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> deliberately lit fires, why do they do it?

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post 03/01/2013, 08:18 PM
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45 degrees tomorrow after an already hot day today. One bush fire still burning (3rd day??) and two suspected deliberately lit fires today.

Its worrying with catastrophic conditions in the hills tomorrow and one of the hottest days in years and fire bugs are already trying to light fires.

Are they trying to kill people or just get the thrill from lighting it in the first place??

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post 03/01/2013, 08:22 PM
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One thing about living where I am, it's been over 45 degrees every day for two months, and it continues with near 50s on the way, at least we have nothing to burn.

DF and I are members of the CFS, and if we had a full squad we'd be sent south to help out. I will never understand why peoples start fires for fun.
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post 03/01/2013, 08:24 PM
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I can't even begin to imagine what is going on in their heads.

My dad always tells me about when he was young and the young firefighters (he never was one) used to sometimes light one so they could get the 'thrill' of saving everyone.

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For example, a recent New South Wales study of bushfire arson found that the ‘average’
offender was male and had an average age of 26.6 years, although 31 per cent were aged less than 18 at the time
of the offence. Despite there being no typical profile of a deliberate fire-setter, there is some evidence that particular
features are more commonly seen among fire-setters than among other offenders. Most international studies have
found that fire-setters tend to be young men with interpersonal difficulties, drug or alcohol dependence, evidence
of an unstable childhood, and some form of mental health problem. Among other typical characteristics were being
racially ‘white’, low socio-economic status, a poor academic and employment record, and an extensive criminal
history, with many crimes that were not identified or prosecuted. As noted, however, these characteristics are
similar to those applying to many other offenders, and predictors for arson offenders re-offending tend to be similar
to those for other offenders. As a result, these factors offer only limited predictive assistance.11


from https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca...ZtTqyfQRvaKgHTw

Heaps more interesting reading there about the reasons, types, etc.

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post 03/01/2013, 08:26 PM
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Have you never heard of Pyromania?
I also know a kid with Aspergers, and one thing he loved was fire. He could sit there and watch it for hours. It was the same sort of fascination some children have with cars or trains etc.
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post 03/01/2013, 08:28 PM
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The things I would do if to these morons if I caught them.

Im lucky I dont like in a high risk area now but I have and had a couple of close calls. Scared the living sh*t outta me.
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post 03/01/2013, 08:29 PM
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sanity is over-rated
words which would be bleeped out on eb...

honestly there is no logic or acceptable reasons behind it...

it is going to be nasty tomorrow and having people i care about living in the hills it sh*ts me to tears people do this!
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post 03/01/2013, 08:35 PM
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DH was in the CFA with a firebug. He'd lost his job and marriage, so kept lighting fires so he'd get called out to fill the emptyness in the rest of his life. He killed himself when he was found out.

I also knew a firebug kid who just had this fascination with setting things alight. He had learning difficulties and was just fixated on fire in the same way my ASD boy is fixated on Dr Who.
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post 03/01/2013, 08:36 PM
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QUOTE (~sydblue~ @ 03/01/2013, 08:56 PM) *
Have you never heard of Pyromania?
I also know a kid with Aspergers, and one thing he loved was fire. He could sit there and watch it for hours. It was the same sort of fascination some children have with cars or trains etc.


Yes I've heard of Pyromania - but I thought it was just a fascination with lighting the actual fires.

Im wondering if people who light bush fires are trying to kill people and put there lives in danger or if its just the thrill of lighting it in the first place with no thought towards the consequences. Not that I can imagine not realizing the consequences?! but yeah...

Id imagine that being so hot tomorrow for our region that if they already tried to have a go today then they'd probably try tomorrow too??? - That worries me.

ETA; Interesting info from erindiv's link;

'contrary to popular perception, arsonists who are compulsive offenders, including those with the condition of pyromania, constitute a small and reasonably rare group, and these people are not responsible for the majority of deliberately lit fires.'

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post 03/01/2013, 08:37 PM
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QUOTE (erindiv @ 03/01/2013, 08:54 PM) *
I can't even begin to imagine what is going on in their heads.

My dad always tells me about when he was young and the young firefighters (he never was one) used to sometimes light one so they could get the 'thrill' of saving everyone.

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from https://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=ca...ZtTqyfQRvaKgHTw

Heaps more interesting reading there about the reasons, types, etc.


Thats really interesting - off to read the link
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