Breastfeeding in Public 2005

We've now headed into World Breastfeeding Week, August 2005:
*"Breastfeeding and Family Foods: Loving and Healthy" is this year's theme for World Breastfeeding Week, celebrated from 1-7 August in over 120 countries"


QUESTIONS FOR DISCUSSION

1. We're almost five years into the new century. In 2005, where are we at in regards to acceptance, approval and encouragement for breastfeeding in public?

2. For those who breastfed 5, 10, 20 or any number of years ago - How do you think things have changed or not changed?
What has been your experience?

3. What are your personal experiences of breastfeeding in a public area? (You can also tell us about the experiences of your family & friends - no identifying names please)
If any of your experiences are outside of Australia, please tell us where.


Links - please have a read

Australian Breastfeeding Association
http://www.breastfeeding.asn.au/default.htm
*source of quote above

Breastfeeding In Public - Elizabeth Pantley
http://www.essentialbaby.com.au/Pantley/Pantley200508.cfm

Health Insite: http://www.healthinsite.gov.au/news/World_Breastfeeding_Week_and_Breastfest


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This message was edited by ~Anni~ on Tuesday, 2 August 2005 @ 12:11 PM

I'm going to be a mum for the first time in October and I'm really looking forward to breastfeeding. I think after I get comfortable and used to breastfeeding, it won't be an issue for me to breastfeed in public, however I am going to find good breastfeeding tops that don't reveal too much.

I know there will always be people who stare - whether from intrigue, the novelty factor or even annoyance/disgust. But that's a reality. And the more women breastfeed in public, the more people will accept it as something natural and normal.

Cheers
Margot.

After MAJOR problems in our first 6 weeks of breastfeeding I have ENORMOUS pride in the fact that my DS has never ever had a bottle or formula!

Now at 11 months + we often get comments such as 'are you STILL feeding him', 'don't you think it's long enough' and DH's grand-ma's standard comment of 'I think 6 weeks is more then enough! This has gone on far too long now'.

I still feed my son on demand. A normal day for us is about 6 feeds in 24 hours. Some are just comfort feeds and others are proper feeds.

I have absolutely no hesitation feeding in public. However now he is a bit older if I feed in public I only do so when I know he is really thirsty as I don't feel comfortable with him going off and on because he is too busy looking around. So generally no comfort feeds in public.

In regards to where do I feed in public....... you name we have feed there! Restaurents, cafes, shops ect ect. Last weekend we went to Sydney and I feed him at the Boat Show and the Football Bulldogs vs Rabbitohs game!

I always ensure that I am covered up; for my own privacy (not for any one else ).

I have never had any ask me not to feed DS. Or any rude comments from strangers whilst feeding. Trust me I am waiting for them! But watch out because I have many many responses saved in my mind LOL!!!

"How long do I plan to feed DS" - well WHO now recommends that babies are breastfeed to at least 2 years. I hope that we will get to that milestone! I will be letting DS self wean when he is ready..... hopefully it's before his third birthday

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This message was edited by babyboy on Tuesday, 2 August 2005 @ 12:27 PM

I have always had positive experiences b'feeding in public. I have alway refused to go and sit in parents rooms, instead feeding DD wherever we were - food courts, restaurants on benches outside supermarkets, in the car.

I guess I felt quite aggressive about it to begin with as I had built an enormous issue out of breast feeding in public, given the media attention it has had. So I was determined to feed my DD wherever and whenever she needed to be fed.



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And I tried to be discreet but was never all that concerned if people saw a bit of nippleage! I figure that people are quite comfortable ogling breasts all over media as sexual body parts, so they can bloody well deal with seeing a breast actually doing what it was designed for! And if they're uncomfortable well I'm sorry but that is their problem, not mine.

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I never had any problems Breast feeding public till DS got to about 6 months old and he used to come on and off the breast all the time during feeds as he had a cold and stuffy nose at the time. I was at our local shopping centre and he needed to be fed do I took him down to the food court area and got my self a drink sat down and started to feed him and then I was screamed at by an old lady saying that it was disgusting and I had no right to feed him there I should have been either in the toilets or the parents room. At this particular shopping centre I wouldn’t use the parent’s room because it’s just gross and stinks like baby poo. As for going to the toilets to feed I asked her if she ate her lunch in the toilet. So after me saying my bit back to her she then had centre management come down and ask me to feed him somewhere else to which I refused because he needed to be fed and they wouldn’t have said that if I were giving him a bottle of formula. So all I did was get out a muslin baby wrap and put it over my shoulder so no one could see even tho I didn’t agree with it. But this is the only problem I have ever had used to get the strange looks and people staring but if they ever said anything I used to say do people stare at you when you eat your lunch and they’d soon look away. I continued to feed him till he was 8 months old and I also used to get the whole he’s too big to be sucking on that and the hasn’t he got teeth yet and the only reason I stopped feeding him then was because he kept on biting me and he almost drew blood. I am due to have our next baby in November and I am hoping that I can feed this one till as least 12 months so fingers crossed.

Now the family part of my Breast feeding no one on my DH’s side of the family would go shopping with me when DS was a baby because they all think that breastfeeding in general is disgusting and wrong and well we’ve had a few heated conversations about the subject and well I don’t care because I know that I’m doing what’s best for my baby. SIL used to keep saying to DS from when he was about 4 months old that’s yucky every time I’d feed him. Also she’d say when can I give him a bottle or when can I feed him. Just annoying and I used to say you can’t because I am. DS also went from the breast straight to a training cup. So she was a bit upset that she never got to feed him and this time around she bought me a breast pump so that she can feed him but ummm that’s what she might think.


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I to get lots of comments from friends 'are you still feeding', "When are you just going to put her on the bottle', 'Can't believe you are still feeding her, she is neearly one and has teeth,yuk!"

One friend even said it doesn't seem right, i will def not feed when i have kids......What The....it is the most natural thing in the world.

DD is 81/2 months and have no intentions to stop, i love it, when she plays with my necklace, looks up at me, it is the best experience.

I was very worried throughout my pregnancy that i wouldn't be able to feed but am so glad all worked out for the good.

Yeah we had issues, sore cracked nipples that bled for the first 4 weeks, and a dose of mastitis in between that, but perserverence payed of.

I still feel a little uncomfortable feeding in public(prob due to all negative comments i recieve, and tend to visit parents rooms to feed her, or the car if out at soccer etc.But am slowly getting more confident, it seems to depend on who i am with.

