[Sweet like a lem...]

http://www.theage.com.au/national/gender-p...0103-2c718.html

Has anyone read this? I'm a bit speechless. I don't get why we value our girls so much less the our boys. Do our girls not deserve equal pay?

[Jemstar]

Everyone deserves equal pay. Gender shouldn't come into it at all. It's ridiculous.

[Saecularis Angel...]

One thing the article didn't mention, which I wondered about, was whether men and women tended to apply for the same jobs at the same rate. Do women pitch at slightly lower paid jobs, which they think they can get as new graduates, where men pitch at jobs which would be better paid but perceived as harder to get?

[Gloriosa]

I will read it, but I'm scared to. I've been feeling so downtrodden lately reading more and more things that seem to be against equality. It's so disheartening and it's making my mood down in the dumps. Why does everything seem to be against us? Why is what we have between our legs so dividing? How, in this day and age are people still seeing us as 2nd best? Why is it not only men, but other women also that are holding us back? Why do people think the feminist's fight was won years ago and there's nothing left to fix?

I was going to start a rant about what I've been feeling lately, but I thought I'd use this thread lol. Off to read the link and get more depressed at what the future holds for my daughter.

[50ftqueenie]

One thing the article didn't mention, which I wondered about, was whether men and women tended to apply for the same jobs at the same rate. Do women pitch at slightly lower paid jobs, which they think they can get as new graduates, where men pitch at jobs which would be better paid but perceived as harder to get?

I think there is probably something in this, in addition to the usual problems of "boys club" industries like Architecture and Law, and the undervaluing of women's abilities in general.

I too despair for my daughter on days like these.

[Sweet like a lem...]

I despair for my daughter too. She is reason for us being here, to afford her with better opportunities in a fairer world. Okay, we're not India (God knows their girls deserve so much more) and we're not South Africa or so many other places, but reading that the gap in widening not shrinking screams slippery slope and it's very disheartening.
Ange Vert, this article is US based but it goes a long way to debunking the ambition myth:
http://www.theatlantic.com/business/archiv...age-gap/265744/

[Beancat]

I have read this and am not surprised.

Girls/women are notoriously bad at selling their abilities and taking a hard line on salary negotiation. These abilities do not come naturally to women. We need to teach our girls the confidence to negotiate hard and objectively. We need to instill in them the confidenfe to believe that their contribution is worthy.

I recently took a redundancy but was paid better than the other females in my group. Most of my female friends are paid poorly. They seem to see asking for a pay raise as a persoal thing and dont want to upset the apple cart.

Ladies, you need to promote and sell your worthwhile skills/attributes and get the best price for your contribution. It is no different to selling your house/car etc

[lsolaBella]

I am with beancat on this.

I always kept my mouth shut when salary discussions came up at work.... I knew I was earning more then my senior (male) but did not want to rock any boats as I was offically a junior (had come in from different area).

I always went for jobs which were outside my comfort zone and talked up my skills. I was earning more then the males.

[katpaws]

It will interesting to see how all this goes in the future. More women are undertaking higher education than men these days and are more likely to succeed in their studies. This will have to affect the gender inequality of pay rates, surely.

[Sweet like a lem...]

It will interesting to see how all this goes in the future. More women are undertaking higher education than men these days and are more likely to succeed in their studies. This will have to affect the gender inequality of pay rates, surely.

I don't know. More women have been doing HE for decades now. There are more women in the workforce than ever before and yet there it is - widening.