[Lou87]

Hi ladies, Sorry that I've also been MIA a bit lately! Our internet connection's still sketchy and I'm really nervous about the morph scan tomorrow so I've been weird and quiet and keeping to myself a bit!

I have lots to catch up on but will have to keep it pretty brief for now thanks to work...

JLove - Hooray for little wriggles! It's pretty amazing. I'm also waiting for the movement to get strong enough for DH to feel, but that won't be for a fair few weeks yet. You have so much control not finding out the sex! But I'll be thinking of you for your morph scan - I'm sure you'll get an amazing result! I'm not buying any big things until after the morph scan either, but this is me who doesn't ever buy anything decent until 'after the next scan'!

Des_Hen - Welcome, and congratulations! The first tri-mester is hard, but we're all here for you The fatigue is just starting to creep back for me now, and I remember what it was like in the first 12 weeks - I think it's a good sign though! I only had one set of bloods with the GP, and was never given any results (no doubt with the HCG results they should have suspected twins then, but it was never mentioned!) and my first OB visit was at 9 weeks, so 8 weeks for you sounds perfect! I hope the time goes quickly for you, and you get to see that amazing little flicker on the ultrasound screen that we all love!

Mojo - Love the pram list! I too love the Donkey, just not it's name, haha!! It seems to be the only one where you can have twin newborns both facing you, and it's something I would really like. It's a delight to steer too, even though it's wide. I love that it spins on the spot for tight corners! And thanks SO MUCH for that link - if we were to buy the Donkey twin from there it would save us $650 from buying in Oz! Craziness. I'm thinking of spending less on the cots, and more on the pram, but am still making decisions. It's so tricky! I hope you find one that you love! (I thought I was going to love the City Elite, or whatever it's called, but hated it! I found it horrid and heavy to steer, even when it was empty! Maybe I'm just the wrong height for it though! I know 3 people who have it - 2 loathe it and 1 raves about it, so it's all just what works for you personally I guess!)

MrsS - I was hoping I'd find an update from you! Mono-Di - woohoo!!! So they have themselves that sneaky little membrane = FANTASTIC news. I haven't been told it's a definite C-section with the shared placenta, but that it is very likely, not to mention that there's every chance of one being breach, etc, etc. I guess you will be monitored closely for Twin-to-Twin too? That's making me SO nervous. Has there been any talk with you yet about steroids to get their little lungs nice and strong in the event that they are quite early? There's so much to get your head around! I'm with you though - just want some healthy babies at the end!! (I'm still so glad yours are mono-di too though!!! That is just plain brilliant.)
And yes, the nausea is hideous. I wish I could make it go away for you! Mine didn't until 17 weeks, not that you want to hear that! I kept some dry cereal with me at all times, just to have a tiny bit when I started feeling horrid, which sometimes helped. I must admit that I tried every remedy that was suggested though, and very few worked. Zofran, on the other hand, worked just fine! I didn't want to take too many meds, but that was my saviour if I was out or at work, though I didn't start taking it until about 15 weeks I think? And then promptly wished I'd taken it much sooner!

Lala - a GIRL!!! Congratualtions my dear. You sound so happy I love reading happy news!

Little Lion - Glad to hear you're getting that extra scan. There's nothing wrong with a bit more reassurance. Was it you who mentioned the crazy train-sized bright orange pram? That's the ABC Zoom, which I thought I'd LOVE when I was researching it (in a different colour of course) but I cracked up laughing when I saw it in person! I couldn't even see over the back seat to see where the front of the pram was. No wonder it's bright orange - it's a hazard! Plus, all the joints/mechanisms are garbage - thin little plastic bits that were breaking off onto the floor as it was being demo'd to us. I knew one lady at the store - she said they'd sold one in the 8 months they'd had it, and it was returned 2 weeks later falling to bits.

Loulla - I'm keeping you company with the sniffles! I think I've had them the whole time - pretty annoying!! Hope yours are clearing up by now. I love what you said about your little half DH/half you growing inside you - so true!

Fairey - Did you get the ice cream?! I've heard good things about Pram Warehouse too. There's one about an hour's drive away from me so I'll check it out when I'm closer to it one day. But it's great they sell online too! I also spent a stupid amount of time in the one and only Baby Bunting store in Qld too over the weekend - but they're online as well! I hope the night cramps don't keep bothering you. I haven't had any yet but I'm sure they're not too far away. I get them all the time in winter anyway, let along when we will be mixing winter AND pregnant soon!!