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I have always had good experiences of feeding in public. I only ever use a baby feeding room if I need it to contain my toddlers whilst trying to feed - I'm not keen on running after 2 year olds with a baby attached to the breast. But as far as restaurants, church etc go I think I have fed everywhere and anywhere. I was feeding Sienna when we had a holiday to Singapore. She was only 4 months old and I did get comments there asking if she had a bottle as well. Apart from that, I've never had any comments.
The only time I have felt uncomfortable about feeding in public, or even at other people's places was when Sienna was still feeding and I was pregnant with Maia. Once I was showing I decided that I would no longer feed her unless we were at our house. This was a good compromise which didn't upset her too much (distraction works well for her!) and she will still have the occasional feed at home.
I am in Canberra and breastfeeding in public has been in the news and talked a lot about on the radio etc recently. It has stunned me, to say the least, how many people ring talkback etc and say that they find b/f in public to be inconsiderate, inappropriate etc. I always just assumed it was normal and necessary and everyone knew that. It seems though that bottle feeding is seen as the norm these days and b/f is not.

I am proud to have been a breastfeeding mum to both dd's. I fed my first DD til she was 2 and she weaned herself as i was 8w pg with DD2. I fed dd2 for 2.5years til i was pg again and she weaned herself when i was 6w. I m/c later.

I have been told to sit in the Mothers Rooms at a shopping centre, but it was an older lady saying this. I replied with my baby is having her morning tea with me.

A family member was quite disgusted that i was still feeding when my dd's were approaching 2 and said " dont you think that is a bit extreme"

My mother BF my DB til he was 4 and she is very proud of it, though i tend to think that 4 is a bit extreme.

I am very grateful to my Employer who allowed me to return to work and breastfeed at breaks when my DH brought the kids in. I was discreet, in fact most staff didnt even know they had come in to be fed.

I think there is nothing more wonderful than seeing a mum breastfeeding and i admire those i see bf in public.

I look forward to my time again.

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I am still partially breastfeeding my DD at 9 months, and intend to carry on until she decides to stop, she only has one or two BFs a day now, but I never had any problem feeding her in public.

If anyone gives me a look while I'm feeding then I just give them one straight back which says "come and say something to me, I DARE YOU", and have never had a single comment.

The only thing I'm starting to get now is the when am I going to stop questions, but I just say I'll stop when either me or her wants to, and then say about the WHO recommendations of 2 years plus. Some peoples faces are a picture when they hear that, but I have to say I kind of enjoy freaking prudish people out! :eg:

I've breastfed 2 children to 14 months, and am currently breastfeeding number 3.
I have always breastfed in public and can't bear the thought of using a parenting room.
I have never had a negative comment or been made to feel uncomfortable about feeding. I often had people ask about length of feeding - but always felt this was in a positive slant ie how long are you going to feed for as opposed to how long before you stop.

My first public BF encounter was aweful though it never stopped me BF in public.
My ds was all of 6 weeks old, it was the first time i had left the house by myself with him and well.. I knew when he had to be fed, and as a demand fed baby.. i would feed him if he had to be fed.
We had gone to the city for the day, so see some of my GF as a lot of them hadnt had the chance to see alot of my and my son. well the day in the city was great, i fed in the cafe we went to for lunch and we did a spot of shopping, it wasnt until i was on the train home and DS wanted another feed, so i picked him up and started to feed him on the train.. well this old lady looked at me with discust and went on about how i shouldnt be feeding him there.. there were too many people on the train.. we were only 1 stop from the city.. and we had the whole line to travel, so my reply to her was "i'm sorry.. i shouldnt be feeding him?? why not.. he's hngry and needs to be fed, if you want to hear him cry for a feed are you going to stay on the train and settle him until we get off??" i got no reply from her and gave another comment " ohh i didnt think so.. so if you dont mind.. theres a whole train that way.. if you dont like it.. sit up there" i was rather suprised at my abrupt rudness at the lady.. but how dare she? the train applauded and as a young mum i was kind of thankful that they hadnt turned on me.. but agreed with me on the comments i had made.

I've found that a lot of elderly ladys dont see Bfing as the done thing, but having said that, many of them were brought up that way.

Firstly, congratulations to all the mums who have breastfed for any length of time. You have given your babies such a great start in life!

I have to admit (being a lactavist and all!!) that I've always breast fed in public with that kind of 'dare you to say anything' look on my face. I've never been bothered, and yes, I still feed my nearly 3 year old in public.

Funny BIP story - when DS was quite little, I had a huge supply, and a fast, hard let down. I was sitting chatting to a friend over lunch, when he wanted a feed. I attached him, my milk let down, he pulled off spluttering, and my let down managed to spray across the table, over my friends shoulder and on the floor. Now that it a let down!! I'm so glad that my friend is another 'lactavist' and calmly moved all the food out of the spray, and helped me mop the floor up *g*

Great topic!

I fed DS1 until he was 20mths with all intentions to go until he was 2 but I fell PG with DS2 - but DS1 was certainly old enough to walk up and ask for it DS2 is now 9mths and still going strong and I will be doing child led weaning with him. My mother BF my brother until he was 3.

I flop it out wherever I am After I got over those initial 8 weeks of bleeding tortured nipples with DS1, I have never felt shy or felt like I was doing the wrong thing. I am lucky to be able to BF quite discreetly i.e many people have thought I am just holding bubs rather than feeding and get surprised! I have even BF walking down the coles aisles and no one noticed lol! That was an emergency situation though.

My family and ILs have always been fully supportive of extended BFing and DH thinks is fantastic, which is the best support of all in my book.

I have always found it very odd that people are disgusted by public BF or BF in general. Even when I was a young single girl, I never thought it was gross. I guess its the kind of family environment you grow up in. My family were always open about the subject and I was made to feel it was the most natural thing in the world.

YAY for breastfeeding in public and BOO to anyone who thinks its unnatural or makes BFers feel uncomfortable!


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This message was edited by pixiedeep on Tuesday, 2 August 2005 @ 3:41 PM

Having yet to achieve this marvellous phenonmen I can only glance and smile in wistful appreciation of anyone I see breastfeeding their child (in public or otherwise). It seems that the disapproval swings both ways doesn't it - you are either breastfeeding for "too long" or "not long enough" if you don't manage to get past all the difficulties at the start and bottle feed your baby. I have actually been on the receiving end of some rather extreme advice in a parents room when I was bottle feeding my second daughter about how I should have tried harder and that I hadn't done my daughter any favours by not breastfeeding her - it was expressed milk but I wasn't given the opportunity to say that at the time. She was given breast milk for as long as I was able to manage it - it just wasn't straight from the natural container.

