For those who need help

Nut (Nic) ~
TTC #1 since September 2004 ~
ACT Khami ~
TTC #3 since March 2005 ~
TassieTCF (Trish) ~
TTC #1 since January 2005 ~
USA*Catwoman* (Bernie) ~
TTC #3 since March 2004 ~
BrisbaneKird (Kirdy) ~
TTC #1 since January 2004 ~
SydneyCejane ~
TTC #1 since September 2004 ~
MelbourneCarrie ~
TTC #2 since December 2004 ~
BrisbaneKarelle ~
TTC #1 since April 04 ~
Central West NSWDaisy1 ~
TTC #1 since Mid 2002 ~
BrisbaneFridaysChild ~
TTC #1 since February 2005 ~
QLDmlknight ~
TTC #1 since January 2005 ~
Central West NSWNoopy ~
TTC #1 since January 2005 ~
SydneyGall ~
TTC #1 since December 2004 ~
SydneyLozGus (Lorraine) ~
TTC #1 since May 2004 ~
Gold CoastPercy (Fiona) ~
TTC #1 since August 2004 ~
MelbourneRaelene ~
TTC #2 since July 2003 ~
WAMaura ~
TTC #1 since 2003 ~
IrelandLilic ~
TTC #4 since October 2003 ~
MelbourneAnna ~
TTC #1 since April 2003 ~
PerthBaby~Dreaming (Chrissy) ~
TTC #3 since October 2002 ~
PerthAmes_78 (Amy) ~
TTC #1 since February 2005 ~
MelbourneLeaLea ~
TTC #1 since September 2004 ~
Central West NSWNicole ~
TTC #2 since November 2003 ~
South Australia
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This message was edited by Nut on Monday, 31 October 2005 @ 9:25 AM
cejane
23/10/2005, 07:16 PM
Kirdy- Thanks I hope I get some answers too!! The longest I've waited after Ovulation has been 15 days. The HPT I used was the one from the chemist, unless the hcg levels in my urine is not showing up. Usually when I get my period I always get sore boobs, absolutely nothing!!!!!
grrl
23/10/2005, 10:19 PM
Hi all!
Can I join in?
Name – Anna
TTC - #1
TTC since – April 03
Location - Perth
I've been diagnosed with a balanced translocation of chromosome #1 & 4, but it seems our biggest problem is that I am not ovulating regularly. As of tomorrow or maybe Tues, I'll be a Clomidian! Fingers crossed.
P.S. I've already got a question... if AF starts in the evening is that classed as day 1 or is the next day? Not sure which day to take first tab!
~~BABYDUST~~
24/10/2005, 05:11 AM
Hi Anna, welcome to the group. I'm pretty sure that you class day 1 as the next day. Hope that helps, & I hope you get a BFP really soon.
BB
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a362cPCOS
M/C NOV '01
ID twins 2002
Trying for #3 April 05 Clomid round #1 Sept 05
Hey Anna, Welcome to our little community

To answer your question, if AF starts in the evening then the next day is day 1

Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
grrl
24/10/2005, 08:41 AM
Hi all :-)
Nut... I recognise that photo in your sig... DOLer by any chance?
Thanks for the advice ladies, means I get one more day before blood test to OK my go ahead for Clomid.
Anna - DOLer?
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
grrl
24/10/2005, 09:51 AM
Nut - Dogzonline
Anna - That's what I thought you meant. I do look around there occasionally but never posted any photos of Molly on there and don't use the forums or anything. I do get around EB a bit though, perhaps you've seen her before on here.
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
This message was edited by Nut on Monday, 24 October 2005 @ 11:34 AM
cejane
24/10/2005, 11:30 AM
Last night I got brownish spotting today one little drop I dont feel as if I'm getting my period. Is it too late to be an implantation bleed?
Welcome Anna!!!!!
Cejane - Some women get small amounts of spotting around when AF is due...
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
cejane
24/10/2005, 11:47 AM
AF was due last Wednesday so I'm 16 dpo and on CD 39.
I seem to have a longer LP on Clomid so it is not unlikely that it is a possibility. Even so, spotting in the first weeks of pg is not uncommon either.
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
~~BABYDUST~~
24/10/2005, 01:59 PM
You girls are confussing me with the dog sig's

