[muminbusiness]

Ok I need heaps of sleep to even fuction! Right now I'm getting very little sleep.
Master 3 is like a newborn baby, at least 5 times a night then 4.30am it's the start of the day.
I'm now thinking of resorting to desperate measures! Have you used phenergan? Did it help?

[aluminium]

My daughter has phenergan as first step for a tree nut allergy - it makes her really hyperactive - there is no sleep to be had on phenergan. I, on the other hand, can have a 1/4 of an adult dose and be out for 16-hours.

Talk to your GP and see what they suggest. They might be able to discover some underlying causes that are keeping Master 3 awake. Have you considered his diet? Bedtime routines? Things that could make him anxious?

Good luck

[muminbusiness]

Yip been there done all that. It's driving me slowly insane. Thanks for your help.

[living~in~the~no...]

I imagine that you would like to use it as a bandaid measure to get a whole night's sleep and it has been done by many I am sure.

But you really need to get to the bottom of the sleep issues as you wouldn't want to go giving it every night indefinately.

Do you have any clues as to why he is such a bad sleeper?

[No girls here]

Phenergan does nothing for my kids unfortunately.

[lozoodle]

Phenergan hypes some kids up. My DD was given it in hospital at about 11pm for an allergic reaction she had.

By 1am when we went home she was still bouncing off the walls

[opethmum]

I think it is purely discipline issue then he needs to know that his actions during the night are unacceptable. Place him back in bed each time he wakes and do not let yourself give in despite protests. I would encourage him to stay in bed until the sun gets up and do not budge on this 4:30 is way too early imo.
Have a reward chart if necessary to get things going and to gain some momentum.
If you need to get a night nanny a couple of times to help you in the initial start up then by all means do so.
Good luck I hope you have some peace and soon.

[PaulineN]

Didn't help my DS. I resorted to letting ds sleep in my bed at 3yo just to get some sleep. In got him back into his bed within 6 or so months - talking about what a big boy he was etc etc and incentive of getting to pick a toy from the shops if he slept in his room all night without getting us up. Worked a treat! At first DS would want me to sit in the office where he could see me from his bed while he fell asleep - which I didn't mind as it was my eb/facebook time. DS is now 5.5yo and although he's up at 5.30am he goes to be at 7.30pm and is sound asleep by 8pm and I don't have to sit in the office while he falls asleep.

Have you tried just sitting in his room while he falls asleep, then gradually over time sitting outside (perhaps you cuold read a book etc).

[Therese]

I think before you used medication that is is best to seek medical advice. A Dr will be able to recommend the right dose and let you know if it is worth trying.

No sleep is so hard to deal with so I really feel for you.

[Daisy Goat]

Suck it up! But don't drug a child just so you can get unbroken sleep.

I had two (twins) like this from 18mths old to 5 years old. You cannot drug them. As a PP said it is only a bandaid. And frankly getting a taste of a couple of unbroken sleeps makes it even more distressing when it reverts back to normal.

Do as a PP said. Put him back straight away. Tell him sternly that it is night time and he will stay in bed. Tell him that if he doesn't do this you will take away outings or toys. They will do it more if they see that getting up gets them attention.

Otherwise learn to cope. Thats your job

This post has been edited by Daisy Goat: 13/04/2012, 10:34 AM