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Ali

[Luvbngamum]

Hi Ladies,

GOLD for me today yay,

School holidays officially start today, four kids home for two weeks argh!!!!

Bettymm; I must look up that blog that you are talking about, sounds great. i have always wanted to do a blog but just do not like the computer much. My Baby DS is walking, rather RUNNING. We call him Cyclone Harry because he is intent on destruction and just when you have cleaned up one mess, he is busy pulling out stuff to make another. I hate the bending and picking stuff up from the floor, it is getting very difficult to pick stuff up now. Am busy teaching him to put his own things away. He is definitely a very energetic boy but also so cute.

Spinning girl: LOL about your baby clothes still being in the car. You should see my car at the moment. It is a tarago and it has never been so messy. I am usually fussy about keeping the car clean but it has not had a decent clean for ages, since I have been pg. i keep hinting, hoping DH will do it but he just hasn't and I can not bear the thought of vacuming and cleaning it. Kids are on holidays now so might pay them to do it for me. Also LOl about the glass of champagne. I did not touch a drop in my first three pg but absolutely craved beer and champagne in my 4th and current pg. I hated beer before being pg with number 4 and now like to drink it. Have been craving all the wrong things this time too and have had a glass here and there, probably one a fortnight or every 3 weeks. Even at my sickest very cold, bubbly beer did not make me spew so maybe we have stumbled across a cure for hg, alcohol LOL!!!!! Glad all went well at your scan.

KeLLY: Prednisolone has been used for a while for hg, I had it last pg, very briefly, and my cousin was put on it 9 years ago to treat her hg. The problem is that Drs in Aust. are not great in treating hg so very few will even treat with Zofran let alone steroids. In the USA the health practitioners are so much better at diagnosing and treating hg. I had hg with all of my pg, even my pg 16 years ago but back then things were even worse and it was just treated as morning sickness. I lost 14 kg in 7 weeks and weighed only 61 kg to start with but still they did nothing, i was told it was normal. Welcome to our group. I hope you can keep dropping in.

Must fly, baby DS is awake and crying to be set lose from his crib.

Love to you all xx

[doctorseuss]

SILVER - yay!!

Hi Girls,
I am new to this thread but it has been lots of comfort reading through all the posts. I am 9 weeks tomorrow with #3 and feeling awful 24/7. With my previous children I had HG for 41 weeks so I know I'm in for another bad run. I'm on zofran, maxalon and took my first stemetil tonight. They help a little, but not much. I would take more zofran but for $$$, I do know about using half an 8mg wafer. I try to take zofran in the morning and maxalon in the evening as it knocks me out. I dont vomit that much and don't get dehydrated but have to constantly eat plain crackers, bread and lemon cordial to stop from . I hate all food now but have to eat. I've lost a couple of kilos with each pregnancy and it stays off (OK I'm not that disappointed about that ).

For the first time I am regretting falling pregnant. I feel bad about that, but I feel so sick I wish I just want it to be over. Work is busy (full-time, hectic job and no I can't cut down) as is home life with 2 toddlers and DH works away alot. Every cramp I get I think maybe this is it, I'll have a MC and it will be over but them remember how sick I am and realise its not going to happen. I explained to DH how I felt, he was shocked but asked me if I wanted a termination - I could never do that to a normal baby, and he wouldn't support that either. We always said we would have 3 kids, but were so busy with 2 we have chatted about stopping at 2, I wish I had now. I dont enjoy the newborn period either (DDs were shocking newborn sleepers, think 8 hours a day in small amounts, but great by 8-10 weeks), so its doom and gloom here - don't think its the maxalon, just the HG getting me down. Might ask my OB about prednisolone at my next appointment.

Anyway look forward to sharing the journey with you all and hope we can support each other through it.


xx

[Luvbngamum]

