termination. The hardest decision of your life and i admire you for having the strength to figure out what was right for you at the time. ive contemplated it for sure, but very similar to peppenickel, ive been considered not mentally stable enough to make that kind of decision.

im sorry if ive missed anyone but you all made my day.

Short term pain for long term gain. I like it, and ill remember it as much as i can.

stay strong everyone.

peppanickel, oh ok, yeah you dont really want to skip that one! but should be the last one youll have to have? sorry, i just never heard the term "morph scan" before and the fact it might take 3 hours I had no idea what could take that long! i hope it is quicker than that for you and hope you dont feel too sick with it keep us posted.

Hi girls, I need to do a vent. Hope you don't mind. I've got a friend that I've known for about 15 years. She is such a dedicated friend, always caring, intelligent, fun, etc. The problem is, she is very 'type A' and quite competitive. She has this way of having little 'digs' at me that are so subtle, i wonder if I'm just being over-sensitive. It used to bother me a lot, but now I'm better at just letting it go. I can't work out if she really does have a huge ego, or if it's maybe out of insecurity.

So the other day, I tell her that I'm thinking of having one more try for number 3. After 2 miscarriages and the awful experience of hg and termination last year, you can imagine that it's an emotional issue for me. But she then starts giving me all these reasons not to. She says the age gap will be too big (I would have 8yo, 6yo by the time the baby was born) and says they won't get along or have much to do with the older kids. And then she starts going on about how you have to book extra rooms when you travel, one is always left out - all these things which are really no big deal and no reason not to have another child. She said, if it were me, I'd just leave it. Grrr. I hate to say it, but I think she actually doesn't want me to have 3 kids because she has 2. I know it sounds crazy but after all these years, I'm pretty sure I'm right. She was nearly 40 when her second was born and she wanted another, but she would have had to do it quickly and then she would have 3 close together, so her hubby got the snip.

What do you think? Is she right? Is the age gap too much? I don't know why her comments bothered me so much, but they do.

Memmie,
it really annoys me too when people stick their noses in and tell you how many children you should have and how big the gaps 'should' be. Its a decision for your family to make and every family is different!!!! my DD is only 2 and its seems like from when she turned one everyone was asking when we were trying for number two and if we wait too long the gap will be too big! ?!

I personally think the age gap you have will be lovely. Bubby will have two older children who know how to be gentle and will teach him/her things and look out for him/her. We have close family friend with a 9 year old girl and they way she interacts with my DD is just beautiful and i often think that 5 years plus is a great age gap!! Plus at the same time, as the other two are older the new baby will have plenty of attention from mum and dad and you can really enjoy that baby time. I say go for it such a hard decision , i know, but the fact your thinking about it so much means you really do want to and may regret not going for a third in the future.

Hi Girls,

Memmie: I think your friend is totally wrong on the age gap thing. I have large gaps between my kids and they love and care deeply for each other. The two babies will have the closest gap. The gaps between the older kids are much larger. There are 2years5months between DD1 and DS1, but he had Down syndrome so the reality is that the gap between them is much larger than it actually is. She however is his biggest fan and supports him wonderfully. There are 3years 4months between DS1 and DD2 and 5 years 9 months between DD1 and DD2. They have such different personalities with our eldest being a real girly girl but DD2 is such a tom boy. They are however very close. DD2 gives DD1 an excuse to occasionally get out the Bratz dolls or the My little Ponies and despite being 16 she will happily spend time "playing" with DD2.

There are 9 years between DD2 and DS2, 15 years between DD1 and DS2 and 12.5 years between DS1 and DS2 and yes the age gaps are huge but gee they all love their baby brother like crazy. I think he has taught them so much and they love watching the funny things he does. We did decide that we would add a number 5 so that DS2 had someone to grow up with but in reality he would have been fine if a number 5 never happened. Close age gaps do not guarantee that your children will be close. There is 20 months between my brother and I and yes, i love him but we are not very close and have very little in common.

Try not to let what your friend says bother you. I think you are right about the whole competitive thing and I think it has more to do with you having number 3 when she has 2. My SIL is much the same. She has 2 little girls and when I had DS2 she kept saying "just because you have 2 more kids than I it does not mean that you are any busier than me" I had never said or implied that I was any busier with 2 extra kids. It was her insecurities, nothing to do with me.

I say "go for it" If having a baby is right for your family and yourself then no one else should matter. If you older children are anything like mine then they will love having a baby around and will learn so much. You will love having a baby around again too. When baby DS was born I just could not get enough of him, you know how quickly time passes and appreciate a baby more after watching older children grow.