Just been to the DR. She sounded positive & sent me for a BT. My vein "died" in the process & it was painful, but they got blood from the other arm thankfully. I will know the results this afternoon. If they are POS I will have a scan in 2 weeks to work out DD & make sure we are only having 1. I want to wait that long so we will see a heartbeat etc & not get told "too early to see anything"
BB
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a362cPCOS
M/C NOV '01
ID twins 2002
Trying for #3 April 05 BFP 23/10/05, still in shock!
cejane
24/10/2005, 04:15 PM
Ok AF has just arrived!!!! Very disappointed!!!!
~~BABYDUST~~
24/10/2005, 05:18 PM
Just letting you know that I have it confirmed from the DR that I AM PG!!! SO, SOOOOO Happy & still in shock!
BB
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a362cPCOS
M/C NOV '01
ID twins 2002
Trying for #3 April 05 BFP 23/10/05, still in shock!
ames_78
24/10/2005, 08:45 PM
Hi everyone, I was wondering if I could join this BG. My name is Amy. I'm 27 from Melbourne and been TTC #1 since Feb '05.
Since coming off BCP my cycles have been 52, 42, 53, 80 and today is cd 33. Last cycle I had a chemical pg and during my u/s at that time it was discovered I have PCOS.
Today I had an app't with GYN/OB and got my script to start clomid (50mg). Since my cycles are so long i also have a script for Primolut N for AF to start so I can start afresh.
Best wishes to everyone.
Amy 27
DH 28
TTC #1 since Feb '05
cejane
24/10/2005, 09:22 PM
Welcome Amy hope you wont have to stay here too long!!!Good luck with your first cycle!
grrl
24/10/2005, 09:28 PM
Nut - I must have had you mixed up with someone else on DOL! Cute pug tho!
Cejane - sorry that the witch found you this time!
Babydust - CONGRATULATIONS!!!!
After previous deliberation, I've come to the conclusion that I am on CD1 today... which means blood test tomorrow to confirm go ahead for round one of clomid. My Ob/gyn has prescribed it for days 2-6 for me.... seems earlier than others???
Ok, so ladies... what 'real' side effects am I likely to experience on Clomid? The doc wasn't much help, just said that maybe worse PMT and that's about it.
Hi Amy! Hope your stay here is a short one!
FridaysChild
25/10/2005, 12:18 AM
Hello!
Would like to jump in an introduce myself:
I'm Friday
TTC #1 since Feb this year
Live Qld
Have ridiculously irregular AF, and
I'm a clomidian too, of one cycle so far.
Anna - I am about to start my second cycle of clomid(Serophene (sp)). I didn't find the side effects too bad; my experience: some insomnia, felt like I was running on nervouse energy, skin breakouts (arggh) and a BFN.
I would like others' advice though on the 'spotting' issue, if you can -? AF arrived today [monday], should have been tomorrow, but have been heavy spotting since last thursday -way too early for AF...does this happen a lot to clomid girls?
And I've also been told that the 'first cylce is the most effective' ... (ie best chance first time - is that true do you think?)
Regards,
Friday
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TTC #1 since Feb 05
trish#
25/10/2005, 12:59 AM
[color=Green]Congrats, BB! That's great!
CEJANE--that sucks! I would've gotten my hopes up in your situation, too. So sorry AF showed up.
AMY & ANNA & FRIDAY--welcome. We are graduating lots of Clomidians lately so hopefully this will be a lucky thread for you (and the rest of us)!
AMY--I had a chemical pg last cycle too so I can totally feel your pain/disappointment! To be SOOOO close, then have it taken away from you. How are you doing (emotionally)?
ANNA--I took Clomid CDs2-6 too. I think that's pretty standard in here. My SEs are hot flashes and night sweats, but everyone's vary (from visual disturbances to fatigue to acne...you name it, someone in here has experienced it!).
FRIDAY--I can't help you w/ the spotting issue but will say that it seems rare (on EB at least) for women to fall pg first time on Clomid. It's def. possible, but sometimes it takes a few tries to do the trick. Or in my case, MANY tries, still trying! What dose are you on?
NUT--How is AF this time? Heavier or more cramping than usual? And what about the injections???!!! I want a status report from you young lady.
Nothing much to report here. On CD 6, started Ltz last night. So far no SEs. Will start OPKs next week and if no LH surge by CD14, will go in to RE on CD15 for BTs and folly scan. AF is gone and I'm glad.
Edited to add: forgot to ask you girls something. My CD3 U/S showed some follies beginning to grow and no cysts. Does this mean I probably do not have PCOS?
Trish-28
DH-28
TTC #1 since Dec/Jan 2005
Chemical pg Oct. 2005
6 rounds Clomid, 1 round Letrozole failed
On Letrozole again this cycle
This message was edited by TCF on October 25, 2005 @ 1:16 AM
LOZGUS+2
25/10/2005, 07:42 AM
CEJANE - i am just so very sorry for you and dh. i really hope that you are feeling better today
BABYDUST - CONGRATULATIONS. That's really great news. i pray it all goes well for you. have you got your hcg results?
AMY - HELLO fellow ttc with long & irregular cycles buddy.
ANNA - i started clomid and metformin together, so it was hard to separate the symptoms (nausea/cranky). i took mine at night which helps. round2, i never had any symptoms. hope it works for you this month
FRIDAY - welcome to the group. you should check out the ttc with long/irregular cycles buddy group in the trying for a baby section. a wonderful group of ladies. since my 2nd m/c, i have had spotting every cycle, which is very frustrating. i believe that AF does whatever she feels like and most of the time there's no rhyme or reason. don't know about clomid round1 being the most successful. i just got a BFP on my 2nd round and it took my sister 3 rounds. i think it's more common 2-3 rounds.
TCF - good luck to you this cycle. great news there's no s/e
NUT - how are you?
ME - HCG 25 at 10DPO. way too early to have tested, so will do another friday. have my 1st scan friday week (4/11), which luckily DH has off. i hope this is a good sign. no more pinky mucus, boobs tender, fuller and harder, also i have heartburn already - anyone else experienced this? it's so nice to be able to talk to you guys about this, as no-one else knows beside dh and sister. with dh, he may as well not know for the lack of pregnancy conversation. it's just not the same level of interest as there is for women
bye ladies and good luck. thanks again for all your support and encouragement xoxo
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b2ac4*God's Richest Blessing To You*
Lorraine 33 PCOS Clomid/Met
DH 28
M/C 11/04 & 4/05
Praying there's twins inside!!!!
Lorraine - 25 at 10dpo is good. And with a more sensitive test you would have gotten a line. I did using a ThinkLife test when my levels were under 22. Give DH a chance to adjust to the idea... He is probably scared that something will go wrong and doesn't want to get too excited. My DH is like that.
Trish - AF was pretty usual. Spotting in the evening, light the next morning, a few hours of flooding and then it settled to an even flow. It did last a little longer this time but no heavier and not more painful. Injections are fine. I have my little routine in the morning, they are not painful (perhaps a little ache as I withdraw the needle which lasts a few minutes but that doesn't happen every time). How many follies did you have? If you had lots of small follies then you can still have PCOS.
Friday - Welcome to the group. It is actually more common for the first cycle of clomid not to work at all (no ovulation) than it is for a first time success. Often the quality of the first cycle if you do ovulate is not fantastic either (depending on your history). I personally got a big cyst (it went away within a few days) and ovulated late with very poor quality on my first cycle.
Anna - I am guessing you're a dog person too? I have a Chihuahua as well... Side effects... I got a few mild ones, had a bit of a headache, felt a little dizzy or light headed at times, they got a little worse on my 4th round (the one that worked... kind of). I also had the occasional visual disturbance (a few glowing spots floating around every now and then). Generally nothing anyone else could notice