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Hi, I BF DS until he was 23 months and I was 14 weeks pregnant with DD (due Nov) when he weaned himself. He still pops on for a single suck if he catchs me in bed but looks so sad there's nothing there. I guess he might start feeding again when my milk for DD comes in?? I'll play it by ear.

After 6 weeks of HELL initially with DS I was so proud to make it to 3 months and then it just pottered on with me making the decision that as long as I could feed him and he wanted it I would.

Extended BF turned out to be a blessing with us making 6 long-haul flights in 6 months due to my dying father. BF was the only way to keep him quietly occupied. I have NEVER had a comment on any airline or airport about BF and I was pretty much "hanging out" with an 18 monther in an economey seat LOL!

I've never really BF in public in Sydney. I'm a size 22 and it was the boobies I didn't like it was all my fat so to speak. Once I found New Beginings and Fresh-for-Mums BF tops I was happy to.

I used parenting rooms alot. Even as a early bub DS was easily distracted and I found the curtaining made HIM feed alot more easily when out and about.

On returning to work I took him away with me and DH to a conference (DH has same job) and fed him on the floor outside the room I was about to give a seminer in. I did get approched but centre managment and told of the parents room but Iknow it was for my comfort rather than "they didn't want me feeding" IYKWIM

Today at Westfield I saw a Mums group of mums with 10+ 3 months old bubs who were ALL bottle fed. I suddenly made me wonder if we gravitate to Mums who 'feed the same' as of my RL friends I only have one who bottle feds and we would all get together for coffee when bubbas were young and 'swing the boobie' together.

I still think we've got a long way to go when it comes to acceptance of breastfeeding in public. I think some of the old attitudes still prevail. Does it deter me? No, never. However it does annoy me that people think you should closet yourself away and not be seen.

For instance, I was at a wedding and I was told by a waitress that they had a large toilet and I should breastfeed in there. It was just a large cubicle and there wasn't another room with a couch in there, so I told her that I would breastfeed where I was seated at the reception. She looked horrified. This was at a very well known place in Sydney and I was shocked that they were not up on the anti-discrimination laws. I wasn't about to miss out on any of the speeches or closet myself away when it was my family member that had just got married!

And that's why I choose to breastfeed where I like. I don't see why I should have a "Time Out" so to speak, when I have to breastfeed. Why shouldn't I be able to breastfeed discreetly at a table in a cafe or restaurant? Why should I have to leave a party or room so as to not make others uncomfortable?

When I had my first child I did leave the room and go somewhere quiet, and I got so angry because it was like I had been banished. I had nothing to be ashamed of. So I decided to be very open about it. Eventually everyone got used to it and if they didn't then that was their problem.

Having said that, when my first and second child did get older, it was hard to keep them at the breast with all the noise. They would keep on lifting their heads to look around and would take off my shawl in the process exposing me. So in the end I had to find somewhere quiet like a mothers room etc.

But on the whole I became oblivious to anyone else and I didn't even notice people staring. I was so oblivious that I would just seat myself down anywhere and breastfeed. I once breastfed my second child in the Sydney Aquarium, and found an empty bench seat right outside the entry to the shark area. Well, I didn't realise it was a busy thoroughfare and groups of Japanese Tourists started filing by looking at me in disbelief or shock. Some of the men were actually a bit lewd and I understood some of what they were saying as I speak Japanese.

When two men started staring at me blatantly (maybe they were hoping for a peek! LOL), I said in fluent Japanese. "Well, if you are that interested then don't stare, take my photo!" And they nearly passed out. My sister on the other hand was mortified and wanted me to go to the mothers room. Unfortunately she has never understand my need to breastfeed, nor my stance about doing it whereever I want. I didn't care, I was chuffed. I know it isn't something you see in Japan and they weren't used to seeing it, so I guess I played my part in teaching them Australian culture!

Do I think attitudes have changed over time. Seven years ago when I breastfed my DD I think it was the same. However I think my attitude changed over that time and became more confident. I do see new mothers and see them hesitate about breastfeeding in public. And I know my sister and some of her friends felt a stigma and so chose to use the bottle on that basis. I wish we all took a stand and led by example. The only way it will become the norm is if more women breastfeed in public.

This message was edited by mumonthego on Tuesday, 2 August 2005 @ 4:16 PM

I always fed DD out in public if she was hungry, and figured that if people had a problem with me feeding my daughter they could look the other way or go elsewhere. Its not like we're exposing our boobs in a sexual way; its the main design function of them.

I don't know if attitudes have changed in recent years, as I still think many young girls think breastfeeding is awful/not something you do in public, and a big factor to this attitude is the high prevalence of sexualising everything in first world countries. Sex is used to sell just about everything, so we can forget what things used to be for.

Savanna

I only breast fed DS til 5 1/2 months at which time he refused to feed from me! which was hugely dissapointing for me.

I'm still breast feeding DD tho, she'll be 3 in october...... i've never had anyone say anything to me while breast feeding in public. But i have had many people say to me 'oh are you still feeding her' 'when do u plan to stop' or 'she'll be 10 before you get her off' and that really annoys me as all i am doing is providing my daughter with the most natural thing in the world....... i had hoped that she would self wean but i dont see that as being likely now as we approach her 3rd birthday! *L* we both really love the bonding time....... but we have started to tell her that maybe when she's 3 there went be anymore 'boozie' which is her name for it!

Hi there.

I am 26, Mum to a now 2.5yo. My son was breastfed to some extent until he was over 1yo. I guess I began breasfeeding him in public from the time he was say....1 month old? That is whenever it was that breastfeeding became easy in terms of attaching him and holding him comfortably (difficult when you have big saggy boobs LOL).

Now I never came accross a location where I was not comfortable breastfeeding him. That said, we never went to church, or a wedding etc. etc. I may have decided not to be so public in such a situation.

I *never* had a negative experience or comments directed towards me, but maybe I was lucky? Places I fed Iain include a seat in a busy shooping mall, food courts, cafe's, resteraunts, friends places etc etc.

Often a 'parents' room was not available, or if it was (such as the one in Darwin's shopping centre), they are too small and crowded generally, and smell like formular poo (bleh!!).

