New thread time.

Link to last thread.

GOLD!!

This is an interesting article on allergies and introducing solids, that is, I believe, related to the study my paed was referring to: http://www.abc.net.au/rn/backgroundbriefin...008/2226031.htm









It's a rather long article, but very interesting reading.

Happy Mothers' Day everyone! And an extra special wish to those celebrating their very first Mothers' Day .

Silver!

Happy mother's day everyone!!!

Niss, how is Ruby? Settling down yet?

BRONZE

WOW!

HAPPY MOTHERS DAY!

Thats all I have to say right now

Naomi...what are you doing on the net at that time...

Happy Mothers Day everyone...

losec might be kicking in but very slowly...

At 9pm last night Jacob let out this scream and wouldn't stop. He was inconsolable. We massaged his belly; that gave him some relief. He's never done that before. It was very frightening. I gave him infant panadol which knocked him out! (is that what colic is??? hope it doesn't happen again...)

His stools have been very dry since we introduced the thickener. I wonder if that was what was bothering him??? So I reduced the amount of thickener only to have him stop feeding after 10ml because its flowing too fast...

ETA I did a huge rant but things are looking much brighter today

Have a FANTASTIC MOTHER'S DAY everyone!!!

lol Niss xxx

Hello all (typing 1 handed- feeding)

"HAPPY MOTHERS DAY"

quick q- did anyone use fenugreek for supply? did it work? how much to take? and can u take it with blackmores preg n feeding gold? Is natures own 1000mg.. hope someone knows

thanks

Hi Fringe - I took 3x3 capsules a day until I stank of it lol. But yes it worked within about 3 days - I particularly noticed the evening supply had increased. You can take it with the Blackmores stuff .

Nerissa - glad the Losec seems to be kicking in. Hope Jacob is feeling much better this morning - is he getting constipated maybe?? Sorry I have no experience with thickeners.

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vic xxx

hahahahahaa....the font change and colour didnt work obviously!!!

Niss, both my two were constipated and got lots of wind on the thickner. The pain from that was almost as bad as the reflux from what I could tell. Gia didn't have problems on a combination of AR and Gold, but BJ just had to have Gold it was so bad.

What did everyone do for mother's day? Did you get spoilt? My two did paintings (ok blobs of paint with little finger marks in it) at day care and these were laminated into place mats. Very cute! DP surprised me with a topaz&diamond ring We had all our parents over for lunch - it was lovely!

sounds like you had a great day kazzil! what a good gift idea - i may pinch it for fathers day this year!!!!

we went on a really nice bush walk and then had a picnic lunch...i was also treated to a sleep in!!!!!!

lucky me

HAPPY BELATED MOTHERS DAY TO YOU ALL

Just checking in and saying a quick Hello and popping my head up to let you all know we are still alive. Not sure at this stage when we'll be back (booked one way tickets so we didn't have to rush to get things done) but I'll be sure to let all you Brissy girls know so we can have that meet up finally

Wow, my girls are 11 months old today!!

I hope everyone had a better Mother's day than me DH spent the day playing warcraft, apart from a picnic (which I had to pack and then unpack when we got home), and all I got was a card

We are now down to 1 BF before bed, and an extra for Elke overnight becuase she won't go back to sleep without it. I decided to not offer, not refuse and they've happily dropped them I feel very liberated, and have decided to go back to work one day per week after their birthday.

We also got colds from AMBA tiny tots (same one as Bec went to) so are a bit miserable. On top of that Elke has popped 3 teeth in 4 days

In the last week Gabbie has started to stand unsupported for 15-20 secs at a time, and is getting better everyday.

Gumby - glad to hear the flight was uneventful. Looking forward to a big meet up when you're back in QLD.

holy moly! 3 teeth in 4 days?????? as my boys are only 5 months i have yet to enter the wonderful world of teeth - is 3 teeth in 4 days unusual? or is she just a fast grower?