AFM - I'm getting SO sore and achey of an evening, right down the sides of my belly. I try not to focus on it but it's pretty bad! I'm going to book a midwife appointment to see if they have any remedies for me! Still, I don't want to complain because that must mean they're growing - my belly certainly is!
I had a major meltdown the night before DH went away this time. He's been there for every other scan and appt and the morph scan tomorrow is the first one he'll miss. I always get SO nervous beforehand, to the point of feeling ill, since we always meet there coming from different directions (and I'm always stupid-early), but when he comes round the corner it all feels better. So, as some of you suggested, I'm taking my mum with me tomorrow. Initially I wasn't going to, because I'd hate for her to be there and have to share the experience if there's any bad news (ie - signs of TTTS starting up), but then I decided I'd better suck it up and kick my doom-and-gloom stupid brain to the curb and just accept that chances are, it'll be GOOD news, and that would be amazing for her to share! I mean, the last (and only) ultrasound she would have seen was with me over 28 years ago now, and she only had one, so imagine what it will be like for her to see today's ultrasounds!! Plus, part of it will be a 3D scan which will be INTERESTING. Am hoping they don't look too much like freaky little alien babies!! And there'll be a DVD to show DH. He really wants to be there - I feel bad for him! (My meltdown probably didn't help at all either - ooops!) I'll be sure to let you know how it goes though. I'm going to be a basket case at work in the morning, so they'd better not be difficult with me!

[Lou87]

PCM! Just in case you see this:

Congrats on starting your first IVF cycle!! I'll be thinking of you and sending the absolute best vibes your way!

[Des_Hen]

Thanks for the warm welcome ladies.

mojo - sounds like you had fun pram shopping.
Your GP was good to see you weekly. did you get scans weekly? bloods? or just a "check up"?

MrsS - i hope your nausea gets better.

Little lion - hello!! glad your GP was understanding and referred you early. what did the scans show at 5.5 & 7w?

Loulla - thanks. is p4 progesterone? I hope your cold feels better.

fairey - thank you. i am definitely fatigued. flaked out by 8:30 - 9:00pm every night.... my boobs are full, but not 'sore' yet. although, they just got sensitive last time.
i have to wait 8 weeks too it seems = torture!

lou87 - thank you. i hope the time goes quickly too. what did your GP test in your bloods? hcg? vitamin levels?
i'm sure your scan will be perfect and your mum will feel so honoured that you have included her

AFM: i feel so happy & nervous every minute - nerppy! haha
I had a freak out today in the toilet, thought i saw spots in my undies, only to realise it was the pattern :-/
HELP! haha.
I'm starting to swallow alot, with a lot of access saliva! i hope this is a sign of m/s... i know that sounds weird, but it will give me some comfort knowing things are progressing.

Last time i had a scan at 10w, but bub stopped growing at 8w.

i am so anxious about waiting until 8w this time with OB. Should i get a referral from GP for a scan at 7 weeks?
She is waiting till 8w, as she said it can sometimes be too early to see a HB before then, and only stresses new mums.
Same as hcg results, can put undue stress on mum if results aren't that positive.
Rational thought? how dare she!
Trusting my body again is hard.
I read this mantra on someones sig, and i have adopted it "my body knows how to nuture & grow a healthy baby".

I will be repeating this every minute until i see that HB!

XXX

[little lion]

Hello PCM. I was thinking about you last week. Was going to contact you but I didn't want to be one of those smug fertile women we dislike. It would be lovely to have you join us here, I hope you can very soon!


Lou you made me laugh out loud with the abc pram comments! Yes that was me. I haven't seen a bugaboo donkey yet but I'm sure they are way better than the long orange train (wreck)! I like baby bunting too, it is worth heading to the gold coast for. On the weekend DH and I went to a pram warehouse for the first time. Well it is certainly warehousey, it felt dark and depressing to me. But after about 10 minutes there we had to leave because I was hit by nausea. We went to the stafford store so maybe next time I will visit another one to see if the store ambience is better.


I'm home sick today. The cold continues and spewing this morning sealed my decision to stay home. Just booked my NT scan, woot! I will be 12 weeks 4 days. The centre didn't have many appointments left so I'm glad I called now, thanks for the push, girls.

Edited to add: des hen we must have posted at the same time. I love the term nerppy! At 5.5 wks we saw a sac of the correct size in the right place, at 7 weeks we saw and heard the 153 beats per minute heartbeat. and you made me laugh getting worried about the 'spots' in your undies! I know we are all as nerppy as each other.

This post has been edited by little lion: 27/03/2012, 01:29 PM

[porkchop's mama]

little lion - not at all. I don't think any of us could be capable of 'smug' after all that we've been through.

Lou87 - thank you for the kind wishes too.

It gave me hope and happiness today to find you all here, safe and well.

