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daviesjv
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“Has anyone ever videotaped the birth of their child? We’re having our first baby in January and my hubby recently bought a new digital video recorder so that we can record our daughter’s (we’re having a girl) development over the years on film. All good.

He’s now decided though that he also wants to videotape the birth. Not as in the first few moments of bonding after she’s born but the whole process of labour from the pushing to the crowning head etc, etc.

He’s really, really, really passionate about the idea and I’m really, really, really uneasy about it. I don’t even like photographs of myself, I know that I will definitely not like seeing myself on film giving birth.

He’s told all our friends and family that we’re taping the birth and my biggest fear is that if we go ahead and do it that he’ll show the video to some of them. Even if I tell him not to sometimes he does things impulsively without thinking.

I’ve told him I don’t want to video it – he keeps telling me to reconsider, because I might really regret it down the track. What do your readers think? I’d be interested to know if any of them have taped their birth?

A.”


Firstly, you haven’t said what sort of birth you’re having, or where, so I’m assuming that you can tape it? If so – well – hmmmmm. It’s definitely not something that I’d do, but that’s just me.

To help you out I have asked columnist, author and social commentator Susan Maushart - who is also a mother of three – for her take on it.

“My gut feeling is that if she’s uncomfortable with it then don’t go there - she has to make the final call,” says Susan. “There is very little that you can control in your birth experience; you can do lots of preparation but ultimately it’s in the lap of the gods. But there are a few things that you can do to ensure your own peace of mind and one of them is deciding who is going to be present and what is going to be present at your birth, and a video camera is potentially a very intrusive thing for a lot of people.”

A, Susan believes that you wouldn’t be likely to regret your decision down the track: “I’ve been lucky enough to see videos of others peoples births and thought they were wonderful and fantastic and just inspiring,” she says. “So I’m not opposed to the idea at all. But by the same token Ive had three kids – three really amazing childbirth experiences that are in many ways the highlights of my life - and I don’t have a video of any of them. They are not one iota dimmed in my memory except perhaps in a good way!”

And Susan points out that a video introduces a perspective on the event that isn’t yours. “A video is not going to capture the experience as it really is because that is something that happens from within and from the perspective of where her eyes are, not from where the video camera’s eyes are,” she says. “The ultimate record of this event is inside of her. Nobody can take that away from her.”

With regards to your husband, A, perhaps point out to him that if he is glued to a video camera throughout the birth he could well find that it diminishes his experience of the birth, which would be a shame. “Being a photographer really interposes something major between yourself and the experience,” says Susan. "If you are really lost in what you are doing, you probably shouldn’t be taking photos. Let him concentrate his energy on her.”

Good luck with the decision, A. And at the end of the day if you end up with a healthy little daughter then that is the only thing that really matters.

EB Members: Have you ever videoed your birth? Is it something you would ever consider?

TheStick
My hospital does not allow video cameras during birth, so the decision was simple.

Honestly, I wouldn't want to anyway. It really was not a pretty moment and I certainly wouldn't be comfortable sharing it with anyone. Maybe from the moment the baby is put on your chest would be nice, but nothing prior to that for me thanks!
belindarama
Don't do it if you are not comfortable. People talk about dignity going out the window when you are pregnant/in labour. To some extent that is true but you still have some say! I know for sure I would not be comfortable with a videoptape of my labour floating around, especially if I thought my husband might pull it out at our next dinner party. We discussed this briefly and neither of us were keen. I would not pull off my knickers and flash our friends and family on any other day and I really did not see the difference for my own piece of mind. Imagine looking your husband's father or best mate in the eye after they've seen that! Some people will probably say it is beautiful/natural and so on but you don't have a personality transplant just because you have a baby and feel comfortable being so exposed when you wouldn't normally-if you would prefer it was a beautiful, private experience that needs to be respected.

No matter how much your husband wants to do this it is your body, your dignity and your labour being caught on camera. It is your choice and you should feel comfortable saying no to this. Enough people will be prodding and poking your naked body in ways that would horrify you in any other situation! No need to have it on tape as well if you are not 100% into it. You will remember the experience and you won't regret the decision.
samson
As long as it is your vagina being filmed, it is your decision - end of discussion!!!

