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12/02/2013, 07:44 AM
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I keep seeing the ads for 60 minutes starting back this Sunday with Liz Hayes interviewing him. I wonder what he will have to say this time.
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12/02/2013, 07:49 AM
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I keep seeing the ads for 60 minutes starting back this Sunday with Liz Hayes interviewing him. I wonder what he will have to say this time. Who cares what he has to say |
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12/02/2013, 07:54 AM
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He doesn't really interest me. However, mental illness does affect different people in different ways. So it would be interesting to see what is said.
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12/02/2013, 07:54 AM
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I will watch it but more so I can roll my eyes at the stupidity and excuses he will no doubt dish out.
I get he was a good actor/writer for 5 minutes but other than that all he is is Bert newtons son, enough already! |
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12/02/2013, 08:11 AM
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So Sassy Girl, what constitutes a 'real mental illness'?
Don't like him and abhor his behaviour ? This is absolutely your right and understandable but you have no right to comment on his mental illness and whether it is real or not. efs This post has been edited by soontobegran: 12/02/2013, 08:12 AM |
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12/02/2013, 08:25 AM
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Thank you STBG.
Every time I see and hear reports on Matthew Newton, i am reeminded that his situation is almost identical to that of a family member of mine. Mental illness is not a generic "one-size fits all" presentation. Just because the PPs mental illness doesn't present in this way, does mean he doesn't have a mental illness. He is a similar age to my family member, and I from what I have heard, many of his childhood issues were similar. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually. I feel incredibly sad for his family, as I know only too well what it is like to live with. |
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12/02/2013, 06:50 PM
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. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually. So very true Mumma3. This is a family that would have accessed all the care that was available to them at the time and I do believe Matthew has slipped through the cracks just like so many of these decades. Matthew's problems have been life long and whilst I under no circumstances condone his behaviour and realise his non compliance to accepting help has been a huge factor it is just so very wrong to make statements about whether he is 'really'mentally ill or not. I am sorry your family has had to live through this too. |
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16/02/2013, 12:50 PM
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Thank you STBG. Every time I see and hear reports on Matthew Newton, i am reeminded that his situation is almost identical to that of a family member of mine. Mental illness is not a generic "one-size fits all" presentation. Just because the PPs mental illness doesn't present in this way, does mean he doesn't have a mental illness. He is a similar age to my family member, and I from what I have heard, many of his childhood issues were similar. Sadly, the 70s and 80s were not a time for children and families to get assistance when behavioural, developmental and mental issues arose, and they, like us, were told he just needed more dicipline. Still happens a lot, actually. I feel incredibly sad for his family, as I know only too well what it is like to live with. So well said. I feel very sorry for the people who have been hurt by his abusive behaviour. Like most people, I do not condone that in any way whatsoever. But I think the reaction the Newton family now get is a great example of how we as a society do not accept, understand or really care about mental illness, and force families to hide it. They are a decent, hardworking and supportive family. They love their children and seem to have tried to do their best by them. And they have a son who has had a difficult time. I don't know if it is the tall poppy syndrome, or what. But I wish we could be more supportive and understanding. Instead of the accusations of faking it, using it to hide behind, or as an excuse. There, but for the grace of whatever you believe in, goes any one of us. |
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17/02/2013, 03:07 PM
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So very true Mumma3. This is a family that would have accessed all the care that was available to them at the time and I do believe Matthew has slipped through the cracks just like so many of these decades. Matthew's problems have been life long and whilst I under no circumstances condone his behaviour and realise his non compliance to accepting help has been a huge factor it is just so very wrong to make statements about whether he is 'really'mentally ill or not. I am sorry your family has had to live through this too. So well said. I feel very sorry for the people who have been hurt by his abusive behaviour. Like most people, I do not condone that in any way whatsoever. But I think the reaction the Newton family now get is a great example of how we as a society do not accept, understand or really care about mental illness, and force families to hide it. They are a decent, hardworking and supportive family. They love their children and seem to have tried to do their best by them. And they have a son who has had a difficult time. I don't know if it is the tall poppy syndrome, or what. But I wish we could be more supportive and understanding. Instead of the accusations of faking it, using it to hide behind, or as an excuse. There, but for the grace of whatever you believe in, goes any one of us. Well said, both of you. I think people are accepting of those with mental health issues... until it impacts them. All talk until they actually have to stand up and actually forgive someone with a mental illness who might make a mistake. |
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17/02/2013, 04:16 PM
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This is heartbreaking - and also completely stupid.
My whole extended family are going to boycott the show. It is horrendously ignorant expecting a person to make value judgements on their lack of insight at the time of their breakdown; the very lack of insight and judgement is part of the breakdown..... The interviewers don't get it - if he had the insight or normal understanding of what was going on, he would not have been in a state of "breakdown". Cruelty and judgement is not what people with mental illness need. I am not interested in someone with a mental illness being humiliated just because they happen to have well known parents. My heart brakes for them. It's 2013 and people still lack this much compassion towards mental illness? An absolute disgrace. |
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