Ladies, I have had TWO C-sections (count 'em!) The first was emergency - both myself and my DD would not be here if not for the surgeon's knife- and the second was advised to avoid shoulder dystocia of my 11 pound 15, 62 cm long absolute whopper of a DS.

So, does this make me any less of a woman?

I am posting this as someone on the home birth board has posted that home births are for "real women" only.

I must be SUCH a fake then!

Obviously it doesn't.
Need you ask really?

No, I am still a woman I think.
Being a woman has nothing to do with squeezing a baby out of your vagina. It has everything to do with being able to multi-task

I wouldn't worry about it. Some(and I mean some not all) think that way. Some others in there are really nice.

Nah.not really Cali, but I feel I must strike a blow for those who are maligned as "too posh to push". Plus, of course, I am merely being a stirrer

My mum had 2 c/s and always told me that she felt ripped off because that wasn't how you were meant to have babies. And how I should never have a c/s. So when I was pg with DD I was determined to have a VB. But I ended up with and emergency c/s.

So then when I was pg with DS I was determined to have a VBAC. But ended up with another emergency c/s. Both times the c/s was absolutely necessary and, like you, neither DS or I would be here if I had attempted a VBAC.

I don't feel any less of a women, I'm just happy to have two beautiful, healthy children.

I've also had 2 c/s and will more than likely have at least one more! Had I been able to give birth naturally first time round that would have been great but it didn't work out that way. I still carried my babies in my womb for 9 months and nurtured them and continue to do so to this day. As far as I'm concerned exactly HOW my baby came out has absolutely nothing to do with being a woman. Anyone who thinks so is probably insecure about their own womanhood or incredibly self-righteous.

*snort*

I read that comment, had a chuckle and moved on.

I've had two vaginal births and one c/section. Maybe I WAS a real woman and now I'm not anymore

Besides, I think it takes more than a vagina to make a woman.

i think that c/s should be avoided wherever possible. obviously if medically indicated that is a different matter.

i have had 3 c/s's - am i less of a woman? well i guess the answer is yes given i am now short a womb or two (ok, only one really)

OM*G how many times do i need to edit to spell Y-E-S right????

I did the same thing.

I think that is the best idea.

There are many things here on EB, and IRL that are so absurd they deserve nothing more than a laugh at how sad ( or perhaps pathetic) some people are.

I say go for a c/s. I also had a 11pounder 56.5cms long born by emergency c/s.

Does it really matter how you baby is born? as long as baby is healthy.

I think you have a very vaild reason to have another c/s

good luck

Trudie

Personally, prolapsed organs from a "natural" birth make me feel less womanly than a caesarean section would have done.

I feel really lucky to have birthed both my big babies naturally (anyone who tries to tell me it wasn't natural because I had epidurals can go jump as well)

I do think that c-sections should be avoided unless medically necessary, and that alot of doctors are a bit scalpel happy... but at the end of the day I feel no differently towards women who have had c-sections, emergency or otherwise. It's their body, their business.

Haha, it made me smile too. Real women are born with ovaries, a uterus and a vagina. Simple really. Unless you are a medical miracle of a transsexual who has managed to gestate

Like Pillywiggins said, water off a ducks back. You know you are a real woman, even though you had your children via surgical births. Just like I let the 'irresponsible nutjob' label fly past

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If a person decides you are not a real woman because you haven't pushed a baby out of your vagina then they are an idiot.

My thoughts exactly

Well I didn't see the comment 'cause I don't hang out there but come on, surely you don't buy into that sh*t???

Personally, I will try and avoid one unless medically necessary. I felt a sense of pride when I gave birth to her and am prepared for the next child.

That whole post is a laugh tbh.

And instead of saying anything I'll regret, this little guy can portray my thoughts.

All I will say is lucky there are C/Sections as otherwise I would not have my two children. Not because there was anything life threatening, either. I couldn't care less what others think.

I'm sure that whoever said that was in your situation they would think differently.

whoever said that is closed minded... so ignore them. No woman, is "less" of a woman, no matter how you have your baby.

People tend to throw these things around thoughtlessly. It is only natural for people to champion their cause, but I fail to see why people have to step on others to climb their way to their high horse.

I am pro-whatever-birth-you want. I am envious of homebirthers who have a wonderful experience. A vaginal birth would be a medical impossibility for me, and I am as 'woman' as they come.

These comments about there only being One Best True Way bother me a bit - I didn't have a choice (No Really! I really, really cannot give birth vaginally! Truly!) but I let it slide as part of human nature - these 'champions' are better educated in some ways than I, and I than them in some ways.

Open-mindedness to diversity is such a wonderful thing.

I am locking this, as threads cannot be started that are directly discussing something a member said elsewhere.

If you have an issue with what another member posts somewhere, then the best thing to do is PM that person and ask for clarification.

regards