Perhaps a compromise could be him filming from near your head, so he can capture the baby being lifted up but not your nether regions. That would depend of course on whether you trust him to stay at your head and respect your wishes, because in the spur of the moment you may not be in any position to assert your wishes to him.
offbeatMof4
Wow! Good luck with it all. If you were all for it then I'd say go for it BUT as a childbirth educator I think your husband needs to know a little more about what happens to your body in labour. Our instincts tell us to make this a private and safe event - which is why many birth places minimise people coming into the room or darken things and often midwives tell mums to stay home as long as possible ...and why often labour stops or slows when you come into hospital. If you were in any way conscious that this could be made public (and we know you are) then when the video switches on, so does a bit of adrenaline in your body. It perceives the video as a threat. And that adrenaline is telling you that you are going to need to run away or stand and fight - and you can't have a baby while you are doing those things. So it switches off the labour and sends all the blood flow and effort to you arms and legs - ready for a different sort of action. So in my opinion, having the video camera on during your birth is very likely to increase the length of your labour and perhaps cause it to be difficult in a way that might not have happened if it were left outside.
Also, if you allow him to film it after all that, then make sure he strips naked in the room while it is being filmed. I think it is the only way you can guarantee that no-one innappropriate might see it. Or maybe he could perform a naked macarena in front of the lens before heading behind it to film you in all your glory. Maybe a good option would just be that he has the camera there for immediately afterwards. And maybe him watching a few extra births on film before the event might help him get it out of his system. I wish you all the best for a private birth experience.
~M~
I did with my first two sons and if my OB and the hospital still allow it, intend to do so with my third.

With my first, other half filmed the contractions and the hour I was using the gas, and then it cuts to me holding DS#1 on my chest just after his cord has been cut, beaming and staring at him in awe.

With DS#2, the whole thing was filmed - contractions, pushing and all BUT from the other side of the room with no 'juicy shots' whatsoever. In fact, my younger sister and closest family and friends have been able to watch both videotapes as I am completely comfortable with what can (or rather can't) be seen.

The reason I chose to have my children’s births videotaped is because I figured it would be something I would want to remember and look back on for the rest of my days.

The added bonus has come around lately; for the last few years, DS#1 asks to see the tape of his birth. He knows it by heart but still adores watching it. In our first few moments together, he starts to whimper and I kiss his forehead and whisper that I love him and straight away he settles down. When we watch this part together now, he always smiles, hugs me tight and says "see mummy, even then I loved you already". It's an amazing bonding process than never wanes with time, we can never get sick of watching it and every time we do, other half and I always smile at each other warmly and live through this amazing journey again.

I hope as DS#2 grows up we will also start this tradition, and I also hope I will be lucky enough to catch D?#3's birth on video again. I really wouldn't have it any other way wub.gif
alexbot
Nooooooo!!! I find the whole new "tradition" disturbingly documentarian in its attitude toward everyday life, and just downright... weird.

Must everything be on videotape these days? Be there, experience it, remember it together, but why... video? Who is going to be running the video camera? Won't they have something more important, more _engaged_ to be doing?

And why on earth would anyone ever want to watch a video of a birth? I simply don't get it. I certainly wouldn't want to see my own, and I remember my boys' vividly.
alwayshappy
I have video's all three of my vaginal births. I can't say I've really watched them as they are still on small tapes and haven't been transferred to DVD or something watchable.
I have watched them back through the lense and I wouldn't change a thing about having them filmed. Fortunately, my DH has no interest in sharing them with anyone - I'd be more likely to do that than he would. I see birth as a beautiful, natural experience and I would be fairly open to people sharing that experience - warts and all. However, I would want FULL control over who saw it. And it's in my posession, so I do.
My eldest daughter (8) has watched her birth and enjoys it. The kids see it as a natural thing and have an understanding of what a natural birth looks like.
More than anything though, I have it so I can look back on it and remember that most magical moment when my darling children came into my life. I'm very glad I have those video's and I am very glad I captured such a profound moment in my life.
I do think that the DH in the above scenario does need to really listen to his wife and her fears about the video as I agree that it can certainly impede delivery if she doesn't feel comfortable. Lots of discussions need to occur before they can move forward and ultimately, I think it is the wife's decision. I like the idea of shooting from the head so that all the more private bits are not exposed - perhaps that's a compromise.
samanthan
ds1 filmed ds2's birth. He's very proud of his work Tounge1.gif I wasn't sure but figured I could always delete it if I wanted but am happy we have it now. It was a home water birth and is filmed from the front so you can't actually see the actual birth. I am naked in it but that's ok. I have shared it with a few friends but I haven't made it into a DVD or anything. If ds wants to do this baby he can but I'm secretly hoping it will be the middle of the night and they'll all be asleep wink.gif
Tooth-Fairy
I had a scheduled c/s with DS2 and was intending to use the still camera to capture those first moments. However, somehow either DH or I forgot to bring in the battery for it - we had it on charge and just left it behind. I was sooooo disappointed. The memory of my previous 2 births - one vaginal and one c/s had not dimmed, but I really wanted a couple of 'still wet' photos of this little one.