Peppernickel: 19 weeks.......You are getting closer now. hugs xx

Bettymm; GEE! I hope that this is your month. I was in deep shock when I got my BFP because I was sure that AF was coming. Fingers and toes crossed for you. The waiting is torture.

mixie88: You sure have come to the right place. This forum has been a life saver for me and I do not know what i would have done without the support shown here. Hope things will look up for you soon. Always remember what a good Mum you are. Your little girl loves you.

spinninggirl: Congratulations and welcome. Sorry to hear that you are so unwell. My hg started earlier this time too. My previous pg the hg started at 6 weeks, this time it began even before I tested and had truly kicked in at 4 weeks. It is so scary to suddenly have all of those memories come flooding back, terrifying actually. We will all get through this....

AFM: Had acupuncture again yesterday. It is so good. It helped with the nausea which was good. He also gave me some electrolyte powder which can be taken anyway i can get it in and it has helped me to feel better. He was so angry at the hospital as he knows how dehydrated I am but said that the powder should help. Yesterday was a fairly good day. Today I feel a bit yuk but did not sleep very well last night so I am very tired.

Princess piggy, serenzy, brissymum, hope you are all ok, someone please tell me how good they are feeling now. I need some hope.................xx

memmie, your friend sounds jealous that you're trying for a third. FWIW, there will be 8 years between DD1 and this little one, and it doesn't bother DH and I. There's already a 5 year gap between her and DD2, and 7 years between DD3 and she is wonderful with her little sisters (and vice versa!). It's your life, you do what's right for you.

Luvbngamum, I hope tomorrow is a better day for you. I'm so glad you have some electrolyte powder, but so angry at how the hospital treated you! It isn't good enough!

spinninggirl, I'm so sorry you've had to join our group but I hope we can offer some support. *hugs*

peppanickel, always thinking of you. xx

AFM, trying to get through without Zofran atm but it's not being too successful. I'm interstate at my parents with the kids for the holidays (DH is currently away), so getting more rest and help with the girls. I have a meeting with the head of obs at my hospital at 36 weeks to discuss a social induction at 39 (I have had fast labours previously, my last was 90 minutes), so I'm comforting myself with the fact that I only have 15 weeks left of this if it goes that way.

Hoping we all feel better soon. (one can dream!) xx

Hi ladies, just popping in here to see if anyone saw that Dr Oz program on Thursday or Friday last week (I dont know what channel as I was trying to find ABC2 for DD) at about lunch time or 2pm?

It was a pregnancy special and he was rabbiting on about MS and how to avoid it.... Just wanted to know if he had anything more to offer than "eating before getting out of bed and ginger" (yeah, like that works really well......NOT)

(I am a HG survivor x2 and am thinking about #3 but am VERY wary of putting myself through it again)

TIA

Hi ladies
just wanted to let you all know i tested today and got a BFP!!! took me totally by surprise as i was 99% certain my period was coming.

Im still a bit in shock i think. We are happy and excited but as you can imagine that feeling of dread is there. The only inckling i had that i might be pregnant was last night when my husband came home from watching a football match i could smell the alcohol on his breath as soon as he walked in the door..he had only had one drink but it was making me feel sick.

anyway, I have no idea how bad it will get this time but im so glad i found this site so i know ill have people to talk to who actually understand!
hugs to all

AP - didn't see it - even the crappy lil tv I have above my bed here with the crappy sound makes me vomit.

Serenzy - glad you are getting a bit of a break & have some idea when bubs will be out.

Luvbngamum - hope you are still getting some benefit from the acupuncture today.

memmie - can't comment from personal experience of age differences between children but sounds like your friend is just jealous - I don't think there is anything wrong with big age differences (would probably prefer it to having them both at once like I am TBH - I am getting very stressed about being able to give both babies everything they need)

mixie - glad you are feeling emotionally in a better place - wish I could reach that place.

AFM - nothing has changed - still feel like crap & literally only managing to be on here right now because I just had zofran & phenergen fed through my IV at the same time - already feeling it wearing off. I found out on Friday why my ob has been good with treating hg - his wife had it with their only child. He also told me on Friday that he has sent over my notes & been talking with the MFM (high risk specialist) at a tertiary hospital who he will refer me to to manage the pregnancy from 24 weeks when it is considered viable to 34 weeks when he will take back my care if I am still pg. Because my kidney & liver functions are deteriorating each week when tested & that it appears that one twin isn't growing as well as the other, the MFM has indicated that from 28-30 weeks on they will start considering when it is the best interest to deliver. Scary to know they could be in here in 9 weeks but at the same I can't wait for them to be out.

