[Marley&Me]

I have a Bugaboo Cameleon which I have loved previous children. It is well loved and the button has gone on the seat positioner. It will cost around $150 for a refurbished one. I too have always disliked the bulky two part assembly.

As a result, I was thinking of buying a secondhand Bugaboo Bee and wondering how they compare to a Cameleon?

It would only be used on paths, shopping centres etc as I have a Mountain Buggy for walking.

So, i have a few qustions im hoping you might be able to help with....

Is a Bee better than a Cameleon for any purposes?

Does it fold into one piece on both forward & rear facing positions?

Are there any compatible capsules that can be used on a Bee?

And most importantly, can the child sit as upright as they can in the Cameleon? (that was the main selling point when we bought the Cameleon....

Lastly, does the Cameleon wheeled toddler board and footmuff fit the Bee?

I appreciate your time & thank you in advance

This post has been edited by Marley&Me: 06/02/2013, 11:13 AM

[Marley&Me]

Anyone???

[lclb]

I can answer some of your questions but not all..

I have owned both the cameleon and the bee.

The bee is better for folding and storing in the car as it takes up much less space. Also easier to get around tighter spaces in shops etc.

THe bee does fold in 1 piece no matter what direction the seat is facing.

I have used the Maxi Cosi mico capsule with my bee. I think there is a Peg Prego that fits it too.

The seat does not go a upright as the cameleon, it is slightly reclined at its most upright.

I had an older model cameleon and bee and could not interchange the footmuff. I am not sure if the newer models are mow inter changable or not. I've never used a toddler board with mine.

Honestly my bee stays in my car all the time, I use it as a stroller for the shops or traveling. It has always coped well with travel, I've used it in NYC, London and Singapore without any issues, including in snow. I replaced my cameleon with a BJCS for the double mode as had 2 needing the pram, I use that for walking to the park etc.

[Marley&Me]

I can answer some of your questions but not all..

I have owned both the cameleon and the bee.

The bee is better for folding and storing in the car as it takes up much less space. Also easier to get around tighter spaces in shops etc.

THe bee does fold in 1 piece no matter what direction the seat is facing.

I have used the Maxi Cosi mico capsule with my bee. I think there is a Peg Prego that fits it too.

The seat does not go a upright as the cameleon, it is slightly reclined at its most upright.

I had an older model cameleon and bee and could not interchange the footmuff. I am not sure if the newer models are mow inter changable or not. I've never used a toddler board with mine.

Honestly my bee stays in my car all the time, I use it as a stroller for the shops or traveling. It has always coped well with travel, I've used it in NYC, London and Singapore without any issues, including in snow. I replaced my cameleon with a BJCS for the double mode as had 2 needing the pram, I use that for walking to the park etc.

Thank you lclb, I really appreciate you taking the time to reply! Great to hear your Bee has been really well used. That's what I had in mind too, thinking it would be more user friendly than the Cameleon. It's disappointing that it doesn't sit as upright as the Cameleon. It is such a benefit when kids don't like sitting in a pram (past experience lol),

Thanks again

[PreachersWife]

I have the newer model Bee (the Plus) and you could probably get a second hand one of these now too (mine was ought in 2010) so can answer a few of your questions for the newer model. You can tell the different model most easily by looking at the wheels, earlier Bees have solid white wheels, newer model has white spoked wheels (similar to the Chameleon). Another difference is it has a foot operated brake (single pedal) compared to the hand brake on the chameleon.

I can fold my bee with the seat rear and forward facing, I think it maybe easier to switch the seat direction on the newer model also? I just flip the seat all the way forward (looks like its folded in half) lift it off, switch and click in and unfold.

It has a no-thread harness which lengthens as you lengthen the seat back, so starts short with newborn and extends up, again I think it has a taller seat back to the previous model. You can also lengthen the bum bit of the seat.

The new footmuff and wheeled board are universal but I don't rink the old board fits on the bee plus, not sure? I have the new one and its good, steers well although I need to make the handle longer and stand to the side a bit. But it steers one-handed so to a problem.

I used the maxi Cosi Mico capsule with my bee also, I believe that it is the only one with proper adapters but have heard of people using the safety 1st capsule with the maxi Cosi adapter but you need to unscrew something???

I find the first seating position on my Bee quite upright (which is excellent), there are three seating positions and I used the middle one until my kids could sit unaided as the first was too upright, I think this is also a change from the previous model. I notice a huge difference between upright in the Bee and in my other jogger pram (Baby Jogger Elite)

Mine also stays in the car for shopping, school rums etc but I LOVE it!

[Marley&Me]

I have the newer model Bee (the Plus) and you could probably get a second hand one of these now too (mine was ought in 2010) so can answer a few of your questions for the newer model. You can tell the different model most easily by looking at the wheels, earlier Bees have solid white wheels, newer model has white spoked wheels (similar to the Chameleon). Another difference is it has a foot operated brake (single pedal) compared to the hand brake on the chameleon.

I can fold my bee with the seat rear and forward facing, I think it maybe easier to switch the seat direction on the newer model also? I just flip the seat all the way forward (looks like its folded in half) lift it off, switch and click in and unfold.

It has a no-thread harness which lengthens as you lengthen the seat back, so starts short with newborn and extends up, again I think it has a taller seat back to the previous model. You can also lengthen the bum bit of the seat.

The new footmuff and wheeled board are universal but I don't rink the old board fits on the bee plus, not sure? I have the new one and its good, steers well although I need to make the handle longer and stand to the side a bit. But it steers one-handed so to a problem.

I used the maxi Cosi Mico capsule with my bee also, I believe that it is the only one with proper adapters but have heard of people using the safety 1st capsule with the maxi Cosi adapter but you need to unscrew something???

I find the first seating position on my Bee quite upright (which is excellent), there are three seating positions and I used the middle one until my kids could sit unaided as the first was too upright, I think this is also a change from the previous model. I notice a huge difference between upright in the Bee and in my other jogger pram (Baby Jogger Elite)

Mine also stays in the car for shopping, school rums etc but I LOVE it!

Thank you PreachersWife for taking the time to respond, lots of things I didn't know so I appreciate it. Glad you are happy with yours!

I missed out on a Bee Plus the other week and am kicking myself as it was a great price

I will keep looking!