PCM xxx

[MaryLou88MaryLou]

Hello Ladies,

WELCOME DES HEN! Congratulations on the BFP – well done!! As all the other ladies all ready said the first trimester is tough but we will all be here to support you! I also had HCG tests done and they reassured me a lot (at least for a day or two hehe) and then also had an early ultrasound but that was due to spotting – I went to the emergency department at the RNSH that was when I was almost 7 weeks and we saw a little HB. After that I had two more scans before the NT just for my peace of mind. And yes I did have to pay for them in full and they were not covered by either private health insurance or medicare. Your fatigue sounds very promising and your increased saliva too! Keep up your positive mantra! Just lovely!

Jlove – Regarding your question on the urbo. Some shops also sell it in a slat and red colour which is a little more exciting than the black. I bought it at a baby kingdom sale and they only did the special price when buying it in black so I ended up with the black one but I do like it. The silver frame lightens it up a little too. Amazing that your DH is a photographer – you will have incredible baby photos. Little wriggly movements – CUTE! Your morph scan is not too far now – I hope you are not too nervous but obviously understandable if you are. I think we are all a little nervous when it comes to the morph scan. I am looking forward to hearing some great news from you Thursday. I will be thinking of you and crossing my fingers that everything is just perfect with your little bub! Good on you for not finding out the sex – I wish I could be that patient

Lala – a baby girl!! SO BEAUTIFUL! WELL DONE! I am so very happy for you!

Mojo – great pram report Will be interesting to hear which one you will buy at the end and for what reasons.

TheNewMrsS – Amazing news on your NT scan! Time seems to be flying by – YAY you have reached the second trimester and your babies are looking perfectly healthy! That is just so wonderful to hear. Well done! You must be over the moon and sooo incredibly happy! Not so great to hear that your nausea is so bad – I hope it will get better for you soon now that you are in the second trimester. Go away sickness! I am looking forward to hearing more from you when you are feeling better and when you have time.

Little Lion – great idea with booking in another scan! It really helped me to relax a little. And it is just so great to see the little bean. Enjoy! You poor thing – you don’t sound very well. Now also a cold ... Not nice. Well done on booking your NT appointment. Now you have a date to look forward to.

Loulla – The name Grace is so nice. Shame that you have negative associations with it. GGRRR to the cold – GO AWAY and leave our Loulla alone! I agree with you – it is just a miracle thinking that we all have a human being growing inside us. Just amazing! The moment we meet them will be so incredible.

Fairey – I hope you will be able to feel movement very very soon! Which ice cream did you go for YUM YUM!!

Lou – Morph scan tomorrow. Time really has just been flying by. I wish you all the best for tomorrow! I will be thinking of you and sending lots of healthy baby vibes. I think it is great that you are taking your mum. It will be nice for you to have someone with you and not be all alone and it will be wonderful and special for your mum to share the experience. She will never forget that. And after the scan you might even want to go on a shopping tour with your mum and by the donkey The pain you are having – do you think it is ligament pain? I hope you DH is home soon and will be able to share all up coming appointments and scans with you. I will be looking out for your tomorrow.

AFM – Last week of DH being away. Counting the hours...not long now. 3 more sleeps I have been struggeling to sleep this week and have had ligament pain on my right and side in the back where my hip is so I am looking forward to my Yoga class tonight which will hopefully help me stretch out and feel better and to get a nice deep sleep. I found a great product which I thought I would share with you – the PUJ tub. Because we have a small apartment I have been thinking “where will we bath the baby” because we don’t have a bath tub and those plastic tubs that you can buy are huge and that’s when I found a product from the US called puj tub. Here is the website http://pujbaby.com There are a few Australian websites you can order it from and mine arrived yesterday. I love it – it is nice and soft, easy to fold up and to store and fits just perfectly into our kitchen sink. I think that is all from me 7 days to go till my morph scan...

This post has been edited by MaryLou88MaryLou: 27/03/2012, 03:40 PM

[Fairey]

Just quickly...

Ice cream was great I had vanilla with a spoon of nutella on it (hey - whatever works!)

PCM - I think of you often, my love. I hope IVF is successful for you and that you are in here with us very soon xx

Lou - I'm glad that you're taking your mum. It's going to be beautiful to share the scan with her if you can't share it with your hubby. Enjoy your bubba!! xx

MaryLou - Thanks I hope I feel movement too (I keep asking the baby to kick harder and to flutter me.... but so far it doesn't seem to listen ) And yes - my husband thinks I'm completely insane!

[Fairey]

Forgot to say...

Des - laughed at your story about your undies!
If you do have some spots though (I only say this because I'm nearly 19 weeks and have a spot and or small clot every 1-2 weeks) don't stress too much straight away.
Spots = okay
Cramps = okay
Spots & Cramps (at the same time) = not okay

Fingers crossed you'll be nothing like me and see nothing sinster at all for the next 8ish months!!