Anyway, we had the video camera and were planning to use it in recovery. When we got into theatre, someone - who must have been official! - asked us if we were going to use the video, so we did. It is amazing. I am so glad I have this video, first seeing his little face, hearing "It's a boy, a beautiful boy, congratulations!" , hearing his first little cry, seeing us first meeting him and what we said, all the hussell bussell going on around us and the other theatre staff congratulating us and cooing over how gorgeous he is, the ostetrician talking all his medical speak to the 2 students he had - the girl was crying because it was her first birth.

So while I will never forget any of my children births and they truely are right up there with the highlights of my life, it is simply amazing having this event recorded on film. I won't show everyone - but I have shown the older kids several times and if a close friend or family member wanted to see it, I would show them but not give them a copy. It is a truely personal moment and I watch it over myself about a couple of times a month.
new~mum~reenie
I loved Jacobs birth and wish that we did film it - just for us.

The reason being that my memory is skewed due to the endorphins - and some thing si thought happened slowly happened quite quick etc.

The student MW at his birth took photographs after the birth, and DH took 2 of me in labour between contractions - but I think it would have been good to see more - like how I moved through contractions etc. And I always figure if I don't want to keep it I can distroy or delete it.

But I would not be happy for DH to share them 'willy nilly' (but DH wouldn't anyway).
voyagersaus
Your body, your decision. If the silly man can't see that then... he's pretty silly!!

Each to their own. I would be no more comfortable having someone film one of my long, gory and painful births than I would having someone film me having a pap smear, or sex.

Perhaps you can film the vasectomy, when he has it? Or his next manual prostate check?

A few happy snaps of the day will help you remember (what you didn't want to blank out), but I think filming the whole thing is a tad... creepy and inappropriate.

Just one person's opinion! wwhistle.gif
daviesjv
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"...make sure he strips naked in the room while it is being filmed. I think it is the only way you can guarantee that no-one innappropriate might see it..."
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chriskq
QUOTE (voyagersaus @ 17/11/2009, 09:52 AM) *
Perhaps you can film the vasectomy, when he has it? Or his next manual prostate check?


Just one minute here - You're comparing a vasectomy or a prostate check with the birth of a child.... bad example there i think voyagerous.... i dont think you should try and compare it - because lets face it - nothing can compare with the birth of a new person into the world.

Im not entirely for the idea of filming the birth, but it should come down to the mothers personal choice. If and when i have a child it might be nice to set up a video camera in the corner of the room and then edit the film later. no close ups or anything - just the experience captured.

my 2 cents.
nano-tyrannus
Its usually standard medical practise to prevent this sort of thing, but naturally:
"You'll fart, poop, pee, and scream, all in front of ten complete strangers, all of whom are staring intently at your vagina, which, by the way, has an 80 per cent chance of tearing."
daviesjv
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"The added bonus has come around lately; for the last few years, DS#1 asks to see the tape of his birth. He knows it by heart but still adores watching it. In our first few moments together, he starts to whimper and I kiss his forehead and whisper that I love him and straight away he settles down. When we watch this part together now, he always smiles, hugs me tight and says "see mummy, even then I loved you already".


That's really beautiful, M!
mumandboys
At the end of the day, it's each woman's decision to make.

I personally would not be happy for anyone to film me birthing a baby. For me, labor and birth are scary, and bloody painful. There's no good bits until the baby comes out - THEN, the videos and cameras are welcome. The rest, I actually prefer to forget (or if I didn't I would only have one child) original.gif

Indey
No way! Not in a 1000 births!
custardtart
My DH decided, without my knowledge, to tape a few moments of the labour of my third child. When I found out, I was in tears of rage and humiliation - to me, he had breached trust in one of the worst possible ways - filming me in pain, at my most vulnerable, during a difficult and complicated labour, without my knowledge or consent.
As soon as he realised how I felt about it, he deleted the tape - but once seen, I can't unsee it. I have no words for what it was he breached, but it was absolutley a violation. Years later, the emotion is still raw.

Never, never, never.
daviesjv
Oh yes - videotaping without your permission is a whole separate issue!!
**KM**
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Its usually standard medical practise to prevent this sort of thing, but naturally:
"You'll fart, poop, pee, and scream, all in front of ten complete strangers, all of whom are staring intently at your vagina, which, by the way, has an 80 per cent chance of tearing."


Yes if birth is 'medical' then you do have a high chance of all this.

My home birth (which my 12 year old daughter taped) was not 'medical' so I had no strangers staring at my vagina, no screaming etc (yes there was some poop tongue.gif ).