Hi everyone,

Hope everyone had a good day yesterday.

Grub mine was about as good as yours, I didn't even get a card but I did get a little box of chocolates with a sticky note on saying Happy Mothers Day. DH spent the day alternating between grouting our floor and play GTA4 while I did everything with the babies and the housework. I shouldn't complain I guess, I have 2 happy, healthy babies but I'm still going to

Fringe took about 2 days for Fenugreek to kick in and then the difference was huge, I dropped the dose becuase I was worried about mastitis it worked that well.

Hope everyone is well.

I had a pretty cr@p mother's day too... no card OR gift or recognition of the day from DH. I'd spent the night before doing all feeds because it was DH's birthday but nothing was done for me...

Went to Mum's for lunch (which I had to convince DH to go to) but I was so b*ggered that we left early on the premise that I would get some sleep... no luck there as the losec hasn't really kicked in yet

On the up side, DH is usually so supportive that I guess every day is like a mother's day. Only thing is he just doesn't get that you need to be rooly rooly rooly organised to be a parent of twins, so I end up racing around doing everything between feeds (eg washing, sterilising, wasking and hanging out clothers) while he plays whatever or watches tv.

R and J had their 4-month vacs today. Gee J is good. He just cried for about 1 min and that was it. R is taking longer to settle. J just smiles at everyone now... he's a cutie!!!

Also J finally did a big poo just as the doctor threatened him with med to loosen his stools!!! I'd been so concerned I was considering stopping the weaning process and giving him just EBM but seeing a good poo stopped that thought process (almost) entirely! I still have the guilts though.

Having trouble weaning myself. I have a good-flow breast and a really slow flow breast. The good flow one is softening nicely. But I just don't want to spend 45 min a time expressing just to reduce the hardness of the slow flow breast. I no longer express to empty though (but it means I have to express more often) - I'm hoping this tactic works. The dr gave me supply-stopping meds to take if nothing is working in a week or so.

Kazzil, I've reduced the amount of thickener in J's feeds but its flowing too fast now for him!!!!! (J's feeding sagas just never end!!! ) So my next trick is a slow flow orthodontic teat with less or no thickener added to formula... R seems ok (apart from the losec not kicking in yet)... she needs more thickener than J...

Grub and Telli... sorry to hear about your respective mothers days! 3 teeth in 4 days... wowee...

Gumby: all the best in Melb. Who/where are you staying? Have you found a good school? Are you going to move to Melb permanently? Happy 11 months to your bubs!!!

Ok that's enough from me... there's too much work to do around here to be idling my time away!!!

Niss x

I know I shouldn't complain as I really do feel so lucky to be a mother, especially so coming from an IVF background. It just feels like a lot of work for very little reward, but I guess that's just motherhood

I'm not sure about 3 teeth in 4 days being unusual, she's (E) has 6 now and Gabbie still only has the two on the bottom. They were three all in a row if that makes any difference. My nephew got 3 in a weekend about a month ago. My two are generally slow teethers so maybe they're just starting to catch up. We had a few nasty nights and a bit of a drop in appetite, but I think she handled it really well

Chantel - I love your sig. What a great photo.

Sorry to hear others had a bad day too Dh's hey?

Niss - what about hand expressing rather than pumping?? Not sure, but maybe it would be less stimulating? What do others think?

I agree Grub... I feel VERY lucky to be a mum (another from an IVF background)... especially lucky that my 2 seem to be very happy relaxed children (except when suffering from reflux and constipation!!!) So I shouldn't complain...