[minidiamond]

You ladies !! impossible to keep up with so I'll make it quick.

Des, welcome, fabulous group here !

Porkchops, hi hun, all the very best, ditto to what Fairey said about you joining us here.

Lou, I am also up for morph scan tomorrow, I'll pop back in to check on you & let you know how we get on.

hugs & hi to all.....

[lalalollipop]

Hi lovelies

Liltuss - big hugs and positive vibes to you today... can't wait to hear your good news The restless legs sounds un-fun... did the massage help? The lullaby CD sounds beautiful, and so wonderful to have that from your mum.

Fairey - thanks for the MCN definition! Not you too with the leg issues (but lol on DH's comments ). I hear magnesium is great, my best friend had that during pregnancy on the recommendation of her naturopath, and she said not only did it help with cramps but it also helped curb sugar cravings!

Loulla - how great DH is a good photographer, you'll get so many lovely pg and baby pics. Your cocoa malt drink sounds YUM!

Little lion - sorry to hear you're sick. I've heard colds are common during pregnancy because the immune system shuts down so your body doesn't see the baby as a foreign object. My doc got me to have a flu shot this morning, apparently it's free and recommended for pg ladies. Good on you for having the reassurance scan, the more views of bub the better I say! I will be thinking of you

Jlove - haircut was ok, I don't love it because she didn't really do what I asked, but it's ok... besides, my hair is growing like crazy so it won't take long to grow back to normal anyways! Yay to wriggling, and not long til your morph scan - woo hoo! Glad the doppler worked.

Des - welcome, and sorry for what you've been through but so glad you're here with us and pregnant! We all know what it's like, and this group is a brilliant support (and we all know how tough and anxious the first tri is after MC) - so feel free to vent any and all anxieties and be swamped with reassurance x

MaryLou - glad DH is coming home Love, love, love the puj tub! We have the same situation, I think I'll get one too. How gorgeous is the little baby model in the bathtub, can't believe we'll all have one (or two, in the case of Lou and MrsS!) of our own in a few months

Mojo - you really are the pram guru. Maybe you should start up your own baby product review website!

MrsS - Congrats on the brilliant NT scan - great news!!! Sounds like the twins are doing great. Yep, we've had a girl's name for years now, and we both still love it. Will keep some boys names in mind, though, just in case. Boo to vomiting - it does seem twins make you sicker for longer! Hope you feel better soon - I remember thinking after the NT scan - ok, we've hit the second trimester, and that previously reassurring MS is no longer required, so bugger off!

Loulla - I bet you have heard some cracker names being a teacher. A friend of a friend of mine is a teacher and in her class she has a Beyonce and a Kanye!! (Sorry if anyone was thinking of naming their kid either of those names ). Yay for wriggles, and boo to sniffles...

Lou - thinking of you today, and waiting for your good news too . I get that aching at the sides, probably just growing pains/ligaments etc? I'm glad your mum can go with you - imagine how special it will be for her. And US has changed so much since we were in utero, she will be blown away. Sending you all the best vibes for a perfect scan.

PCM - hi, and hope you can join us soon. Our baby is IVF, so if you have any questions or want to chat please do! It was third time lucky for us... and yes, it's quite a journey and can be tough, but is a billion percent worth it to be nearly 20 weeks along and all going fine! Good luck (and by the way, the injections are a breeze - I was terrified but in the end bizarrely enjoyed doing the injections - it made me feel like I was making it all happen!)

Hi everyone else!

AFM - so as I said in my last quick post, scan went great! All the bits in all the right places, and appear to be working well. They couldn't get great pics of the heart - from what they can see it looks fine - but I have to go back in 4 weeks for another scan (yay, more BabyGirlTV!) to get clearer pics and do the 3D ones as she wasn't in a great position to see much with those. Only concern at this stage is the placenta now looks to be low-lying, so if it doesn't shift up a bit I won't be accepted at the Birth Centre any more and will have to transfer to the Labour Ward antenatal clinic, which is a bummer but in the long run I don't care, seeing it's all about what's best for the baby!

So little girl's doing great. Well, they said they only ever can say 80% certainty that it's a girl (boys are easier to pic, for obvious reasons!) so we may be suprised at the birth anyway! I don't mind either way, but it's nice to be able to call bubs 'she' instead of 'it' We had been calling it Peanut, but since the scan she's now referred to as Baby Girl. DH is is beside himself, she's got him wrapped around her finger before she's even out in the world. So sweet. He's already getting protective - jokingly said the other day he'll have to shop for a shotgun for when she starts dating, to scare bad boys away lol.

Have a great day girls
xxx