To the OP, each to their own, we didn't video our first two hospital births but decided to video our home birth and I am glad we did, so nice to have one of my births on video to remember it with original.gif

Hindi aksaya oras
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Jenness
I wouldn't want it. I really don't like the idea of the birth being entertainment. You go through enough pain during the birth without having see what you look like doing it. My Aunt once told me that child birth is a beautiful thing. In one way she is right, when you are finally holding the baby in your arms it's amazing, but the lead up I don't really find that beautiful and i wouldn't want it on camera. My husband was very enthusiastic about the birth too, but after he saw what I went through the first time he said I could have whatever I wanted next time. At any rate, it's good to have a support person, someone to give you water or wipe you down or hold your hand when you need it. If your husband was filming the birth, he wouldn't be able to support you when you need it the most. Maybe let your husband know how you feel, I'm sure he'll find being there in person is so special he won't need to relive it with a video.
BekandBraden
Ive had my two births video taped. My support person did the taping, so DH could concentrate on me.

I have watched the tapes numerous times and think its a fantastic memento for years to come. I never thought I would be able to have kids,,,after 5 miscarriages and 9 years of trying and a couple of years on IVF... so these tapes for me, are really special.

Each to their own i guess!
scoobeemummy
We didn't video the birth of our DS in Feb 2006, so I was determined to capture the birth of my darling daughter...we simply set the camera up on a tripod a couple of metres away, and from the side (not directly zoomed on the business end) then as it turned out the birth was very rapid, and there is only 9 minutes of footage before she was born. I have watched it a couple of times and still get caught up in the emotions of it all, I chose to show my Mum, sister and best friend, because they showed an interest, but no-one else will see it. Using a the tripod meant it didn't interfere with actual birth experience, or my husbands enjoyment, he was right there with me while the camera was a forgotten thing in the corner... I'd do it, but stick to your conditions, you can always erase it! original.gif
gnometree
It sounds like he doesn't fully understand how birth works. And why should he? He's never been part of this before. You need to explain to hime gently that you need him to support you during the birth and that it's just not a time to be running around with a camera. Is he maybe frightened of what will actually happen emotionally with the birth and is using this as a way of "detatching" from the experience.
Having unneccessary people in the room can be disruptive enough, having a camera there would be hell on earth. Some people liken giving birth to having sex, the same body parts are involved, the same hormones are involved and the same noises are made. Would he be able to make love to you with someone else filming it? (Maybe you'd better not ask him that question tongue.gif )
To help him understand,I would suggest that he reads this article by Dr Sarah Buckley http://sarahjbuckley.com/articles/labour-hormones.htm
Good luck. But stick to your guns. If you don't want the camera there, it's not there
leapfrog
DD's birth over 4 years ago was captured on video - I watched it for the first time about one month ago, with DD and DS beside me. It was *the most beautiful* thing we could share together. I had a water-birth in a hospital, the video was on a tripod, so it captured DH & I together, experiencing the amazing delivery of DD. There was no screaming (the second time around!), and what I had thought happened during the delivery, was shown very differently in the video. It also captured my son's first moments with his sister, which was very warming to see.

I recommend this - you can store the tape away unseen, like I did for over 4 years, or transfer it to a DVD for about $20. You might feel differently after some time, and be thankful for the opportunity to relive the birth.

(Oh, and I could see just how annoying my husband was during the birth, seeing the midwives roll their eyes at him roll2.gif ...priceless!)
CallMeAl
If it makes you uncomfortable, don't. You need to be as comfortable as you can be on the day! And the chance of him showing it to people... GAWD what is he thinking! Haha - ask for the video to start with a closeup of HIS private parts and you'll probably prevent that...!

For me, I'd have loved to have had mine videoed. Unfortunately we weren't allowed to once the forceps came out (fear of litigation?), which was ok, but I'd have liked to see my DD's first few seconds emerging into the world, given I couldn't see that from the angle I had! I have watched my video of the lead-up and labour and the straight-after, and I'm glad we recorded it. It's amazing how much you forget.

BUT.... I also know my H wouldn't DREAM of showing it to anyone! Maybe some day if DD wants to see it, she will.

And ~M~ ..... that's beautiful! I hope I'll someday get to do something like that with DD, that would be wonderful...
BobCatter


For myself, while giving birth is one of the most amazing things anyone can ever do, it also ranks right up there as one of the most undignified things anyone can ever do. DH took photos immediately after the birth, which are beautiful, but there is no way I would ever want something as intimate as giving birth to be videotaped. I also wonder just what the child involved would think about it in a few years time.
Tennasee
Before I gave birth I used youtube to look at vid's of other people giving birth ( i wanted some idea of what i was in for) and video's from over the shoulder, so you couldn't see the lady's bits and pieces. Personally I wouldn't allow video, and didn't even want photo's but my husband took a few. They are strictly for our viewing only though and if you do decide to allow hubbie to video, insist that he not show anyone. It's nobody's business and I can't imagine too many people who would want to see you giving birth anyway. biggrin.gif
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