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post 13/04/2009, 04:17 PM
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Almost 10 weeks has already flown by since my second son, Ethan, was born, and just over a week ago he had his first of many vaccinations. I was dreading the event because our eldest son, Noah, gave me a horrible look I’ll never forget when he had his first jabs. Ethan was exactly two months old on the day of his vaccination and it couldn’t have come sooner.

My worry about my son being in pain for a short time is nothing compared with how I would feel if I was sitting with him in hospital as his tiny body fought for breath. We live on the NSW Central Coast, an area which is currently experiencing an outbreak of whooping cough so bad I’ve heard of people quarantining themselves and their children so there is no chance of infection. Our local newspaper, the Central Coast Express Advocate, reported there had been 246 cases of whooping cough in this region in January and February this year, compared with 397 in all of 2008.

Now Ethan has had his first vaccination he at least has some protection against whooping cough. Noah has already been vaccinated so that just leaves my husband and I to get our booster shots. My parents are also planning to ask for the booster shots as they spend so much time with our children. There is an information sheet on whooping cough on the NSW Government website: http://www.health.nsw.gov.au/factsheets/in.../pertussis.html

When I was pregnant with Noah we attended ante-natal classes with a couple who were planning on not having their child vaccinated. While I respect their decision not to vaccinate, I have wondered many times over the past few weeks if they had changed their minds, particularly in light of the outbreak in the area we live. If their child, who would be three, did contract whooping cough would other children have been put at risk as a result?

I lived in England at the time many parents refused the triple MMR (measles, mumps and rubella) vaccination. Andrew Wakefield published a study in 1998 reporting 12 children had developed autism and bowel symptoms soon after their MMR needle. Instead these parents paid for three separate needles for their children, or some refused to vaccinate at all and vaccination rates in the UK declined. Several studies since then have not found a link between the vaccine and autism, and in 2004 10 of Dr Wakefield’s 12 co-authors retracted their statements.

The way I look at vaccination is: there is a tiny risk of an adverse reaction, compared to a much, much bigger risk of my children contracting a host of diseases if I had chosen not to vaccinate them. I’m willing to take the smaller risk.

As for how Ethan fared with his vaccination: he lapped up the syringe of rotavirus vaccine and screamed very loudly for both needles. I must have looked worse though, as the midwife spent more time comforting me than my baby. The anticipation of his pain got the better of me and I cried. Next time I must take some moral support!

What are your views on vaccination and how did you and your child/ren cope when they were jabbed?
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~Bambi~
post 16/04/2009, 09:56 AM
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It's just that I don't like you.
so many 'new' members in here...
I was under the impression that our (aust) vaccines for MMR had been changed and no longer contained the ingredient that was linked with causing autism...

I actually read that on EB somewhere and they had a link? anyone else know where that is?

anyway, i chose to not to vaccinate at birth (or have vit K) but chose to have the following vaccinations.