My thoughts on breastfeeding in public are as follows:

1) Be as discrete as you can - I once saw a woman, pull up her tight singlet, undo her bra, and then leave her boob totally exposed in the middle of the shopping centre while she walked 5 metres to catch her escaping child (who had already escaped before she undid her bra btw). Each to their own I guess, but I don't see that as being particularly considerate of other peoples religious beleifs etc.

That being said, I never used a blanket to "cover up" as my son hated it. I just made a concerted effort to reveal no more than I had to, if that makes sense.

2) It is MY CHILDS RIGHT to be fed when he is hungry, in a place that is pleasant. He shouldn't be "discriminated" against because he is breastfed, as opposed to babies that are formular fed and are "allowed" to be fed anywhere.

I think generally, attitudes to BF in public are improving. I think that most people know that even if they don't approve that their comments will not be welomed and supported by the majority. I always always supported (or at least never discouraged) by my immediate and extended family, dispite the fact that they are genrally all FF or "BF for 3 months only" type people.

That being said, I am still awed at the stupidity of some organisations (such as the womans gym mentioned in another thread) that don't realise they are going to get POUNDED for asking women not to breastfeed their children. There has been so many high profile situations, I would have thought that they would have learned from the mistakes of others.

Anyway...there's my thoughts.

OH.....and I have having another baby boy in November and will brestfeed him too, in public, so it will be interesting to see whether attitudes differ from Darwin (DS1) to Perth (DS2)....I must say, I have seen much less BF in public here then I did up north.

What a wonderful discussion.

I've never had one comment (that I know of) about breast feeding in public. I breastfed DD1 until she was 16 months old, had a 3 month gap, and commenced feeding DD2. DD2 is now 2 yrs and 1 month and is still on the boob. I don't need to feed her in public these days because I can distract her until we get to a comfy lounge. But I have friends that think its crazy that I am still feeding. Why do they care or have an opinion either way? DD2 isn't their child.

I can't believe that people think breastfeeding in public is disgusting or inappropriate or wrong etc etc. So its OK to see boobs on TV, on the beach and nearly falling out of clothing but to see a baby/toddler using boobs for what they were created for is offensive... I just don't understand this world sometimes.

I breastfed DD until she was 8 months old (4 months exclusively), and decided early on that I was going to do it in public if necessary and was WELL supported by family (my mum actually is a bit pushy in that direction). I didn't have any comments about it either - a couple of disgusted looks but no one willing to tell me off for it.
The thing that really got me was the attitude of the nurses in the hospital where I had her!!! I was given very little help in trying to feed her and most of the advice I did have was not helpful. So I couldn't attach her properly for the first couple of days and hence my milk didn't come in as early as 'would be expected'. Then I had terrible trouble trying to keep her attached for any length of time because she wasn't really getting anything! So we get to day three and I am instructed to put her on formula. I was not happy about this idea but as a new mum I was worried about her and so I did - but luckily I did follow my gut feeling and continued to attempt bf before topping up with the bottle. It was a really difficult couple of weeks after that, trying to build up my supply again but I did ditch the bottle 7 days after leaving hospital and never looked back. I just can't help feeling that with more encouragement and better advice in the first place life would have been so much easier!
I bf DS until 4.5 months when he suddenly decided that mum wasn't enough thankyou but would suck huge quantities of formula from the bottle! I didn't argue since he is able to hold the bottle and that leaves my hands free for other things. I have only had one comment about bf him in public - I was in the shopping centre and this little old lady walked past, gave me a thumbs up and said "Good on ya love!".


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1. I've found when ever I breast feed my kids (One in 2002 and one in 2005) I have had only a few bad comments and lots of uncomfortable looks. Yes once I have started to have a bit of a cry cause of them and I hate feeling as though I'm the one who should have to hide!
2. I bf my daughter for a year in 2002 and believe it or not it was alittle worse then. People are warming to the idea and we have more rights now...
3. I think only only once my DH felt the need to tell a man to stop looking at my breast and eat his food (we were in a food court) he's really great and makes me feel more confitdent about it.
I think personally bfing my children (I'm not feeding my DD anymore) was probably the smartest thing I've ever done, In their first year neither of them (so far) have even had a sniffle!

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Well despite the recent evenyts of late with b/feeding and discrimination, I have had no other troubles. I am very discreet (not that it would matter to me either way, as I view breasts as purely functional now days). There have been many times when people have asked if I am just holding my son, or feeding him. I have b/fed my son in church, shops, the car, cafes, restaurants, park benches - WHEREVER we are at the time he needs a feed.

Before this whole unfortunate incident I had avery differnt view. I belived that many more people were accepting of it. I have know been enlightened to learn some very sad views about b/feeding. I am just astounded to hear that people actually do think it is "disgusting", "inconsiderate" etc. How can something so natural be viewed this way?

Anyway, aside from this, I will continue to feed my DS wherever he needs it.

I hope to feed him until he is 2 as recommended by the WHO. I am thinking that it will be mainly night time and comfort feeds by then, but none the less I am happy to let him call the shots

I hope that as mums we can help to educate our society about the importance of acceptance for b/feeding.

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Sorry, just wanted to know what the relevance of how long any of you breastfed is?
It wasnt asked in the OP thats all.

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I've had some shocking moments while breastfeeding in public. At a restaurant on the goldcoast with a group of friends celebrating my sons birth and was asked to feed in the bathroom (which btw was just the toilet and a basin, no chair, no room) and when I said no I was told then I would have to leave. Since our food had just arrived I went and sat on the bathroom floor and fed my 5 day old son.

Ever since then I have been determined to feed where ever I want. Always discretely. But my son comes first and if you can't handle that? guess what I don't want to send my business your way anyhow.

In hospital recently after my son had his operation for grommets, adnoids and tonsils removed (he was a couple of months off 3) I asked if it would be alright to feed him as I knew that would settle him. And the looks I got from the nurses. You would of thought I had just tried to smother him, and from my room you could hear them commenting and gossiping about it. I wish I had said something but I had to settle my son.

I also got all the comments about how you should stop feeding them at 3 days old as then they have gotten the antibodies. About how it is barbaric, how it is disgusting and all the rest. But I knew that it was the best thing for my boy, so despite all of the critisms and the nasty nasty phone calls I kept going.

It isn't easy and sadly a lot of the older attitudes haven't changed. It's not often accepted, approved of or even understood why we feel so strongly about this issue, and the health benefits for the babies.

Well I only fed for 6 1/2 mths, but must say I never had a bad experience feeding in public.

