[brown-eyed girl]

What do you consider the best rear/parent facing pram?

I'm expecting #3 but I really haven't tuned in too much to the pram world! I currently have an old mountain buggy that I keep at home for walking locally. I'm just looking for something to keep in the car for errands. I'll mainly put the toddler in the pram and have new bub in a carrier BUT I want toddler to be facing me if I choose

I've looked at (mostly online) baby jogger city select, strider compact, bugaboo cameleon, and mamas and papas sola.

I'd love any suggestions/reviews/feedback on any of these and on any other prams, especially less expensive ones!

Most of that list don't seem to be available second hand except cameleon... is it worth getting it second hand or do they not last that well?

Also any recommendations of places to buy, locally or O/S.

Thanks!

[WinterIsComing]

My neighbour has second hand cameleon and it looks like new. Definitely there are heaps of great condition seconds out there. We bought ours brand new and I cannot imagine a better pram. It's just amazing, light, comfy for bub, washable, stylish....

[brown-eyed girl]

That's good to hear, thanks. There's lots of cameleon's second hand!

[futureself]

You're looking at very big, bulky prams if you want to keep it in the car for errands!
To have an errand stroller for a toddler I'd get either a Bugaboo bee - plenty of them second hand too - or the new Quinny Zapp xtra. They both rear face but are lighter and more compact than the cameleon, strider, city select etc

[brown-eyed girl]

I was originally hoping to go for compact futureself, but I didn't think either of those would be suitable? I heard the bee was too small for a 2yo? And the zapp extra only does a very reclined rear-face for little babies? But keen to hear otherwise!!

[ozbilby]

The baby jogger Versa is rear facing and has a decent weight limit, it also has a high back.

[kimbalea]

I love my sola, I think it's great value for the price. Ive been using it for about 15 months now. I would highly recommend it.
The only negative is the clear plastic panel on the hood lets light / sun in, but I usually cover that with a wrap or toweling nappy when it causes issues

[dae-gu]

Bee+ , is the newer Bee. Has bigger seat and so better for toddlers. Will also take a buggy board, pushes like a dream, small fold...takes capsule, perfect car pram!
http://blog.babygizmo.com/2010/07/spotligh...-bee-plus-2010/

[cas8cas]

I have the steelcraft acclaim I like that I can just swap the handle over if I need to instead of having to pull the pram apart to swap postions

[minidiamond]

valco rebel