. Though I didn't, many women experience quite severe mood swings so it might be best to warn DH about that before you start.
Amy - Welcome to you too

Not much to report on my end. AF has all but stopped, first scan booked for Friday morning. Generally I feel fine though I have had a headache for a week now (before I started the puregon). Will be interesting to see how this goes.
Will add the new members to the list as soon as I press reply

Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
This message was edited by Nut on Tuesday, 25 October 2005 @ 10:01 AM
~~BABYDUST~~
25/10/2005, 11:56 AM
Chrissy~ I don't know how long it usually takes to get into a FS. I think it also depends on where you love & how many are around your area.
Amy~ You'll find this group helpful & welcome.
Anna~ Thanks for the congratulations. I took my first round of clomid CD2-6. My specialist said I didn't O, but I must have cos I got a BFP.
Friday~ Welcome to the group. I'm sorry I can't help in regards to spotting, as I didn't have any.
Trish~ Sounds like you could have PCOS. Although I think the symptoms vary a lot. I hope this is the cycle for you & you get a BFP.
Lorraine~ Yes I had a BT yesterday & going by that my DR said that I definitely PG (although I KNOW I am, having a few symptoms now). Sounds like you might be too

. Keep us posted on how you go.
Nut~ Wishing you a successful cycle this time around!
BB
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/a362cPCOS
M/C NOV '01
ID twins 2002
Trying for #3 April 05 BFP 23/10/05, still in shock!
FridaysChild
25/10/2005, 12:14 PM
Thank you everyone for the responses and information.
I have barely talked to a soul about all this since DH and I began down this road so it is SO GREAT to hear about your experiences and good advice. And to know that there are other crazy chicks out there just like me!!!
Thank you Thank you.