This included in the first 3 weeks feeding at DH's work function. I was not really capable at that stage and needed a pillow under DS, so just jumped in a chair and grabbed my pillow (that I had taken for the purpose) and fed. 3 weeks later (when DS was 6 weeks) I fed him in the BMW corp "room" at the aus open golf, with not even a thought from anyone else. I just sat on the couch near the bar and fed.


To the person who asked why are you saying how long you fed, I think the relevance is that people will often get "comments" if the child is older. It also gives people a indication for "how often" you may have fed in public. if you stopped b/feeding at 3 weeks, you probably didn't feed out much.


Anna
SAHM, Breast Cancer Survivor

This message was edited by johnandanna on Wednesday, 3 August 2005 @ 8:59 AM

Hi There,

I really enjoyed b/fing my two beautiful girls but sadly I believed they had 'weaned themselves' at around 4 months of age and put them on formula. I have since found out that it is quite natural for babies of that age to begin to fuss and for the let down to slow down. If had been aware of this I would still be feeding my second DD.

When my older brother was born my mother had great difficulty breastfeeding him. From what she discribes to me now it sounds as if she had the same problems I did with DD#1. Engorgement and incorrect attachment. Sadly for her, my brother and me (as she didn't even try to feed me) she was made to feel inadequate and was not given any assistance to remedy these problems. When I had DD#1, I had midwives visit each day for a week once I went home and they picked up the problems and had us admitted to a Tresillian Centre. It was there that we (DD, Myself AND DH) learnt the fine art of b/fing. I am so grateful for this. I went on to have asthma, eczema, food intollerances (particularly cows milk) and food allergies and I wonder how much this had to do with the fact that I didn't even get any colostrum as a baby (I have now been through a desensitisation programme and have no problems with food or asthma but I still suffer badly from eczema).

I wonder what the statistics on the health of bottle fed babes as opposed to b/f are? Don't get me wrong I am the LAST person to start the whole bottle v breast debate (remember my babies were on formula from 4 mths!) but maybe peoples attitudes might change if they could see just how good b/fing is for our future (as that's what our babies are. Also the costs to the community, both health wise and environmentally, as I believe there must be a cost to the environment to produce the formula and bottles and to clean the bottles.

I also reside just outside the ACT and have been terribly saddened by the issues that Mel_Mac and Charling have been facing. It has also been sad to read that people in the ACT have attitudes such as that it is disgusting and innappropriate. I always fed my girls wherever and whenever they needed it. And that is the whole point. They NEEDED it. I also found it quite difficult to feed in the 'Parents' room at my local shopping centre as it always smelled like there were 200 dirty nappies in there (which there probably was!) and why should I feed my baby in what is essentially a toilet? It is the 21st centuary - I thought we left these antiquated attitudes behind in the victorain era.

We would like to have another baby in a couple of years and again I will be overjoyed to feed my baby with the most natural food available - breastmilk. And this time I hope I can get over the 4 month hump!

Bottom line as I see it - we do the best we can for our babies, whether it is to breast feed or bottle feed them and we should be supported no matter what. These babies are our future, lets look after them.

JMHO,

Rach

DD#1 - 27/12/2000
DD#2 - 17/01/2005
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I had great pride in the fact that my DS was breast fed exclusively for six months, with him being weaned off the breast at eleven months. I felt that I'd given my child the best start that I could. I also felt that we bonded very strongly.
Whenever I bf in public, I always did it so discreetly that hardly anyone could tell. Only people who stared could really tell. Luckily I never had anyone come up to me and tell me off, but my SIL (who's 34, childless, and old enough to know better) subtly warned me of what she thought of bf in public. She said she thought it was "disgusting", and she had told off a woman who was bf at the shops.
Anyway, I have absolutely no problem with bf in public, and frankly, I think people who do (especially if you cover up) are prudes, and it's their problem not mine!

ME 35
DP 39
DS 24/04/03
? EDD 06/01/06

Q1. I think the acceptance and approval of breastfeeding in public has grown over the last few years. I know myself that I can still recall Kate feeding on 'The Panel' and the issue that happened on 'My Restaurant Rules'. When instances like this occur, the public debate reopens and I feel as though whilst most people accept and approve of breastfeeding in public, there is still a section of the public that finds it offensive on a number of levels. I am slightly disturbed that some people begin to associate b'feeding in public with changing a nappy in public and leaving a soiled nappy in close proximity. It amazes me that the image of b'feeding a child could cause someone to think of the end result - much like one of those dolls that wees after it has had a feed.

Q3. With current problems aside, I have rarely had a problem b'feeding in public and most Saturdays during my DS first weeks of life, I was b'feeding walking up and down the aisles of the local supermarket carrying him like a little football.
I am conscious of being 'considerate' to others and I use a tip that my cousin gave me of wearing a singlet top under my tops so I don't expose any skin and it is very difficult to notice if I am feeding - this is just my choice. I don't like the idea suggested in one of the links that I should cover my child with a wrap or sheet to shield him from view. If anything he would be distracted or feel bunched in and I think it would be drawing more attention to myself. When I went back to work when my DD was 10 weeks, most people assumed that I wouldn't continue to b'feed at all. It was a challenge and although she had expressed feeds during the week days, it was nice on weekends to go back to having her feeds 'on tap' no matter where we were although I didn't b'feed very long.
I can understand why some women feel self conscious about b'feeding in public, especially with some of the comments I have heard lately like 'isn't there somewhere we can go where you aren't feeding?'. Well, if we still need to educate some of the public, hopefully in another five years time, this question won't need to be asked, b'feeding in public will just be the accepted norm.
Kath

I bf'ed both of my kids until they were about 12 months. This was about 4 and 6 years ago. Although I did get a few 'looks' while I was feeding in public, most of my problems came from my mum who was dead against bf'ing at all. She was always at me with all the same rubbish Luchre listed in her post. I think women of my mum's generation are some of the worst when it comes to feeding in public. That's certainly where I got most of my disapproving looks from.

I feel as though there are a lot of people who think bf'ing in public is some kind of political stunt. As though women are just doing it to make a point. That sort of thinking really ticks me off.

I live in Canberra and have been following the furore over the incident in the gym. I have been shocked by how many people have come out and said that it's disgusting and shouldn't be allowed. Until all this blew up I thought that the most people were OK with it these days. Guess I was wrong.

