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Mummalovin
Anyone see the story on a current affair about Allan Pease and his wife?

They had to do IVF to have their two sweet babes, a boy 3 and a girl 4 months.

Silly ACA and the Pease's were calling them twins. So who hasn't been reading their dictionary then LMAO.

So much like those people who say "I had mine 12 months apart so it was like twins"

OK so working on this premise I have Quads born in 2 halves and 3 yrs apart.

AH what a brave new world we live in cool.gif biggrin.gif
madcracker
Dh saw the promo for that and laughed his ass off laughing2.gif

He said it was like the pregnant she-male ph34r.gif laughing2.gif
gumby
I caught one of the ads for that segment and wondered if it would be some more ACA high class journalism. Glad to see I was right wink.gif

Oh, I have quads too wacko.gif laughing2.gif
jules095
ph34r.gif I was thinking that same thing. sick.gif
Laney
This really makes my blood boil rant.gif

To start off with I think this is a great story as apparently Barbara Pease is the oldest woman in Australia to give birth using her own eggs... Also Alan Pease has had two types of cancer and treatment which has left him with almost no sperm.

But the eggs would have been collected when BP was 41 ish, I feel this is misleading and gives some women the impression that they can wait and have babies at 45 with the help of IVF...

Then it really gets my back up when they discuss these babies birth as being 'Extraordinary' because they are twins born 3 years apart rant.gif

I guess all of the ladies out there that have 10 to 20 embryo's your babies are Decuplets +... There are many many women here on EB who's stories are much more 'extraordinary'. Mummalovin you were who I was thinking of when I wrote this wub.gif

And why on earth would you tell your child that you had his sister in the freezer (guessing they had PGD) blink.gif blink.gif They had no way of knowing if that embryo would implant... Then what do they tell the child??

Then what about the dad saying 'you have a living fetus that is frozen for 3 years then you defrost it and its got a heartbeat'... WTF!!! Again gives people the impression you are putting little tiny live babies in the freezer, defrosting them then bam you have a baby... rant.gif

I know this probably doesn't bother everyone, but its hard enough for people who face infertility to deal with the inaccurate information out there, without stories like this perpetuating the myths surrounding IVF and AC...

Then don't get me started on the comparisons and similarities with these 'unique twin' aarrgghh...

Even fraternal twins are no more alike than other siblings, so WTF???

eekk I'm glad I'm not the only one who finds this crazy...
~Levity~
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Then what about the dad saying 'you have a living fetus that is frozen for 3 years then you defrost it and its got a heartbeat'... WTF!!! Again gives people the impression you are putting little tiny live babies in the freezer, defrosting them then bam you have a baby...

That's the bit that got to me the most!!! How UTTERLY ABSURD AND STUPID. rant.gif
And for someone who's actually *done* IVF to say that, boggles my mind. I guess they didn't pay too much attention to the whole process... wacko.gif

Serves me right for being sucked in to watch the show, after seeing so many "miracle twins born 3yrs apart" promos. I should've known better rolleyes.gif
Que Sera Sera
blush.gif Mum mentioned that this segment had been advertised to me today. She said it was something to do with IVF...we discussed it and I said, no it must be something different because if it was "just" IVF, it would make these "twins" no different to a million other miracles out there .....alas, I was wrong though, guess ACA did manage to get their advertising correct though - sucked me in!!
Kerris
I'm glad I am not the only one that was really annoyed with this story. I thought there must have been something really different to 'normal' IVF but as I only caught bits and pieces of the story as I was running after my IVF twins I thought I had missed something important. Obviously not.

My boys are IVF fraternal twins, and we are thinking about implanting their 'triplet' sibling!!!!! Does that mean I can claim the multiple birth allowance from the government if it takes

Kerri
Lambie
I like how they names the baby Bella when she was still a frozen emby.. ummm.. I haven't had IVF myself but know it's a special thing if it 'takes' seems abit blindingly ignorant to just assume it will be a bub when they decided to implant!
Daisy Goat
So incredibly misleading to the general public. New Idea and Womans Day run crap stories like this all the time and it is infuriating.