Regards,
Friday
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TTC #1 since Feb 05
teabags
25/10/2005, 12:47 PM
Hi Girls
Trish - I'll definately pop in and out and see how you're all going. You're right, it is partly because I'm disappointed in my FS and my lack of a result - but it's also that I feel 6 rounds of clomid is enough for now and a bit of naturopathy will be good for my system and hopefully ttc. Also, the wierd short cycle I just had really made me feel odd and like I'm all out of whack - time for a change.
Goodluck to you for this cycle.
Janey - So glad you're doing well and thanks for your goodwishes, I feel very positive about taking a different approach.
Lorraine - Glad all's well with you too :-)
Kird - I think the naturopath will be good for my general health and I hope I get lots of energy like you say you had, how awful to m/c though :-(
This guy specialises in womens fertility problems, he's had lots of success with women who have been through a hell of alot more than me ie repeated IVF, m/c's etc, so I'm feeling hopeful.
Babydust - CONGRATULATIONS!!! How exciting for you, love seeing the BFP's - all the best with your pg.
Cejane - damn that witch, she's such a cow.
Anna, Amy & Friday - Welcome! This is a fab group and a great resource for ttc information. Goodluck to you all.
Nut - Fingers crossed for you this month, hi to Molly
Saff xx
Clomid x 6
Trying naturopath
Lealeaâ„¢
25/10/2005, 01:31 PM
Can I join you lovely ladies???
Name –Lea
TTC - #1
TTC since – Sept 04
Location - Central West...NSW
I have always had a very irregular AF ranging from 26 days to 8 months......I have had a PGcy 6 years ago that ended in M/C at 15 weeks.... Been TTC now for just over 1 year...I had Lap,D&C and dye studies on the 12th of October...
I have had my post op app't today with my Gyno....
Tubes are fine no blockages at all........ No Endo.... Ovaries seemed fine couldn't find any evidence of PCOS...
The D&C showed that I had O'd on CD44..{damn if I know how they figure that out!!}
He really didn't say what he thought was making my cycles so irregular....AAWWWW Frustrating!!!!!!
So anyway he wanted to send me home to keep trying for 3 months!!! I said "It is so annoying not being able to work out when I O... Its impossible I think I would rather some meds now.....I mean I can't even chart because there is no point"
So he has put me on clomid after my propting him...
I am not very happy though.... I am thinking maybe trying to see someone else... He didn't seem caring enough... I know that sounds silly and probably not the best way to describe how he was but I felt like he
didn't go into things deep enough..
Anyhoo....what do you all think...Do you think I should get a 2nd opinion??? Or I give the clomid a go for 3 months and see what happens??.... then if nothing is happening maybe go and see someone else???......He didn't even suggest CD21 BTS to see if the 50mg of Clomid is working??? Maybe I should have a chat to my GP as he is very caring and he might organise the BTs for me.....
alrighty sorry for the selfish post..... Just confused and thought I would ask you all for some advice...
Look forward to getting to know you all!!!!!
ME 26
DH 30
TTC#1 since sept 04
Lap,D&C,Dye Sudies 12/10/05

This message was edited by lealea* on Tuesday, 25 October 2005 @ 1:34 PM
Percy
25/10/2005, 02:20 PM
Hi everyone!
lealea - Welcome! your monitoring on clomid should be much more then just day 21 blood tests. I don't know what everyone else has done but I have regular internal scans to check the growth of the follicles during my cycle. For example, I started another round of clomid yesterday and will take it through till Friday. I have a scan on Saturday to see if anything has happened. I'll then probably have another few more scans until I'm ready to ovulate so yeah I think you should seek a second opinion! or at least ask your GP for his advice.
daisy - good luck with your break from clomid
Friday's child - welcome!

I don't believe that it could be true that the first cycle of clomid is successful. Sometimes it takes more then 50mg to get things going - for example 50mg and 100mgs did nothing for me! I'm currently on 150mgs a day and haven't ovulated yet on it.
Babydust & Lozgus - Congrats! Wonderful news!