Hi Girls,

Bettymm: CONGRATULATIONS I had a feeling that this would be your month. i am glad that the waiting is over and now you can begin the journey, whatever that holds for you. Lets pray it is not too bad, wonderful would be even better. Whatever happens we are here for you and it is nice to know that because you are pg now you will be going through the journey with us. I will be thinking of you and hoping the hg stays away. Try to get a head start on it with the high protein and carb diet and see if acupuncture does work for you. I have been better physically this time because of the early preparation, still horrid but not as bad as last time. I remember all too well the mix of excitement and absolute terror when I got this last BFP so if you need to vent this is the right place. hugs to youxx

peppernickel: Glad to hear that there is a plan of sorts in place for your pregnancy. I would not worry too much about having 2 babies at the same time. Twins are double the work but after the pg that you have been through I think you should be strong enough to cope with anything. If you were having just the one baby the hg would most likely have been less severe but the up side is that you will have an instant family without the stress of trying to decide if you should ever have to go through this again.

Altiora peto: I did not see the Dr Oz program but it does not surprise me. After five HG pg I am sick and tired of people telling me to try ginger and crackers. Not many Drs out there are any more knowledgeable than the general public. It makes me so mad.

Serenzy: Gee I was holding out hope that you would be feeling a pregnancy glow by now. I am still mad at the way the hosp. treated me. I have been a RN for 20 years now and i am sometimes ashamed at how the medical profession treats patients. I was made to feel like I was a whinging, weak person when in actual fact i am the opposite. It takes a lot for me to complain. Never mind my ob should be back soon so I will call him if I need to, will actually tell him about what happened anyhow. I don't think he will be too happy either. The electrolyte powder stayed down on Friday but when I had it yesterday it came straight back up. Poor DD1 had to witness me spewing all over the floor. I have put her off having kids forever. Have not been game enough to try it again but will have to shortly.

Hope everyones weekend is ok. hugs xx

luvbngamum
thank you!! its amazing how much early pregnancy feels like PMS!! i do remember that happening last time too. yes, its a strange feeling so different from last time when it was 100% happiness and joy , this time i am so anxious and worried about what lies ahead especially considering my parents are going to europe for 6 weeks from this weekend i jsut dont know how ill manage to look after my DD if it gets bad!!

sorry to hear about the electrolyte powder not staying down..do try it again though, if it stayed down once it may again and it will help alot.

Peppanickel, im so sorry to hear that one of your bubs isnt growing as well as the other, its bad enough feeling as horrid as you do. As always, thinking of you.

Hi and welcome but sorry to the new people who have had to join. I hope your HG is not too soul destroying.

PeppaNickel you are like me never going back in this life or the next. I know for a fact not only would I get it again but it would be worse. I have no doubt about that. I hope that you can safely make it too a safe point for the babies.

Bettymm congratulations I think..I really hope you can make it through without too much trauma.

Memmie tell her age differences are the least of your issues. It won't make a jot of difference in the scheme of things.

Serenzy so sorry to hear the zofran still controls you..Even the word makes me feel ill.

Lvbngmum I think the worst people with this HG have been the doctors and health professionals.. NO freakin idea at all.

AFM I will be 31weeks tomorrow and counting. To give some hope the HG has been a million times better and lets hope it stays that way but I still feel tired and nauseous but not that bone crushing nausea that had me trapped in my own body having a mental breakdown type nausea. But I just cannot wait till the baby is here and my body except for birth injuries etc is mine again.

Kat

Bettymm - congratulations! That's fantastic news. Your journey has begun and so no more scary anticipation at least. Update here as much as you can. The book I'm reading (Beyond Morning Sickness) says that there are studies saying there are better outcomes for women who start anti-emetic medication BEFORE symptom reach their peak, so make sure you get the right meds straight away. Do you have a good OB? I'm pretty sure I'll ttc this month, so I possibly won't be far behind you.

Thank you all for your common-sense advice about age gaps. You are all so right. Compared to hg, worrying about age gaps and other nonsense shouldn't even enter the radar.

Chedasha - that's great to hear that you're feeling better and that you are getting so close to the end and meeting your lovely bub.

Luvbngamum - You must be so mad that you didn't get the treatment you deserved. I hope your ob takes it up with the hospital. ps - what was the protein powder you were using? I saw that sustagen has a 'sport' formula which has extra protein.

peppanickel - that's great that your ob has personal experience. At least he knows how serious the suffering is. I hope the weeks go fast for you. My friend had her twins at 29.5 weeks and they are healthy 4 year olds now.

serenzy - I hope you get some much-needed rest with your parents.

Altiora peto - no, didnt see the special. Apparently Dr Phil did the topic a few years ago. Wonder if it can be found online?