Its a parents right to choose.
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- JohBD   The thorny issue of needles   13/04/2009, 04:17 PM
- - suziej   My sister is good friends with the mother who lost...   13/04/2009, 04:23 PM
- - JohBD   It would be so horrible to lose a baby, let alone ...   13/04/2009, 04:34 PM
- - blissfulqueenb   Can't you just go read any of the multitudes o...   13/04/2009, 07:25 PM
- - kb78   i think perhaps that you should research some more...   14/04/2009, 10:08 PM
- - katjas   I recieved the letter about the fre whooping cough...   15/04/2009, 03:53 PM
- - Kate's first !   To the people who do not vaccinate their children ...   15/04/2009, 04:20 PM
- - kenziesmom   I am not commenting on the whooping cough vaccinat...   15/04/2009, 04:54 PM
- - ceils   I would rather have a child with autism than a dea...   15/04/2009, 05:28 PM
- - ella30   QUOTE I would rather have a child with autism than...   15/04/2009, 05:46 PM
- - mumhas2boys   I'll leave the do/do not debate alone for now,...   15/04/2009, 05:55 PM
- - clare1975   If you don't want to vaccinate, please researc...   15/04/2009, 06:48 PM
- - kb78   the only issue i have is with those who state opin...   15/04/2009, 06:56 PM
- - anti-mumbojumbo   Good on you Joh for making an informed decision to...   15/04/2009, 08:17 PM
- - bondimum   QUOTE BTW, in the USA, the first court case agains...   15/04/2009, 09:16 PM
- - steviej   Don't fall for the misinformation. Vaccination...   16/04/2009, 08:24 AM
- - premmie-29-weeks   I'm not a mother as yet, I certainly want chil...   16/04/2009, 09:25 AM
- - JohBD   Thanks everybody for your discussion on my post. I...   16/04/2009, 09:41 AM
- - JohBD   Hi yummymummy85 You are so right about it being a...   16/04/2009, 04:17 PM
- - kyliesa   Hi, Vaccination saves lives. This is based on sci...   16/04/2009, 11:36 PM
- - mychellew   If you are going to immunise your children, go ahe...   17/04/2009, 12:34 PM
- - Twunty   QUOTE If there are people out there who don't ...   17/04/2009, 01:46 PM
- - beej37   Hi , I think this article is quite ridiculous, if ...   17/04/2009, 04:15 PM
- - ellamac   Hi there The fact is that if we all chose not to ...   17/04/2009, 04:42 PM
- - Orient99   QUOTE You know, I think the sun would still rise, ...   18/04/2009, 01:04 AM
- - Island-Kylie   QUOTE A few of my friends have had whooping cough ...   18/04/2009, 09:52 AM
- - JohBD   Thanks for your comments everyone, and thanks Kyli...   18/04/2009, 04:50 PM
- - Prickly   OK - I'll bite......... QUOTE and it is the b...   18/04/2009, 05:28 PM
- - sydneywil   The problem here is the belief that parents who do...   19/04/2009, 09:51 AM
- - informed9   2 things... Read any unbiased source on autism an...   19/04/2009, 10:03 AM
- - Larissa   QUOTE Studies of unimmunised children vs immunised...   19/04/2009, 08:20 PM
- - informed9   Studies showing no difference in rates between imm...   20/04/2009, 05:02 PM
- - Larissa   You might want to read that study again, it's ...   22/04/2009, 12:51 PM
- - museinmelbourne   For those who claim that there is no harm to vacci...   22/04/2009, 04:32 PM
- - tranquilsoul   THERE IS ANOTHER OPTION!!!! I...   23/04/2009, 12:12 AM
- - ella30   Hi Tranquilsoul, We have used homepathic medicines...   23/04/2009, 12:34 AM
- - poss71   QUOTE Personally I dont vaccinate - I did a LOT of...   23/04/2009, 01:21 AM
- - sydneywil   Dear Jo, she didnt say anything about age range sh...   23/04/2009, 09:32 AM
- - vee78   As new parents my husband and I didn't think t...   23/04/2009, 10:10 AM
- - poss71   QUOTE (sydneywil)she didnt say anything about age ...   23/04/2009, 01:10 PM
- - gabbigirl   For those living on the Sunshine Coast (and I thin...   23/04/2009, 01:34 PM
- - areyouforreal   I have to say I am deeply concerned by members on ...   23/04/2009, 04:27 PM
- - Larissa   QUOTE which will just give you the hard facts Ha...   23/04/2009, 04:59 PM
- - Pagan   Bizarre how many new members are in here scaremong...   23/04/2009, 07:23 PM
- - JohBD   Thanks ella30 and tranquilsoul for introducing hom...   24/04/2009, 09:47 AM
- - lola2   Ok, there's no room for diplomacy on this issu...   24/04/2009, 02:51 PM
- - zande   Wow, I have never seen so many "new" mem...   24/04/2009, 03:00 PM
- - lola2   Zande, I'm really surprised that you can do a ...   24/04/2009, 04:43 PM
- - zande   lola, believe me, I didn't do it because I rea...   24/04/2009, 05:42 PM
- - sydneywil   Larissa32 - Im with you about the lack of research...   24/04/2009, 11:48 PM
- - poss71   QUOTE A couple of weeks ago I found out my friend...   27/04/2009, 01:02 AM
- - lola2   Thanks Poss71 Like I said, everyone I spoke to wa...   27/04/2009, 01:11 PM
- - susanmumo3   I never hesitated to vaccinate all three of my gir...   28/04/2009, 07:21 PM
- - lola2   Dear Susanmumo3 I'm sure vaccinations are not...   28/04/2009, 11:18 PM
- - Pagan   QUOTE I don't have respect for parents who vac...   29/04/2009, 09:41 AM
- - ratbags   Great post Lola   29/04/2009, 10:01 AM
- - Cat©   Funnily enough when I went to the main teaching ho...   29/04/2009, 10:23 AM
- - ratbags   QUOTE Actually Pagan, no research has confirmed th...   29/04/2009, 10:24 AM
- - sissyhankshaw   lola2 27/04/2009, 01:11 PM I'm suggesting t...   29/04/2009, 10:29 AM
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