Trish - it could mean PCOS and it might not. It could also be as result of the drugs more then what your body is doing IYKWIM?
Anna** - I had no side effects on 50mg and 100mg (though my husband disagrees!) but on 150mgs I was a right moody teary cow! Am dreading it happening again this week - and ruddy hubby has gone away for work this week so can't even take it out on him!!!! I also got hot flushes and a slight headache. When I took the drugs at night though these last few symptoms disappeared.
Amy - welcome!

Hope you journey here is a short one!

Nut - hoping this is the last time for you to take the purgeon.
Think I've covered everyone! as for me, well it was my birthday yesterday so now am feeling a bit old! We had a lovely weekend up in Sydney on the weekend (we lived up there till last year) catching up with friends - wonderful relaxing weekend!

Started on the clomid again yesterday - lovely birthday present! Am hoping this cycle works as it will be my last chance before we move to NZ in December. I might have a go at another cycle in November if this one doesn't work but am thinking not to. We'll see what happens with this one first I think.
Trying for a baby from August 2004
Me - 31
DH - 32
PCOS and on Round 4 of Clomid
http://www2.fertilityfriend.com/home/ac6e2
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teabags
25/10/2005, 03:18 PM
Percy - thanks
Lea - Welcome. I would try a different specialist while it's still early days. I've been seeing mine for a while now and though I like her, she's not thorough with testing (no bt's just ultrasounds) and it feels harder to switch to someone else once you've established a relationship iykwim. Better to establish your medical records/rapport/trust etc with someone that you feel comfortable and confident about -go with your guts!
Goodluck and wishing you a short and sweet stay with us.
Saff
6 x Clomid
Trying naturopath
42snuggle
25/10/2005, 03:47 PM
Hi Girls
I have just read there's a couple of positives coming from here ....
I hate the waiting game. I really want this christmas holiday but i really want to get pregnant.
My sister had a baby last week and geez i am so clucky it's crazy. I so hope that when i start again it wont be long until i get pregnant.
Huggles
Carrie
grrl
25/10/2005, 09:50 PM
Hi Ladies!
Totally stuffed from work today, so short but sweet from me.
Nut: Yep, I'm a doggie person, got a Kelpie x and a GSP (wont be hard to pick who I am on DOL from that! lol)
Hope all is going well with everyone else, sorry for lack of personals today.
Took my first clomid tab today after my blood test results that gave me the all clear go ahead... my poor little veins are nearly stuffed and so sore after tracking last cycle, not sure what they are going to do this cycle. They had a hard time getting blood today.
Feeling cruddy so am going off to sulk in front of TV, hopefully in a better mood tomorrow and will write more.
trish#
26/10/2005, 12:22 AM
[color=Green]LORRAINE--everything sounds great on your end...let us know your results on Friday.
NUT: I had 4 follies on each ovary on CD3. They were each around 10 or 11 mm. No dominant one that early on. I asked the nurses if they saw any or if these were cysts and they said no. I didn't ask any PCOS related Qs though. My dr. HAS said that if I DO have PCOS, it is a very mild case of it. He said PCOS ranges from super-mild to literal "circus freaks" (REAL hairy people). I am not too concerned about whether or not I have it. If I do, it's a very mild case and under control w/ the Metformin... What CD will you be on for your scan on Friday?? Is that scan earlier in your cycle than those you were getting on clomid? My first scan will be sometimes early next week and I'm so anxious about it. I just know I'll have some more slow-growers and have to keep going back to the clinic until they are mature.
FRIDAY--Yes, this group is sooo helpful. We haven't told anyone our TTC plans either, so it is very nice to have some on-line friends to seek comfort and advice.
LEA--welcome. It sounds like your gut is telling you to get a second opinion. I know that those of us TTC want to move fast, get results pronto, and can therefore become impatient at times, but still...your dr. should at least do BTs and probably some other stuff too. If he wasn't going to prescribe Clomid w/o your insistence...I don't know...may want to shop around. Believe me, lots of us in here have! This dr. you've described is an OBGYN? If so, I'd seriously recommend seeking treatment from a RE. SOME OBGYNs just aren't up to speed on infertility issues...
ANNA--Hope you're doing alright on the Clomid.
KIRDY--any news???? I'm getting worried about you!
Trish-28
DH-28
TTC #1 for 10 months
Chemical pg Oct 2005
7 rounds Clomid/Letrozole failed
On Letrozole again this cycle
Trish - Generally with PCOS you don't see cysts as such... usually just many little follicles (generally all under 10mm) and they can become cystic if left for too long and create scar tissue on the ovaries. You may not have obvious PCOS at the moment because the treatment has kept your cycles regular thus giving the ovaries a chance to heal. I will be on CD9 for my scan. Suppose to be 10 but they don't do ultrasounds on Saturdays and yes they do start monitoring earlier with injectable FSH. For 2 reasons... 1 is to monitor for overstimulation and 2 is to adjust the dose if necessary. One real benefit of FSH treatment is that they can increase or decrease the dose midcycle until they have ovary response.
Anna - We use to have a GSP... beautiful dogs.
Percy - I am hoping that too... first and last. Happy birthday for the day before yesterday!
Lea - Welcome. I will put your details on the members list. As for your specialist... it seems that everyone has a different level of monitoring during their cycles. It is certainly beneficial to have a CD21 blood test to see if it works but some doctors feel the monitoring unnecessary. I think talking to your GP is a good idea and let him know how you feel. If he is happy to monitor you then just handle it that way. Or Ask for a referral to another specialist who works along with one of the fertility clinics. Where in central NSW are you?
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
This message was edited by Nut on Wednesday, 26 October 2005 @ 10:42 AM
LOZGUS+2
26/10/2005, 02:12 PM
i hope you girls don't mind me still hanging around, but i am too scared to leave. if anyone has a prob, pls pm and i can tone it down a bit