Cheers,

Cathy

Couldn't not chime in on this one, since I'm pretty passionate about b/feeding. My answers will be purely my experiences and opinions, tho'. I will state how long I've b'fed each baby, so people can gain insight into how much b/feeding I've done in order to reach my answers, as it really does make a difference to the levels of acceptance and approval a mum gets.

DD1 - b/fed for 4.5 months. I HATED it, but felt that it was the best thing for her, so persevered that long. Only ever fed in baby rooms, in the car, etc. Too self-conscious to b/feed in public.

DS - before he was born, thought I'd go straight with formula given my experience with DD1. That changed the minute he was born. B/fed for 8 months, and was shattered when he weaned at that age - wanted to go for 12 months. Started to b/feed in public this time.

DD2 - 2.5 years, all the way through a pregnancy. Was not b/fed in public beyond 18 months, and even close family have not got a clue I b/fed her that long.

DD3 - still going strong Still happily b/feeding in public.

1. I think we're doing well in terms of acceptance, approval and encouragement. Although for me, that varies with whom I'm in the company of, and what said company has come across in their experience of breastfeeding. My mother has only finally come to accept that breastfeeding, where possible, is a good thing for baby and mother. When my first three kids were born, she was adamant they should all be on formula, and four-hourly feeds. My FIL is another one who still hasn't quite come around to accepting b'feeding in public.
In terms of *extended* breastfeeding (ie beyond 12 months), then my answer changes DRAMATICALLY. Despite the WHO recommendations to feed to 2 years, I'm yet to come across anoyone other than health professionals or some other b/feeding mums who encourage it.

As a point of interest, when my first was born, for me, the whole idea of feeding a baby beyond 12 months used to repulse me. ROFL. A far cry from today. So even MY views have changed in 8 years. A LOT !

2. I guess I've answered that in #1, too. However, I don't know that I've noticed a huge shift in attitudes in the last 8 years, except for my own attitude. I'm certainly way more relaxed b/feeding in public than I was for DD1 and even DS, but I'm not sure that's come from changed attitudes - more from my own level of "ease" as a mother. Also more inclined to go with my gut in terms of mothering - I really don't worry a great deal what other people think on the whole. Would certainly defend any remarks made towards my kids tho'.

3. Personal experiences have been great - NEVER had a single negative comment made to me. And I've breastfed in an awful lot of public places I'm not sure that would hold true if I b/fed a toddler in public, though. Actually, I just realised - I had a VERY negative and upsetting remark made to me by a paediatrician no less, while I was in the hospital having delivered Annabelle. It was in relation to b/feeding a 2.5 year old. Needless to say, i never saw said paed. again.

I think that's all. Really, like I said, I haven't had too many other opinions inflicted upon me, so can't comment on how they've changed over the years. Guess I've been lucky, although it'd be nice not to have to worry about whether or not you're likely to get another person's opinion thrust upon you as a nursing mum.

So there you have MY experiences and opinions. They are not *right* or *wrong*, but are part of my life experience as a mum.

Cheers,
Sally

34yo SAHM to
Stephanie (18/7/97)
Christopher (28/12/00) - my Dyspraxic Dude
Charlotte (1/8/02)
& Annabelle (9/1/05)

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DD is number 1 for me and I probably didn't start BF out in public until I was confident in doing so. I live in a smaller country town and they don't have Parent's rooms for feeding. The first time I had to feed her out in public I was a bit nervous and had to do it just outside Woolworths. Lots of people stared but nobody said anything. Now at 4 months, I am confident and happy to feed her wherever the need arises. We often talk about this in our Mother's group. Still people just look but don't say anything. Sometimes I wait for someone to say something but they don't but I am ready and prepared to tell them that it is my babies right to be BF wherever and whenever.

I still find though that some of our male friends are the ones who have the problem with BF in public. I now just warn them that I am about to feed and it is up to them if they stay in the room or turn their head the other way, I am certainly not going to leave the room because they feel uncomfortable, after all they are only breasts.

I also want to add that it has been great to read other people's stories.



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Hi I’m a mother of 5 and have twins on the way. I guess I have the belief of the old school where breast shouldn't been seen in public. It's not so much feeding itself it's when woman walk around the shop with a baby attached to their breast that I feel is not right. The reason I have an issue with that I guess is because I feel feeding is a bonding time and you should be relaxed as you do it. I fed all 5 of my children and will be feeding the twins when they come along but I won't be doing it in public. With saying that it's my personal belief but have no issue with others doing it. I just feel uncomfortable seeing it.

When I had my first son there wasn’t really a lot of places where you could feed your child but these days they have very nice parent rooms. Well in most shopping centers. I feel there is nothing wrong with a woman feeding in a restaurant if she covers herself with a cotton sheet. I know I will most likely be attacked for my beliefs as I have already been attacked by a friend saying it’s natural which yes I agree with but still feel it unnecessary to feed while walking around the shop.

I hope you all can see that this isn't a personal attack on woman that do it just my opinion..

MEL



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It wasn't specifically in the original post however the original post is asking us what our experiences have been like. A person who has breasfed 1 baby for 2 months will have had less exposure to people's attitudes (positive or negative) than someone who has breastfed their baby or babies for a longer amount of time - that is all.

I'm all for feeding in public. THe more babies fed in public, hopefully will encourage more women to (a) breastfeed generally and (B) not feel intimidated or embarrased to feed their babies.
I never hid to feed, I was a proud breastfeeder so I fed where and when she felt like it. I would often be found wandering round doing the groceries with dd in the sling feeding away merrily. I'm sorry for people who find it offensive or believe that it should be done in "private" - masturbation requires privacy, eating doesn't in my books anyway. And I was just as relaxed feeding while having my hair cut as I was curled up in the rocker at 2.45 am with the most beautiful baby every born at my breast.
I did have a few instances of negativity - one in particular where I was gently informed where the parents room was from a cafe waitress
:mad: but none of that would deter me. I felt sad for such small minded people.
The only issue I have myself with people breastfeeding in public is feeling jealous that I'm no longer part of that wonderful group of mothers worldwide.
Breastmilk is one of the greatest gifts I've given the Perfect Princess so far, evidenced by her often rubbing her face on my breasts in the shower telling me how much she loves them. Her obvious displays of pleasure tell me just how worthwhile all those hours were, despite mastitis, settling issues blah blah blah.
Viva breastfeeding!

