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Some questions for atheists, I need some interesting reading
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10/04/2012, 05:25 PM
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DH and I are both atheists, although we came to it in different ways. I don't remember ever having faith as such, although I think I was in high school when I started questioning whether or not what I was told in scripture was real or just a story. I realised after a while that I just didn't believe, and that was that. I was never christened, never went to church and my family wasn't religious so it was no big deal, and still isn't
DH on the other hand was christened and went to church as a child, then embraced catholicism in his late teens, then turned his back on everything and is now passionately anti religion. We've discussed how we'll broach things when the time comes with DS, and will be more going for my live and let live attitude, but DH still gets very annoyed at a lot of things done in the name of religion as if they're a personal affront.
So what has your experience of atheism been? Did you start out religious and just change at some point, or was faith just something that was never there? Are you and your partner on the same page? If you have children, what do you tell them?
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10/04/2012, 05:54 PM
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My parents are both atheists who were both christened but turned their back on religion. I went to an Anglican school for 8 years and had extensive education about religion and had to attend a service every week. I made up my mind that it wasn't for me. I feel satisfied that I was educated about what I could believe in if I felt the need. I think someone who chooses atheism (or even religion for that matter) without education are rather misguided. My DH I would say is agnostic. He was baptised, was brought up in a devoutly catholic family and has turned his back on it somewhat. He refuses to attend mass, but if he has to go to church e.g. for a christening etc, he will still cross himself and do that thing with holy water etc... I would prefer that our children are brought up in the same way I was - not christened but with education, so that they can choose what they want to believe in. It will be interesting to see what my MIL thinks when we decide that we don't want to have our children christened in the catholic church.....
This post has been edited by JuliaD: 10/04/2012, 05:57 PM
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10/04/2012, 05:54 PM
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I've pretty much always been a non believer. I dabbled a bit in 'maybes' during my pre-teen years, but by the time I started school at my strict Anglican school in grade 8 my mind was well and truly made up. I still remember not really believing our divinity teacher that she 100% believed in God. I just couldn't fathom a fully grown intelligent adult believing in what I equated to the Easter Bunny. QUOTE (BadCat @ 10/04/2012, 05:45 PM) 14475754[/url]']
I am firmly against the oft stated position on EB of exposing my kids to all religions and letting them make up their own minds. If they want to pursue any sort of religion they will ask about it. I see no reason to teach them a bunch of stuff I don't believe and that they have no interest in. This entirely!! I will not be raising my children with any religion at all. I find it totally unnecessary. If they ask I'll explain that it's something some people believe in, but our family does not.
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10/04/2012, 06:06 PM
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I am not atheist but I am a non-theist Pagan. I would love to believe in Gods/Goddesses but logically I just cannot bring myself to it. I was brought up in an atheist family and my Mum was open to letting me expore my own spirituality. As such I have looked into many until I found something that resnated with me. DH is very similar in his spirituality so we are on the same page. We don't really teach the kids anything but are open to their questions about different religions and why we believe what we do. QUOTE I am firmly against the oft stated position on EB of exposing my kids to all religions and letting them make up their own minds. If they want to pursue any sort of religion they will ask about it. I see no reason to teach them a bunch of stuff I don't believe and that they have no interest in. I see it less as actively teaching your child about all religions and more being open to discuss all religions without completely disregarding them if your child asks. I will not be teaching my children about all the religions of the World but if they ask about religion I would help guide their education on the topic and be supportive of my child. I wouldn't deny them the opportunity to learn about it just because I myself don't believe in it IYKWIM.
This post has been edited by **Xena**: 10/04/2012, 06:11 PM
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10/04/2012, 06:10 PM
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I was raised in the Anglican faith and i was even a Sunday School teacher in my teens. During my teens i became confused by the fact that even though i was praying to God i never received any response from God - i was living an awful home life and God never intervened to help me, which was contrary to what i had been taught in the Church.
Also, when i was questioning why God had abandoned me, i started to find the people at the Church very hypocritical and not very nice, even though they were supposed to be Christians. I felt ripped off when a visiting priest at his sermon said that Adam and Eve were not true and i had believed that all the bits in the bible were true, to the extent of believing women had one more rib than men. I could not understand why we were told stories about the religion and God that were not true.
I think though, the main reason i left, although it was later in life that i worked it out, was that a friend at the church was abused by her dad - my mother had actually gone out with this man (who it appears was looking for a "new" family at the time, if you get my drift) even though he was married and we were socially involved with this family. My friend got kicked out of the house by her mum and the Church never offered to help the poor girl. WHen the dad came out of prison he was welcomed back into the Church and i think i stopped going to Church (subconsciously) when he came back. I could not reconcile someone as evil as that being welcomed in a church when his daughter - a victim - had been ousted.
I had thought i was agnostic until i did an atheist test and found out i was more an atheist. I find many religions impose discrimination against women which i cannot accept. While i believe that Jesus existed, i believe that many crimes against humanity have been done in his name, which is so wrong as it is totally against his philosophy and teachings.
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10/04/2012, 06:15 PM
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I grew up in an atheist family. My dad was Catholic, and this extended enough to get me and my siblings christened when we were born, but it pretty much ended there. My mum is from a long line of atheists, including my grandfather who used to say "Ah, there'll be pie in the sky when you die. That's a lie!" and a set of great greats in the 1880s who were Catholic, but got married in a Protestant church.
I went through various phases as a child where I wanted to believe, but ultimately couldn't. It seems like it would be a great source of comfort at times, but I guess I'm just not built that way.
DH grew up in an Irish Catholic family. In his teens he started questioning the Church, especially following all the scandals like Bishop Casey, who brought the Pope out in 1979 but was discovered in 1990/91 with a defacto wife and kids. The X case and a few more clerical scandals turned him into a hard core atheist, from which he will never waver.
If DD is interested in any religion, she can investigate it herself. I'm not going to forbid her going to mass with her granny if she ever shows any interest, but neither am I going to encourage it. And while I think a basic knowledge of the main religions is useful so as not to inadvertently offend people, I'm not going to go out of my way to encourage it.
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