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24/03/2006, 08:51 AM
I'm due in June and DS will be 19mths. I'm having difficulty selecting a pram.
I've heard the Phil and Ted's is good, but is limited with options for the newborn between 3 months and when they can sit up.
I'm not sure about whether to look a side by side or front/back style prams.
Any mums with advice??
24/03/2006, 08:59 AM
I love my phil and ted i couldn't live without it especially doing the school runs, i still use it now ds's are 18months and 3.5yrs,even my 5 year old dd can still fight comfortably in the front, previoiusly i had the bertini bidwell and the shuttle both with toddler seat attachments and use to hate getting them in and out of the car as they are huge and take up the whole boot!! The phil and ted is really light wieght and folds nice and flat.
Hope that helps
24/03/2006, 09:06 AM
I have heard good things about the P&T's.
I bought the Valco RUnabout Deluxe with basinet, with the intention of buying a toddler seat and later a skateboard attachment when we have #2.
I love my jogger, although the back wheels are a little wide, but it rarely affects me. It has a nice sized shopping basket underneath and is quite sturdy. I know there has been some comments about the stability with the toddler seat.
There are a few self-confessed pram nerds around who will no doubt pop their heads in here to help you!
24/03/2006, 09:53 AM
Yes I am a pram nerd!
I have bought a cheap $300 chilcare twin pram - and I love it!! I spent $1000 on the best emmaljunga money could buy - what a waste. I bought a toddler seat - but it had to have 2 attachments, this cost me around $250 - absolute rip off.
Also - this wonderful toddler seat could only take 15kg - throw a nappy bag on the front of it and see you later kids - the pram would have tipped.
As for the Phil & Teds - have heard from one of the assistants at Baby Kingdom that they are bad news. Apparently they are in the processed of being sued for 2 different incidents. Haven't seen the pram my self, but apparently one lady was using it jogging and her son had massive burns on his arm from the tyre (apparently the seat is underneath the pram and close to the tyres).
The other case was when a lady went up a gutter and the baby slid out the back of the pram.
Like I said, I didn't read in in a newspaper or anything, just told by the assistant at the baby shop.
If your toddler is a sleeper like mine, make sure you check the height of the toddler seat - most of them are quite short and their head flops back.
Hope this helps!!
24/03/2006, 12:50 PM
I have a P & T and I love it. My boys are 19mths apart. In reply to your comment about limitations btween newborn and sitting up - When the pram is in the newborn position, it can be inclined slightly if they don't want to lay down flat. Although they will be facing forwards, they won't see much because toddler is still on the front but that never bothered my son as I just made sure he had a toy. He had no trouble shifting into the bottom seat when he was about 3 - 4mths old.
I couldn't find any other pram that allowed my toddler to have a comfaortble seat that he could still have a sleep in. There were lots of "toddler seats" but I didn't feel they would support him enough to doze off. The P & T is a full seat.
I looked at the side by side and the ones that have one in front of the other but I thought that I wouldn't get them into all the spaces I wanted to. They say that all of those are made to fit in a "standard door way" but someone forgot to tell the restaurants and coffe shopss that they need to space their tables the same distance as a "standard doorway".
Good luck with you decision. Confusing isn't it???
24/03/2006, 09:46 PM
I have a Steelcraft Swivelrite Deluxe with the toddler seat attachment, and I absolutely love it. DD is 2y3m, and DS is 9m.o. DD likes to walk a bit now, but it is very easy getting her in and out, and if she does get tired, I swap her with DS, he loves sitting up front every once in a while.
I have heard that some 3wheelers are bad with all the weight on the front wheel, but I have never experienced a problem with this. The pram is ridiculously easy to steer and manouvre, can turn around in tight spots, the main hassle I have is that I have to go thru the wheelchair checkout at most supermarkets, but legally they are required to have one open at all times anyway. Oh, and some shops are just not designed for prams.. but I think that is in general (except the teeny wheeny strollers - no good for 2 kids!)
If you want any more info, just pm me and I will be happy to answer any Q's.
More rambling, yes, but I think your best bet would be to go to a baby store and whack some weight into a pram and give it a go manouvering it around the store, get a better feel for them before you spend any money.
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