I never breastfed DD in public at all, only because I wasn't confident enough to and for the first few months she would only feed if I wore a nipple shield. Trying to latch her on with a shield was hard at the best of times so it was much easier to feed her in private where I didn't have to focus so much on being discreet.
However, DS is a different matter. I feed him in public and don't bat an eyelid about it. I've never had any negative comments directed at me, just looks and stares and I stare straight back, silently challenging them to say something.
Woe betide the ignorant person that does say something to me though, I'll let them have it! It's a mothers' right to feed her child when they are hungry, end of story.
I still can't believe people still think it's inappropriate or disgusting??? How is it appropriate to feed your baby in the most natural way possible and maybe show a bit of breast/nipple when you can see so much more and WORSE on Big Brother Uncut at 9.30pm?????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????????? LOL!!!!

Me 24
DH 34

I couldn't not chime in - being a huge BFing fan.

My BFing history - DS#1 6 wks premmie in 2002, BF until weaned at 17 months (I was 4 mths pregnant by then, milk was drying up and he was just sucking on nothing and giving me a good chew! I really didn't want to stop, but he was wrecking my boobies!). We had a lot of problems with establishing BF - he didn't attach until he was nearly 3 weeks old - but because he was so small and fed 2 hourly day and night until he was about 2 months old, I fed him anywhere and everywhere! I had pondered before he was born how I would go with BF in public - but once he was there, I didn't think twice. I tried covering him with a shawl, but it was really awkward especially as he needed so much help with attachment for a couple of months. Needing to use a pillow to hold the little fellow up did restrict me a little as I always needed a good seat.

DS#2 was full term, and took to it like a champion. I have also fed him everywhere and anywhere - at a wedding at 3 weeks old, although not actually in the church as he was really noisy. I finally mastered the art of feeding him in a sling, which I never managed with DS#1, and that made shopping a lot easier.

I have always felt very encouraged to BF - my Mum didn't and has been really supportive because she wishes she had. She had 2 premmie babies in the late 1960s (my brother and I) and we were both put straight on to formula. She says the attitudes of the hospitals etc are so different now, especially wrt premmie babies and BFing.

I have never had any negative comments (not that I have heard anyway). I have probably had stares etc, but have just ignored them. When both babies were very young I tended to have to find a good chair to feed in, so that was always a factor in where I fed, and DS#1 in particular became quite distracted at around 9 months, so that became difficult also. I have tended to use Parents' Rooms if available, because I can then change a nappy if needed much more easily, they usually have good chairs and they can be quieter - and its easier to contain the toddler. But it has always been for my convenience or the convenience of my children, not for other people's mortification.

Some qualifications - I was hesitant to BF my first baby in front of my FIL at first, mostly because he would have been embarrassed. But by the time DS#2 was older, I got over that. So, when at their place I would often move away to the other side of the room.

I was quite sad when DS#2 weaned himself at 13 months just recently. We are moving house in a couple of weeks and I have some EBM still in the freezer from DS#1 - I kept up a small EBM supply so he would never need formula right up until he weaned. I am very very sad about having to throw it out. At least one container is still from when DS#1 was in hospital - a few tears will go down the sink with that hard earned gold.

I live in Darwin so will answer all questions from a point of view that is taken here and trust me it is so different to everywhere else in Australia.


1. We're almost five years into the new century. In 2005, where are we at in regards to acceptance, approval and encouragement for breastfeeding in public?

Here, most people breastfeed, and extended breastfeeding is the norm. I see people breastfeeding babies to toddlers and children everywhere I go, whether that be at the park or the beach or the shops. I still breastfeed Jacob at 27 months 2 times a day and whilst my transient friends think this is odd my Darwin friends could care less and about 50% are still feeding their toddlers.


2. For those who breastfed 5, 10, 20 or any number of years ago - How do you think things have changed or not changed?
What has been your experience?

Have only breastfed one child but have never been criticised that I remember, though I have had nappy brain for some time now. My grandma and mum are supportive of my extended feeding. My mum fed me to 13 months so she was out of the norm 30 years ago as well.


3. What are your personal experiences of breastfeeding in a public area? (You can also tell us about the experiences of your family & friends - no identifying names please)
If any of your experiences are outside of Australia, please tell us where.

I have never ever had a problem, I was criticised for bottle feeding my middle son in public when he was 2 weeks old but that is the only time I have ever been criticised feeding one of my boys. I feel so normal feeding Jacob and fed him frequently when we were out and about till he was 22 months old when he weaned to 2 feeds a day.

I have always had positive feeding experiences, I have always had people come up to me and say how lovely it was to see him b/f and I anjoy seeing other people breastfeed their babies, I think it is gorgeous, and i love watching people bottle feed babies too. I had to work so hard to b/f one of my boys and after bottle feeding the first 2 and breastfeeding the third I would say that people are a lot more tolerent of breastfeeding these days.

1. We're almost five years into the new century. In 2005, where are we at in regards to acceptance, approval and encouragement for breastfeeding in public?
I am so naive :| I didn't realise people were offended by women breastfeeding their babies! From being a member of EB I learnt that there are heated breast vs bottle discussions etc but I honestly didn't think that some people would be that offended that they would actually approach someone and comment!! Oh how I love my perfect little world

2. For those who breastfed 5, 10, 20 or any number of years ago - How do you think things have changed or not changed?
What has been your experience?
Only been BF for two months

3. What are your personal experiences of breastfeeding in a public area?
I've breastfed more times in a cafe (at the shops) and restaurant than I have in a Mothers Room. Actually I've fed in a Mothers Room twice, I've changed plenty of nappies in there but I've only fed in there twice. If I'm not having a coffee/lunch at the shop and she needs to be fed then I'll use the change-room but if I'm sitting down for my lunch why shouldn't she have hers as well? If I'm at a Restaurant and she needs to be fed then I'll feed her. I do admit I cover up with a blanket though but that's not because I'm ashamed of feeding my baby. I just prefer it that way.

I haven't noticed negativity and I haven't had anyone comment as yet. I have noticed women smiling when they realise what I'm doing though.



This message was edited by Mum2Angels on Wednesday, 3 August 2005 @ 4:01 PM

The only time I ever cover up with a blanket when BF in public is if i am wearing a shirt that will show off my big flooby belly when i pull it up to feed. Couldn't give two hoots about people seeing my boobs, but NO ONE should have to see my flubber, thats just cruel ;p

I love BFing, but I don't like doing it in public. Breasts to me are personal - we have been conditioned to think that way. If I had a choice of shopping at a local centre (no feeding room) and one 10kms away (with a feeding room), and I had to shop at a time DS was due for a feed, I would definitely choose the further away one. I use the feeding rooms. I wish they didn't smell like poo though. I do feed in front of other people only when I'm sure they will not be offended (in their homes or my home).