NUT - good luck with your scan on friday. is that to check o? i actually did get a +HPT @ 10DPO.
B/T are in:
10DPO HCG:25 PROGESTERONE:62
15DPO HCG:140 PROGESTERONE:100
Doubling at a rate of: 47hours. Still early days, but ecstatic about progesterone levels. 1st scan next friday.
BB - how you feeling sunshine?
SAFF - i saw a naturopath (even though i am one!!) and they got me having regular cycles and through salvary hormone testing my progesterone levels went from 172 in May to 521 in Sep, so i definitely recommend them!!!
LEA - welcome to the group. you should check out the ttc with long/irregular cycles buddy group in the trying for a baby section. a wonderful group of ladies. have you been tested for PCOS? i would definitely be giving clomid a go. i was SO resigned on taking it (being a naturopath), but really wanted to get preg, so i went on it and concieved second round. you also need to get an u/s approx cd12 to see if you are about to O. if you are not happy, speak to someone else as you want this sorted out now, not 6m down the track. good luck!
PERCY - HAPPY HAPPY BIRTHDAY for yesterday. did you get lotsa pressies? good luck this cycle. hopefully the relaxing week-end may set you up nicely to o.
ANNA - how are you feeling today? i hope you are better
TRISH - hope all goes well with your u/s next week.
bye ladies
http://www.fertilityfriend.com/home/b2ac4*God's Richest Blessing To You*
Lorraine 33 PCOS Clomid/Met
DH 28
M/C 11/04 & 4/05
Praying there's twins inside!!!!
grrl
26/10/2005, 07:29 PM
Hi all,
Either the Clomid is already affecting me, or I really have been hit with a brick. I feel so *blah* - poor hubby. I left work half an hour early so I could come home and have a nap... and the nausea ??? No one warned me about that!
Still, it's all for a good cause - I'm just hoping the good cause arrives soon!
Nut - How are you going today? GSP's are great, a little spaz to say the least, but I love them!
Lea - I agree with the others, it really does sound as though your gut feeling is to get a second opinion. My ob/gyn is constantly sending me referrals for bt's whilst tracking - actually, I think almost too many but at least I know what is/is not going on. Let us know how you go
LozGus - I'm a newie here, just wanted to say congrats on the pregnancy!
Hope all is going well for the others here!
Lealeaâ„¢
27/10/2005, 10:11 AM
Hello Lovely Ladies!!!
First I just want to say a big thanks to everyone for your advice and your warm welcomes!!!
PERCY> Happy Birthday for the 24th chicky…Good Luck with your 4th round of Clomid….. Ta on advice!!
DAISY> Thanks for the “go with your guts” advice…I noticed you are trying a naturopath…. What sort of treatment are you trying??
CAZ4ALEX> I hear you about SILs having babies lately…. My SIL had her 2nd baby on Monday…..Haven’t seen my new niece yet but I am sure I’ll be going crazy too…..
TCF> I thought exactley what you said about my DR being a GYNO…. I really don’t think he was up to speed on infertility…. Good Luck for your 1st scan next week…
NUT> Thanks for adding me to the list chicky…I am in Bathurst..
LOZGUS> Congratulations on your PGcy!!
ANNA**> Sorry to hear you feeling crappy… I am hoping your good cause arrives soon also!!
ME> After all your excellent advice I have decided to take Clomid next cycle and go and see my GP..I am sure he will offer me some good advice… I don’t plan on going back to my GYNO…. I will ask for referral to a F/S…. I am assuming the closest one to Bathurst would be Sydney???...Thanks girls!!!
ME 26
DH 30
TTC#1 since sept 04
Lap,D&C,Dye Sudies 12/10/05