Hi Ladies,

Drseuss: Welcome to our group, you will find a lot of support and understanding here, it has literally saved my life and my sanity. You could try phenergan, an antihistamine, to help with the nausea and vomiting too. I tried it in my fourth pg and it did help a bit. Could not take it this time around as I was breast feeding and it does dry up breast milk. It makes you very drowsy so I would take it at night when i knew I had no more work or driving to do. It may help but does not always work for everyone, you can buy it over the counter at the chemist, just explain what you want it for. Other than that I tried acupuncture this time around and found that it helped greatly. I had really bad hg last pg but with early meds, acupuncture and a high protein diet I found this pg better. i was still very sick and felt yuk but no where near like last time. Before going in for a treatment of acupuncture I would be feeling nauseated and after a treatment I would sit up and be starving hungry. The effects of the acupuncture lasted for about four to five days. I would still have nausea and vomiting but would also have periods where there was very little nausea, usually toward the evening. It is worth a go. A couple of ladies are also finding success with hypnotherapy. I tried to eat high protein, cheese on my crakers, small pieces of cooked chicken, an egg, and quite a lot of almonds. I would also have high protein shakes a couple of times a day. I was never hungry but would force myself to eat or drink the shakes. They usually stayed down if I could sit or lie still after i had eaten. Sometimes everything would come back up but high protein and high carbs reduce nausea so I would persist with it. Other than that I just waited until the worst of it was over.
I completely understand where you are coming from re your thoughts toward your pregnancy. I think every one of the girls here has had the same feelings. I have only very recently felt a bond with this baby and for my last three pg would dream of an end to it all and would have probably had a termination if one was offered to me. My fourth pg was horrendous and I would lie in bed and cry to my DH begging for it all to end. i feel so guilty about all of that now. I love our baby DS to bits and just can't imagine life without him. It was the effects of the hg,not my true feelings but it does not make it any easier to deal with afterward, knowing that you had those thoughts in the first place. This time around I kept dreaming that they would find something wrong with this pg which would mean that I would have a miscarriage and I even hoped that at my 12 week scan they would find no heart beat and it would all be over. I am again mortified that I ever felt this way but constant nausea, dehydration and depression makes you have thoughts that are otherwise totally out of character for you. I have been lucky enough to get a break in the nausea and vomiting for the past 5 weeks or so, hopefully it stays that way. I vomited right up until D day with number 2 although it was not everyday, probably 3 times a week so I did get a rest from it then too.
Other than that I do not know what else to say other than I do not know how we do it but we do survive this and someday soon it will all be a distant memory for us all. It does end and although it seems like an end to it is ages away, it will come so every day passed is one day closer to the end of the hg. When eash day is over I think to myself '' I am one day closer to meeting her and being over this for good".
I really hope that you do not get the whole 41 weeks this time around and do get to enjoy some part of your pg. It is so unfair that pg is so exciting and wonderful for some women but a nightmare for others. Visit here often, the girls are great and all will have some ideas about what you may be able to try that may bring relief. The support is fantastic.

AFM: Went to bed Friday night feeling ok but woke up feeling nauseated and spent the rest of Friday night, Sat morning vomiting, yuk. I had the dreaded nausea all day yesterday and basically spent most of the day in bed. Feeling better today, not great but better. I am hoping it was a tummy bug and not the return of the hg. I hope that you are all having a good weekend.
hugs to all xx

P.S Spinning girl: The group that you mentioned sounds great, a lot like the one I am in. I think that it is important to put a plan in place for dealing with PND. I have had AND and PND as a result of the hg in this and last pg. I am terrified that the PND will return when this baby is born but do have a support plan in place to hopefully prevent that from happening. I think my state of mind had more to do with a post traumatic stress after last pg. I was not depressed just really anxious and could not leave baby DS with anyone, he had to be with me all of the time or I would have a panic attack. I would wake up with that knotted feeling in my stomach and that would last all day, I was teary and emotional all of the time. When it came time to dealing with it I eventually realized that it was linked to the pg. I believe my thoughts regarding wanting to be rid of my baby during the hg lead me to be so over protective when he was here. It was like I believed that by having those thoughts meant he was destined for something bad to happen to him. I kept saying to my DH, I wanted him gone, what if God does listen and decides to take him now. It took me ages to get past that and even now I still do not think I am totally past it. Getting help does improve things but i think giving yourself time to recover is also important.

XX

[doctorseuss]

Thanks Luvbngamum for your wonderful reply. It was so nice to hear your words. I too am hoping for some reason on US to terminate, it is a horrible thing to stay but I just want a break - I never felt like that before.

Sorry to hear about your illness, I hope it is gastro and will disappear again. I can't believe you've done this 5 times, you must be so determined.

I have tried phenergan before and it knocked me out but probably a good thing for night times. Acupuncture sounds good too, never had it so nervous though! Counting down the weeks doesn't help yet - only 31 or 32 weeks to go seems like a very long time!! I do adore babies so I'm sure in a years time I'll get over it but terrible to think this away about a child of ours.

I was asked twice today if we wanted a 3rd, its hard to know what we say. I just said the sensible thing would be to stop at 2 but we're not sure - can't really say I'm pregnant and regretting it! This baby isn't unplanned or unwanted, and we did always want 3. At least my mind is made up on that - there is no #4 ever, and DH agrees.

Wishing you all some improvement over the coming weeks.

xx

[bettymm]

Luvbngamum

im sorry you got a tummy bug! it does sound like one, rather than HG returning. but the LAST thing you need at the moment!!

doctorseuss, nice to meet you! though sorry to hear you have been suffering too. I just wanted to say Luvbngamum is right in saying that the majority of us wo have experienced HG have had those negative thoughts about the pregnancy, especially in early pregnancy when it feels like you have an eternity of nausea and vomiting ahead of you. I never had those feelings with DD and i believe that was because it was my first pregnancy i had no idea what was normal or not, how long it would last for. THIS pregnancy though, it was such a hard decision on when to start TTC , i went through a lot of anxiety about it and then we fell very quickly and the HG hit suddenly , i had many many thoughts that (and even said it aloud to a few different people) that i thought we made a mistake it really saddens me to think about that now i have started to feel better and bond with this bub.