This is not a very feminist viewpoint I suppose. I just don't want to be having an argument with someone with my boob exposed in front of my infant child!

If a baby needs to be fed, what's the problem?

There has been a lot of replies to this, but I will have my say anyway

I fed my dd in public, as she was an easy feeder (i.e. I didn't have to hold my breast, or hold her to the side e.t.c. I just cradeled her, and she fed. I only put a blanket around me if there was an older male/female around like grandmas age e.t.c.

I barely was showing any flesh, and I am sure that I got just as many stares when she was having a bottle as when she fed from me.

If things like Big brother get aired on tv and noone has issues seeing all the flesh there, why should b/f be a problem? It is a natural thing, and if you feel comfotable feeding in public, GO AHEAD!

Kate- PCOS 06/02
DH- Phil
M/C 13/06/03
DD- Cassia Danielle 13/10/04

Another mum here who feeds her boys wherever and whenever they wanted it.

DS1 used a nipple shield for the first 3 mths so that was always fun putting that on first LOL. I'm sure that got more stares then DS actually feeding. I was never once subjected to anyone's nasty comments or stares. I fed in front of everyone - my dad, FIL and friends alike no-one was immuned from my (.)(.)'s....

DS2 took to my (.)(.)'s like a vaccuum - so different to DS 1!!!!!!! The only comment I have received about feeding DS 2 was that I was asked by very good friends of ours not to feed him at the table at their wedding when he was 6wks old. I never intended to feed him at the table so I went and sat in a chair in the foyer, every guest that walked past me smiled as they walked past but no-one said anything.

DS 1 self weaned at 11.5mths due to cutting his 4 top teeth together with a double ear/throat infection. DS 2 is still going strong and still get's his mummy milk flopped out wherever we are.

I don't see the problem with b/f or bottle feeding your baby in public - we are all doing the same job - nuturing and feeding our child!! Does it really matter how they are fed as long as they are cared for and loved??

Monique ~ 29
DH ~ 30
DS 1 ~ Lachlan William 12/05/03
DS 2 ~ Tobey James 24/01/05

Having had DD1 in the UK and DD2 in the USA, I have BIP in 3 countries now (counting Australia when we've visited).

There is never anything in the news about b/f discrimination etc here in the USA (way too much other stuff going on!) so I guess I haven't got a feel for the attitude of the general public, but I have never had any comments about BIP. The only time I remember being "concerned" about it was when we were planning our trip to Australia when DD1 was 2 months old and we booked dinner at Rockpool and I was scared they might "kick me out" if I tried to b/f. But thanks to the ABA website, I learnt that they couldn't legally do that, so I went to dinner all ready to spout legalities at them, but I had no problems, and DD actually slept right through until dessert!!!

My general feeling regarding attitudes to b/f is that it is much more accepted in the UK than elsewhere. Not sure if that's because of the huge support network of midwives that the NHS provides (both pre- and post-natally). There is NO support for b/f mothers here in the USA (well, none that you don't have to pay for!), so f/f is a lot more common (from what I've seen).

My only negative comment from anyone (and I don't look at other people when I BIP so I have no idea if they're staring at me or not!) was my grandmother when we were visiting my aunt and uncles and she said "Maybe you should leave the room to feed the baby so you don't make Uncle G feel uncomfortable." Well, I don't know where my manners were that day, but I replied "If he feels uncomfortable, he can leave the room!" Needless to say, neither of us left the room!!!

This topic was discussed on a US mothers' board I belong to, and I remember sobbing uncontrollably (I think I was pg at the time...!) when someone said she was approached by an elderly man while b/f her baby, and fully expected a lambasting, only to hear "It's wonderful to see you feeding your baby God's way. God bless you."

i cannot believe reading through this thread that most of the people who seem to have a problem with breastfeeding in public is other women????? i just dont get it, i personally gave up the breastfeeding battle when DD was three months due to a myriad of problems including DD's reflux and also got the guilt messages about bottlefeeding, but i never once felt worried about breastfeeding in public and can honestly say i only ever took DD away from people because she wouldn't feed properly as she is a busybody not because i didnt want to do it in front of them.
i agree with drjanetm in the above post, i now live in the UK and they are so much more baby friendly here than in aus, i went shopping to a major shopping centre the other week and they actually have bottle stations in the food court where they have a little bottle warmer for expressed milk, a microwave for bottles and food and also a little enclosed type area where you could breastfeed without your other children running away from you. They also have parents rooms everywhere with the above facilities in them.

I feel so sad about the ignorance towards breastfeeding.

I fed 3 children for a total of 10 1/2 years. They are extremely healthy children who are rarely sick. My first b/fed till 2 1/2, second till 3 1/2 and 3rd till 4 1/2years old. I don't think much has changed from nearly 14 years ago when I had my first child. My SIL has a beautiful, healthy b/fed 1yo and she has been bombarded with 'gross', 'when are you going to stop that', what a disgusting thing to be doing at her age', 'you'll never get her off it' 'do you get some sort of sick sexual gratification from doing that at her age'.

If my children wanted/needed to be fed, we did it where ever we happened to be. In church, shopping centres, school, on the toilet, etc etc. I received the odd comment and look but I have a kinda of 'don't sh*t me' attitude so I think that saved me from alot of what my sil is hearing now. Some of the same people who saw me breastfeed my children and never said a word to me, are the originator of some of those comments above. My sil takes alot more sh*t than I would have but she is determined to breastfeed for as long as her child wants it.

I breastfed DS1 until he self-weaned at around 20 months and am currently breastfeeding 8 month-old DS2. I've always fed on demand whenever and wherever my boys have needed a feed and have never had any issues with breastfeeding in public either in Switzerland (where we live) or in Australia.

I've never felt as though people were particularly uncomfortable with my BIP but, as with many other women, have had to field my fair share of comments/judgements concerning extended b/feeding.

Even though I'm all in favour of parents' rooms/feeding rooms etc. for those who feel that they need privacy, I have to say that I'd much rather BIP than miss out on all of the action by being hidden away somewhere. The one thing that I wouldn't feel comfortable doing is expressing b/milk in public but I guess that's a whole other kettle of fish

Jo
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* Ruben Elliott 1/12/2004

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