Yeah I wonder about hand expressing..... Would love some other opinions!!!

niss x

Hello ladies Hope you all had a lovely mothers day

It was really just another day in this house. DF being a truckie, he was away working. My mum was here though. She came down to help look after the older two while I had Anna in hospital (Zach was with me also) so that was nice. I haven't spent mothers day with my mum for about 5 years! Got a few pressie from the kids (see blog) and apart from that it was spent doing the usual house work etc. With a family of 6 it never stops

As for teeth, Zach cut 6 teeth in under two weeks! I was quite surprised as Anna has had a tooth sitting just under the surface for about 5 months now. I was sure she would get teeth first but no, still none May be a bonus though as Zach discovered tonight that he can bite more than just fingers! *OUCH*

Also, without starting anything.....has anyone decided not to give thier LO's the 12 month vacc's? I have been reading up on this alot lately and I'm really torn as to what decision I should make. Yes there are the benefits of being 'covered' for illnesses but there is also a lot of things I have read about the 12 month vacc being the one that can potentially (sp?) cause the most problems. It really scared the life out of me.

How is everyone going with breastfeeding? We are still having 3 - 4 breastfeeds during the day (together) and at least one overnight (not together )! I have tried resettling them without a feed o/night but they just scream and as they are right next to each other I'm to worried they will wake the other one up. How many feeds is everyone else doing?

Lastly, its offical. DF leaves soon to start his new job on the 26th. That means its just me and kids living here until the house sells or the end of term. He will come home on weekends but its going to be so lonely not seeing him AT ALL during the week. Even though he works away most of the time he is usually home for at least a day or two during the week

Niss - I agree with grub on the hand expressing. It would definately be less sitmulating. Try it out

And Grub - Happy 11 months to Gabbie & Elke!

Its late so I better head off to bed and get some sleep. Night xx

Just a quicky to let you know we're still here and doing well. The boys seem to be over their colds.. although it didn't help when I didn't put their doonas on the other night.. its was 25 degrees when I put them to bed (damn the weather here runs hot and cold) so I only covered them with a couple of sheets, but it was 14 degrees in their room when they woke at 4am...
Sam started roling from his back to his front the other day and now does it virtually whenever I lie him down on the floor... i was so sure it was going to be Jack first, but he seems to have gone a little backwards since he was sick.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkNGFsft0p8

Just wanted to pop in and say that I've just discovered ABC's Playground Radio It's so cool, the Old School bit rocks. It even has the Oompa Loompa song from Willy Wonka and The Lions sleeps tonight.

I just went on to try and remember some of the Nursery Rhymes but this is awesome. I feel like a kid again, shame my girls are a bit little to appreciate it

i went to ABC playground radio and I agree!! It rocks!!!
Havent written the link on our whiteboard to use for future discos with the boys!
Totally unrelated to anything...i took the boys for a walk this morning and there were no grizzles, gripes or whinges!!!
Hoo-bloody-rah!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Am super excited...

Hello ladies,

Niss- Try the hand expressing in a hot shower- the heat seems to get it moving- and with no nipple stimulation it should make your supply slow quicker..

I tried the recommended fenugreek dose and found it has increased a little but this morning I seem to be a bit empty- so will up to 2 capsules three times a day and try and get my evening supply up....

better go- one baby is waking to be fed- have a good day all

Where do I find ABC Playground Radio? My two love music so it might be good for them.

2plustwins - mine bottle fed and are having 3-4 feeds a day too. These are 6am (upon waking), 11am and 6pm (before bed). Sometimes they'll have another one at 2.30ish, but I'm having success with them drinking water from a sippy cup so I'm going with that at 2.30pm, and giving them yoghurt/dairy based snack instead of milk.

And as you can see from the new photo in my sig, my two are now standing! BJ can stand unsupported for about 20 seconds and cruises the furniture really well, Gia is good at standing when she can hold on but hasn't let go yet. My babies are getting too big

Brissie gals... Anyone up for a meet up this Friday at 10.30am on Brisbane's southside? Another mum and I from the AMBA forums met last week and decided to get a more regular group happening with twins similar to the age of ours. I posted on the AMBA forums but I thought I'd post here too. If you're interested we'd love to have you so let me know and I can PM the details.

I'm glad a few of you can make it. Anyone else?

I would just like to share my exciting news!
Both Zake and Kaeleb rolled from back to front yesterday!!