teabags
27/10/2005, 11:45 AM
Morning all you lovely Girls
Lorraine - it's so good to hear your going so well :-)
Didn't realise you're a naturopath!
Hey Lea - Haven't seen the naturopath yet, my first appointment's tomorrow, I'm very excited though as he comes highly recommended and specialises in fertility problems. I was going to give clomid until the end of the year but instinct is telling me to change tack now.
So here goes......
Saff
mlknight
27/10/2005, 05:58 PM
Hi girls, have been reading your posts and it is lovely to hear about other peoples experiences going through similar scenarios with ttc. Firstly congrats to the ladies with BFP! very exciting news. I have been trying since jan 05 but only 2 cycles (149 and 65), so finally lovely obgyn agreed that clomid was worth a shot so currently cd15 (50mg) waiting for +ve opk - two nice big follies on u/s so fingers crossed, just a quick question around what cd do you guys tend to O? (clomid cd 5-9)? i have been reading through the forums and am unable to work that one out,and any hints on help with hostile cm? thanks!
mlknight
27/10/2005, 06:11 PM
sorry just to add to lealea, I think Orange does IVF so there may be a specialist to help there?
FridaysChild
27/10/2005, 06:46 PM
Hi everyone - just catching up on the posts of last few days:
Hi mlknight> I'm gald you asked the question about O days on Clomid- I am waaay confused (geez, I know it ain't supposed to be hard to understand this stuff... but I'm struggling!) So, yeah! would be interested in hearing others' views on this too

Anna**> sorry to hear you are off colour and nausea too eh? I read in one of the other posts on this site: 'things I know now I wish I knew then' kind of thing, and someone said: be prepared to take time off work when TTC ... which I know ain't always posible, but sometimes it's a case of 'allowing' yourself to, IYKWIM; being kind to yourself, a bit selfish even. I hope it gets better for you.
Nut> How are you feeling? thanks too, for putting me on the board as well (I live in Qld (Sunshine Coast))
TC> thanks for advice re 'first cycle on clomid' ... makes me feel quite hopeful for this cycle (#2)
everyone else> howdy, love hearing about you all

see ya!
Friday
FridaysChild
27/10/2005, 06:50 PM
Oh, and LozGus: Congratulations! I love hearing about your good news
kird
27/10/2005, 07:15 PM
Hi girls
Welcome to all the newies and may your stay here be short!
I'm making this quick as we've been having power surges and the computer went dead yesterday - seems to be OK for now though
Saw my GP yesterday and had a B-HCG test done. Was told to phone for results today. I've now called 3 times and left contact details for the nurse to call me back with results and she still hasn't called so I'm getting very anxious and agitated - gggrrrrrrrr!
Milknight - I took Clomid CD5-9 and usually ovulated on CD16.
Anna - I agree with babydreaming - take it at night and sleep through the side-effects (I always got hot flushes like you wouldn't believe and pimples big style though they lasted for days!)
Saff - good luck tomorrow
Lorraine - good results! I think we're due the same day but I'm too scared to move into a "due in" thread yet. Hopefully see you there soon
Nut - I swear your pug loves posing for the camera!
Trish - thanks for your thoughts. Hope the scan gives you the news you want.
Percy - happy birthday!
OK this was meant to be short - DH is moaning at me to backup all my data on the 'puter so must go do it!
Kirdy/x
ames_78
27/10/2005, 09:09 PM
Hi ladies,
Thanks everyone for your warm welcome.
TCF - emotionally it's definitely hard after a chemical pg. I have my ups and downs - and feels like everyone and everything around me has to do with babies/kids.
Tonight is the third day (out of 7) to take the drugs to make AF arrive. So feel like I'm in limbo land at the moment.
Amy 27
TTC #1 since Feb '05
Lea - I grew up in Cobar

. Is there no fertility specialist in Dubbo?? (though Orange is closer).
Kirdy - Often she runs away from the camera but I get good shots of her anyway