That would mean that there are hundreds/thousands of children born years apart who are considered twins or HOM then. So not even that rare after all.

The Peases are intelligent people I can't believe how stupid they just chose to make themselves look. And for Alan to say they had a "growing fetus" is just plain wrong and ACA should have done a correction on it.

Then again even people who have done IVF think that ID twins can be separated in the petrie dish and one frozen so what hope is there for sharing of intelligent knowledge? ohmy.gif

Perhaps we should leave all our embryos in the dish to multiply like seahorses and just have the same genetic child over and over again
Mummalovin
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Then again even people who have done IVF think that ID twins can be separated in the petrie dish and one frozen so what hope is there for sharing of intelligent knowledge?


OMG I hadn't heard that one LMAO.

My kids were asking what was wrong went I was having a discussion with the telly during the story. After it was done I emailed ACA and told them I can do one better as "I have quads born 3 yrs apart" wacko.gif wink.gif Haven't heard back yet.

So who will be buying the book the Pease's are going to right about raising girls and boys? closedeyes.gif glare.gif
Daisy Goat
Ooh cant wait to see that one. Please please let them know they are all idiots!!!!!LOL
5kids4me
So does that mean that my kids are quads cause my eggs were all together in my ovaries at the same time. or maybe I have quints blink.gif

I too saw this story and it did make my blood boil. TWINS = 2 babies carried together in utero and born at the same time.

A 3yo and newborn is NOTHING like having twins rant.gif
bjd
Yeah, I saw the ad for this, but missed it unfortunately. I just thought to myself that it sounded weird.

OMG, I just watched the video on the internet - I just can't believe their comments on national TV - "snap frozen" and then "three years later there's a heartbeat"!
How could he say something so ridiculous - wasn't he present during any of this process??? When you first go through IVF the process is carefully explained and then you experience the process - so I would have thought this couple should know a lot better than tell such bullsh*t! mad.gif And shame on ACA for not researching the story better and actually finding out the facts about the IVF process.

Typical, though, isn't it? Arrr...the mind boggles...the couple are writing a book about the differences in raising boys and girls. How sneaky...probably a ploy to get publicity for this book - as far as they are concerned, it seems, who cares if people really know the facts. Would anyone with any intellegence actually trust a word this couple would write in this book?

No bloody wonder, so many of us have to put up with so much ignorance and lack of understanding re: our IVF multiples or IVF children in general. You would've thought that people would know better by now because IVF is not a new concept, for crying out loud. mad.gif Oh it makes my blood boil!

wacko.gif If we took a grain of what these stupid people were reporting, most of us who have gone through IVF would have "multiples waiting in the freezer." I for one, then, could be the future mum of quads born years apart. How utterly ridiculous.

Why are their children considered twins? Because they were from the same collection of eggs? In IVF that is not unique at all - so why was ACA and this couple trying to say that their situation is unique and in fact their children are twins and the only ones of their kind born this way? If their children are considered twins, then there are alot of IVF children out there who can also be considered twins, triplets and quads or more just because the embryos came from the same egg collection.

We should write in to ACA and give them the facts!
At least ACA should have interviewed the IVF doctor who performed this "miracle" for a take on the actual facts.
Laney
I'm so glad I wasn't the only one whose blood was boiling rant.gif

It really drives me crazy when fertility issues are misrepresented to the public.

Its so misleading also to say she had a baby at 45 with her own eggs when those eggs were probably collected at 40/41 yrs ohmy.gif

My FS also gets angry when the media make out its only women who put off having children who 'need' IVF...

I was so jumping up and down the other night for DH to get off the puter so I could get on here and 'vent' dev (6).gif
Lea79
I saw them on Sunrise a few months ago telling their "unique" story - what a load of crap rant.gif
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