Proud beaming Mumma!

Woohoo doubleornothing! Very exciting!

Brissie girls - Whose going to Kaz's meet tomorrow? I'm going to brave it with all 3 kidlets!

Unfortunately we're still too sick from AMBA Tiny Tots to be socialising yet.

Yes we're still snotty too Amy. Definitely not going back, at least over winter .

Yay Zake and Kaeleb!

Hi

Man I'm having a hard time of it at the moment... although on a positive, Ruby now sleeps from 11pm until 7am!!! And they are both good at sleeping at night (although Jacob still needs a feed at 3am). AND my supply has only JUST decreased to the point where I don't need to get up at night to express anymore!!! They are now formula fed 4x a day and fed EBM 2x a day. Soon it will be just formula. Its still making me really sad not to give them breastmilk though...

During the day if its not 1 screaming its the other! Ruby has severe reflux, to the point that even losec doesn't appear to work. She wakes and cries just before she spills, so I ASSUME it must be reflux!!! And then she just doesn't settle so we cuddle or put her in her swing. Trouble is, I don't want her to rely on the swing or cuddles in order to settle! What to do?!?!?!?!?

And Jacob has started getting what seems to be like colic? He just suddenly out of the blue starts screaming shrilly and I think it must be a bubble of wind/gas passing through him...

Anyway they are both asleep in their swings now (after hours of crying)

But after all this hard work, it really is worth it when they give you a huge smile!!!

Niss xx

Niss, the losec should be working if it is going to work by now! Can you make an appointment with the Paed and get Ruby reassessed? Also, are they now about 6-12wks adjusted? Sorry, I can't rememer how early they were but I know this is a time notorious for being a tough time for all babies. I know we had a awful time at that stage but it got heaps better when they turned 12 weeks.

Bec and Grub, I hope your babies get better soon - and I hope the rest of the family doesn't get it!

Go Zake and Kaeleb!

DH and I are both miserable too kazzil but the older girls seem to have missed it somehow. I hope you guys have fun and I look forward to finally meeting you all (those I haven't met) when we're all better .

Niss - 9w old (2w corrected) was our horror time where I really reached breaking point, but it does pass and you will get through. You're doing an awesome job, especially with the challenges you've had to face already in the journey.

We'll hopefully be there tomorrow.

Bec, I hope you all get better soon and your older girls don't get it!

It looks like there'll be 5 of us meeting up this morning. Considering the short notice, I think that is pretty good. Anyone else? It's not too late!

Hi!

Kazzil, yep I looked it up - they are 10 weeks old adjusted. Hopefully they'll settle down soon!

I left a message with the paed yesterday. No call back yet. I'm afraid he might think that its not reflux. But at the moment while I'm typing she's in there grunting and straining away, soon to cry, dummy still in, and I'll probably find she's had a spill when I go in there. But also she doesn't do this at night. Its so strange.

Have a great time today at your meet-up! I'm quite jealous! Its very wet here too...

OK she's crying now, I'd better go

Nerissa x

It was good to meet you Telli and Karla - your babies are adorable! So well behaved just laying there and having a good look around.

If only my two would decide to sit and play rather than want to be up and all over the place. Then I would be able to sit and have a proper chat like you two were able to too! I hope we didn't scare you knowing what you'll be in for in 6 months time.

Kazzil your post makes me both want to laugh and cry!!! I'm REALLY SCARED now!!!

n x

ETA its unbelievable - they are both fast asleep!!! And I'm just wasting this precious moment on the internet instead of doing housework

yeah!! i'll always told myself it'll get easier as they get older! - i have been known to chant these words whilst rocking in a corner....
hahahaaaaaa...you mean to tell me it doesn't??

BTW even though I'm stoked that both boys are rolling onto tummies...goodness me it can create some drama; what with them crashing into each other and kicking each other in the face etc etc.......

Link to "Little Multiples" thread.