I just want you to know your not alone in those feelings. I actually was half expecting something to be wrong at the 12 week scan due to my negative thoughts about the pregnancy. I stillhave those fears sometimes that something will be wrong with the baby because of how i felt.

AFM im still generally feeling better though still vomiting in the morning every second day or so. Hopefully that gets less and less as i am over it!! It hits so quickly i often miss the bucket and it ends up on the carpet which i then have to get up and clean. im just over starting the day like that!! BUT feeling a lot better during the day and have a good apetite now for all different foods so i shouldnt complain too much!

oh , first midwife appt went well..although she made some comment about how it sounds like i have a "sensitive stomach" which is not the case! normally when im not pregnant i have a cast iron stomach..never vomit, hardly ever pick up gastro or things like that. its just the damned HG!! anyway, she was great otherwise and was pleased how i had handled the HG this time and is working with me to get my diet and my body in better working order now.

Am measuring 2 weeks ahead of dates! i believe that is more to do with my lax stomach muscles than the size of the bub but im sur epopping out now!

take care everyone , hope you have a great weekend
xx

This post has been edited by bettymm: 10/07/2011, 01:24 PM

[Serenzy]

Luvbngamum, sorry you're feeling awful again, hopefully it's just a tummy bug.

bettymm, I hope it stops for you soon you poor thing! Sorry but I had to laugh about the sensitive stomach! I can't remember if I asked if you're having bub at TCH?

Welcome doctorseuss, sorry you had to come and find us though. I hope it eases off for you before birth day. *hugs*

AFM, have been back to vomiting even during the night the past few days. Urgh. BUT the end is in sight, and I'll never have to go through this again!

[bettymm]

Hi Serenzy
ugh sorry to hear the vomiting has made a return but you are on the home stretch now!!! so exciting

yes, im booked into the birth centre at TCH. Apart from the stupid "sensitive stomach" comment, midwife was lovely, we have the same idea about the kind of birth im aiming for and she is very supportive of that. she will be my primary midwife the whole way through and at the birth as well.

I had DD at Calvary. The labour itself was wonderful and i was in love with my midwife!! she was an angel. Downside was i hate d the shared ward there, DH couldnt stay and i had a nightmare time there by myself with a screaming newborn and very unhelpful night staff! DH can stay with me at the birth centre overnight thank goodness.

hope you get a frewe vomit free days before bubs comes!

[Nicole7]

drseuss - welcome! Sorry you're feeling so awful, though. I had similar thoughts about this pregnancy and felt horrendously guilty about it until I found out that most of this group feels the same way. I haven't bonded with this baby at all and regret getting pregnant. I was also hoping that there would be something really wrong with the baby at the ultrasound so we could terminate without feeling guilty - can't believe I'd wish for an unhealthy baby!

Luvbngamum - I hope it's just a tummy bug and you start to feel better soon. Good luck surviving the school holidays.

Bettymm - Love the sensitive stomach comment. I'm the same - never get gastro.

Serenzy - I hope you get some good days before bubba comes. At least the end is near!

AFM - haven't vomited in about a week but am still taking maxolon and zofran. I tried taking half a zofran on Weds but felt nauseous enough to take the other half pretty quickly and the nausea dragged on for a few days. I feel a bit guilty about the cost - I might be able to go without them and put up with the nausea and occasional spew, but it's just been so nice to feel "normal" and play with DD. I'll take the zofran for another couple of weeks and then try to cut back again.

[doctorseuss]

Hi Girls,
Thanks so much for all the supportive comments, I am so relieved to hear there are others like me and these horrible thoughts about my baby are a result of the HG. I too am hoping for an abnormal scan at 12 weeks, just any way out of this illness. I hope to bond after that!! Knowning the sex will help too, especially if it is a boy. We are considering a CVS but I dont know if I am doing it for the right reasons, has anyone had one?

I'm now on stemetil during the day, zofran if it gets too bad, and maxalon at night. I still have to eat every hour, and the kind of food I don't normally go for - crackers, toast, salty meat, lemon cordial, lemon tea. My work colleagues must think I'm crazy - or must realise I'm pregnant. Two have asked in the last few weeks if I'll have a third! I'm hating food now, but cant wait to have a cappucino and cake and yoghurt in the maternity ward (I did that last time, and lots of other yummy food).

It is just so sad that some of us suffer like this, and others just love being pregnant. My mother said she just glowed with health and happiness, and two of my pregnant colleagues just complain f hunger - I no longer feel hungry ever, if my stomach empties I'm sick! My only soothing thought is that maybe I'll get a good feeder and sleeper again (well from 8/10 weeks), maybe that's my compensation. We all deserve it!!

Thanks again girls, I hope you all get some relief soon.
xx