Friday - Whoops... sorry. Must have forgotten to change that field

mlknight - Welcome. Each cycle for me I have O'd a little earlier (with the exception of one which just shouldn't have happened). The average is still suppose to be CD14 but many go a little later than that. My last one was on CD16. You should be close with good follies there but don't rely on OPK's to give you a definite + because they don't always work. Hostile CM... you can buy Preseed, a sperm friendly lubricant or you can use eggwhite. Also taking Evening primrose oil and drinking cough mix which the active ingredient guaifenesin (and no other active ingredient but that) also helps with CM quality as well as drinking lots of water.
Me - Not much to report... First scan and BT tomorrow... will be interesting to see how the puregon is working thus far.
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
trish#
28/10/2005, 12:21 AM
[color=Green]Hi girls.
NUT--Interesting info re the cysts/follies. Also interesting to hear how your injections-monitoring differs. Good luck tomorrow.
LORRAINE--I like hearing of your progress. I know in the early stages of pg you are still fearful, and don't feel comfortable moving to a pg forum, so as far as I'm concerned you still belong here.

LEA--glad you are going to seek some help from a FS. Not that I think ALL OBGYNS aren't worthy of rendering fertility treatment, but if you want to ensure the best treatment, seek a FS. I hesitated to but am glad now that I did. You can take Clomid in the meantime and not feel like you've wasted any time, too...
MLKNIGHT--welcome to our group; good luck this cycle. As for O dates, it truly varies by person and then by cycle! They say CD14 is the "average" O date, for those "average" people w/ 28 day cycles. CD21 BTs measure to see if you Od and lots of girls come back bummed b/c their tests show no O, but then they O a few days later and sometimes get BFPs!! So there is truly no rhyme or reason to when you O. OPKs help some women, and so can temping and keeping an eye on your CM changes. I read somewhere on line that the "average" woman Os 5-9 days after her last Clomid pill, to start BDing 3 days after last pill. But again, that doesn't really help most of us, who aren't "average"!! It may serve as a BD guideline, but I truly would BD every other day well past CD21 if I weren't getting the strict monitoring that I am. I'm not sure how tight your monitoring is (do you get scans to check folly size? HCG shots? all this can narrow the O window). FYI, it took me till CD19 to grow a mature folly last cycle and get the hCG shot, so I know I Od on CD20 or 21ish.
AMY--I too was very emotional for several days after learning of my chem.pg. I was even
prepared for the news, as I was told after my pg BTs that it
could be a chemical. Even still, it was not easy to hear/take. As for your AF-inducing drugs, I'm all too familiar w/ them. AF would always come on day 9 of the (10) pills, if that helps.
Well, KIRDY??? The suspense is killing me...
Trish-28
DH-28
TTC #1 for 10 months
Chem pg Oct 2005
7 rounds Clomid/Letrozole failed
On Ltz again this cycle
CD 9
gall
28/10/2005, 05:47 AM
Hi Girls,
It's so early and I can't sleep! Bring on daylight savings!!!
I wish I could help you with all your questions but seeing this is my first round of clomid I have a lot of questions myself and not many answers!
Can I ask did you feel your ovaries start to work (ready to ovulate) and around what day of the cycle?
I am CD 9 today and apart from a few hot flushes

I haven't had any other signs that these tablets have worked!
I usually ovulate around CD 25 so I hope it doesn't take that long!! (I took clomid days 2-6)
Next round of clomid (hoping there is not one!) I hope I can answer some of your questions!
Cheers,
Gall
mlknight
28/10/2005, 07:38 AM
Hello again, thankyou all for the quick replys and all the info -you have made me feel very welcome

TCF- no HCG shots this round perhaps if no 0 with cd21 BT, but I am a mad keen charter and my temp increase is pretty noticeable following O. My poor DH talk about endless BDing LOL, oh well Ill hopefully see a temp increase over the wkend
Gall- I have never felt my ovs at O, but some people swear by it, apparently it is during LH surge when folli growing rapidly (just prior to ov) rather than when you O , so handy indicator when to get BDing
Nut- hope all goes well with scan and BT - fingers crossed
well better go (work and all) thankyou all again
Gall - Hard to say when I feel them working. I become more aware of them sometime around CD8... If that makes sense at all.
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
Update:
Ultrasound showed only small follies but a good endometrium. It would not be at all surprising if this takes a little longer given the early m/c... might have upset the balance a little.
Bloods will be back by 2:00 but I will be at work until 4 so I will let you know when I get home.
Nut
m/c jan 05 @14w
m/c Oct 05 @5w
4 x clomid
Puregon #1
<img src="http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v287/pautiric/mollyclosesm2.jpg">
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