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SoxyMama
post 06/01/2013, 09:52 PM
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We have dodgy neighbours. Albeit we are moving and their lease will not be renewed and they leave a few days before us. However, I would like to know why the agent acts 'powerless' to do anything about them? Here are a few of the complaints and happenings:

* Police stakeout to which they found 20K worth of stolen goods
* Unregistered large dogs that aren't confined by fences (rather some old couches) and have escaped on numerous occasions, have killed neighbours chickens (been caught doing so) have been impounded several times but they always end up back with the neighbours. When the animals are there they are often left for a week at a time locked in the garage when they disappear for days/weeks on end
* Very reckless behaviour in the neighbourhood particularly driving
* Busted locally for theft
* Neighbour across from us had stuff from his yard stolen, this was after the morning on new years we heard them screaming 'we got away with it' as the neighbours were away.
* Ripped off the screen door when they drive/or plummit through too fast
* Unlicensed drivers and car theft (she continued driving her unregistered and unplated car for several weeks after they were caught
* She denies any of it (oh it was just my friend)
* Constantly on drugs (ie appear 'fine' one day then off their face the next, screaming shouting, carrying on and constantly driving recklessly
* Same said neighbour across from us they recklessly backed the car and broke their carport
* Constant complaints to the REA from us, from the neighbour and from the neighbours whose chickens died as a result of their dogs, and of all the other things they have done
* Have never cut their grass, we live in a high fire zone and the grass is well over a metre high. In fact I heard kids that were visiting there scream 'snake, snake' today.
* Constantly hooning up and down the road and making rackets at ungodly hours of the morning
* Other times they've backed into trees and posts because they cannot drive to save themselves (not to mention we have a street full of little kids)

I live in constant fear of these people knocking our stuff off. She was caught red-handed breaking into a neighbouring house. They are complete idiots.

The only reason they stay on is 'dear Daddy' who is a reputable GP buys her way out of everything, pays the rent on time and supports her. So because they 'pay the rent on time'... or 'he pays the rent on time' they get to stay! I only know about all the ins and outs because I have good friends who know the family and the drs, and they have said that they do so.

It just irritates me that no-one can stop these thieving drug addicts from living there.

I know we're both moving, but until then I live fearing for our stuff being broken into, and the grass catching fire when they accidentally throw out a cigarette on the lawn or something stupid.

And I want to know WHY the agent doesn't do anything about it? I can assure you after we move and our house settles (as we bought it through the same agent) I'll be having a serious word about their rental department (as it is in a diff location/suburb than the sales agency) and I doubt he knows what is going on. Whenever we email or call, we are pretty much fobbed off and told there is nothing they can do. They've even had the police report to the agent but apparently it is considered here-say until she is convicted.

But that doesn't count all the 'other' reckless behaviour.

The only thing is she has been 'nice' enough to me. I had some junk to clear and she took some of that, and she was all repentant and acted completely innocent. I've tried to stay out of her way and keep to myself, as if I know nothing at all, as I don't want to draw attention to myself. The other neighbour has made it very clear his opinions of them so perhaps why he has been targeted by theft. But I don't get why she acts all innocent and lovely, and completely normal, then a couple of days later acts like a complete moron.
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post 06/01/2013, 10:02 PM
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We have been in a situation where we as landlords had tenants that were the neighbours from hell ( not as bad as yours though!) We could not do anything either.

The problem is that the rental agreement is between the tenant and the landlord, if the tenant pays the rent there is not much the landlord can do.
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Sinister Bonnet
post 06/01/2013, 10:04 PM
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Tenants rights which for the most part is the right thing.

We live next door to a house which theoretically has 2 adults and 2 children. In reality it has up to 6 kids and about 10 adults. The noise level is insane and when they have a weekend party it's unbearable. Property manager says when she does the inspection, property is up to standards and the house appears to have the right number of tenants.
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post 06/01/2013, 10:12 PM
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I wont go into it too much but a few years ago we had bad tenants. They turned our well maintained and very tidy investment property into a cesspit within 4 short months. They also stopped paying rent.

We couldn't get them out though because they have kids and rights too apparently. Meanwhile my rights as an investor, landlord, mortgage holder and mother to a family of my own were nil and void. I read so much on EB from tenants whinging they have no rights but in fact it's the other way around. We were left with a massive clean up bill and loss of rent. We were told not to waste our money reclaiming in court either because a judge will write off their debt as they have kids. (WTF, so do I.)

My blood is boiling just typing it.

Do these morons have children?
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post 06/01/2013, 10:14 PM
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All i can say is i feel sorry for you op sad.gif
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Sinister Bonnet
post 06/01/2013, 10:20 PM
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Bek I feel very sorry for the investors who own the next door house. The wear and tear on the house with all the extra people is visible and I don't understand the property manager's approach. I've talked to her a few times about how much their tenancy is impacting our lives and she is all nothing they can do.
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post 06/01/2013, 10:23 PM
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Police stakeout to which they found 20K worth of stolen goods


You think they would go to jail for that?
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post 06/01/2013, 10:26 PM
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We live next to a boarding house and had a fair bit of trouble from them too. Some similar things you are going through.A guy from council who also lives by and witnessed it has has helped a bit. He went after the land lord. migh be a bit different as landlord is directly involved with the property. See if you can go through council re the dogs, fencing, fire danger, health dept, anything that will dump them in paperwork. Police can't do much of anything but they are now known to council and the police very well. Paper trail Is there along with complaints from many other people. Amazing what you find out when you talk to all the other neighbours too. Isn't there something in a lease about quiet enjoyment or similar?

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post 06/01/2013, 10:27 PM
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She doesn't but her thieving friends do. She also took some kids stuff amongst my junk she said was for her neices. Thing is in front of some people like me she acts completely innocent!

Cannot wait to move as we won't have neighbours.

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post 06/01/2013, 10:27 PM
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The problem is that they have to break the term of the lease. You can look up the reason you can breach a tenant if you want to, but it can be quite hard to do.

I had tenants who would have loud parties. The police wou ld be called. I would send them a breach notice, for impacting on their neighbours quiet enjoyment of the property. They would have 14 days to remedy the breach, which meant that they just had to not have a party loud enough for the police to be called in the next 14 days. If they didn't the whole process would start again at the beginning. If they do then I could send them a second one, after that I could go to the tenancies list at VCAT and ask for the tenants to be evicted.

It is a very long and involved process, with many chances given to the tenants.
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