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post 15/11/2012, 09:04 AM
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This morning i took my boys to school as normal to have DS1's teacher pull me aside and ask if DS1 had mentioned that he had been in trouble yesterday... i said that he hadn't but in truth i hadn't really been with him very much as i worked late last night.

Apparently yesterday afternoon another boy in the class was annoying DS1 and DS1 lost it and headbutted him in the face. To the point that he almost broke the other boys nose sad.gif

So he has a time out at school today, and is lucky that he didn't actually break the boys nose otherwise not only would he have been suspended but it would have also been a mandatory police report sad.gif

how do i deal with it? apparently he is self harming again but smacking his head against tables etc which he hasn't done for a few years.

He does have an appt in 2 weeks for ASD and anxiety disorder testing... and we know he has a learning delay but we are waiting for further testing from a speechie but i am at a loss on what i am supposed to do now... i am going to try and speak to him tonight about what happened and what caused him to lose control but knowing him i would get more response from the wall....
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post 15/11/2012, 09:12 AM
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my DS is 8 (grade 2) and has severe language delay and is getting tested for anxiety problems, the teacher and i are finding his doing alot of things out of character for him lately as he has alot of trouble socially. We have been sitting him down and talking to him and the school is guiding him into better ways in dealing with his anger/feelings its been a long road and he does have bad days and some good days but it is defiently worth chatting to your DS then the teacher to see if there are ways to help him out at school. Ill be happy once DS stops crying and lashing out at the drop of a hat! His getting teased which doesnt help his outbursts.
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post 15/11/2012, 09:17 AM
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post 15/11/2012, 09:21 AM
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QUOTE (Carmen02 @ 15/11/2012, 09:42 AM) *
my DS is 8 (grade 2) and has severe language delay and is getting tested for anxiety problems, the teacher and i are finding his doing alot of things out of character for him lately as he has alot of trouble socially. We have been sitting him down and talking to him and the school is guiding him into better ways in dealing with his anger/feelings its been a long road and he does have bad days and some good days but it is defiently worth chatting to your DS then the teacher to see if there are ways to help him out at school. Ill be happy once DS stops crying and lashing out at the drop of a hat! His getting teased which doesnt help his outbursts.


my boy sounds very much the same as your boy... same age as well... DS1's speech is actually good but he has learning delays related around language... he also bursts in to tears at anything and everything...

his teacher has been amazing this year at helping him deal with some of his emotions but when he is one kid in a class of kids with a lot of problems then there is only so much she can do... When DS1 lashes out its generally verbal which has gotten him in to a lot of trouble before but this is the first time that he has been so physical about it.
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post 15/11/2012, 10:19 AM
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is it only a dream that there'll be no more turning away?
What happened to the annoying little sod who was bullying him for a reaction? Has there been any sort of support for your son to deal with these sort of kids? Has there been any sort of education for students in non-bullying and looking out for classmates?

For a kid to be able to torment a vulnerable student to the point where he loses it is just not good enough. The fact that he's self harming would lead me to believe this was not an isolated incident, but a "last straw" one.
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post 15/11/2012, 10:26 AM
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What happened to the annoying little sod who was bullying him for a reaction? Has there been any sort of support for your son to deal with these sort of kids? Has there been any sort of education for students in non-bullying and looking out for classmates?

For a kid to be able to torment a vulnerable student to the point where he loses it is just not good enough. The fact that he's self harming would lead me to believe this was not an isolated incident, but a "last straw" one.


The class is a complex one with a teacher streched to her limits... At least half the class has some form of special need with most being undiagnosed or not able to have an aid.

Ds1 said some kids where hurting him a few weeks ago but this boy was not one of them, I suspect bullying and teasing is not uncommon in this class.
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post 15/11/2012, 10:34 AM
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Apparently yesterday afternoon another boy in the class was annoying DS1 and DS1 lost it and headbutted him in the face. To the point that he almost broke the other boys nose sad.gif


kadoodle - I don't think anyone is accusing anyone else of bullying here are they? Annoying could be anything to a child with SD. Another child simply repeatedly dropping a pencil could be considered annoying, or continued whispering to the SD child. Neither I would class as bullying though. It may very well be that the other child provoked the child that lashed out, but this has not been indicated here.

-*meh*- I hope your upcoming appointments provide you some answers original.gif




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post 15/11/2012, 10:43 AM
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Is this the same child that his after school care providers where wondering if he had been tested for diabetes?

Only reason I ask is because a lot of my mood swings from earlier this year have been put down to my blood sugar levels being all out of whack. (Waiting on a diabetes diagnoses, hopefully results tomorrow.)

Sorry if I have the wrong person
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Is this the same child that his after school care providers where wondering if he had been tested for diabetes?

Only reason I ask is because a lot of my mood swings from earlier this year have been put down to my blood sugar levels being all out of whack. (Waiting on a diabetes diagnoses, hopefully results tomorrow.)

Sorry if I have the wrong person

yes same child... I am going to hopefully organise that appt this weekend
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post 16/11/2012, 11:02 AM
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ex picked them up last night as normal and he actually managed to get DS1 to speak to him (which is a rarity in itself!)...

apparently the boy had been picking on both DS1 and DS2 for over a week at recess and lunch by attempting to kick both of them in the groin... my boys had just been going away from him during break times but both are very forgiving children and would let him play with them again each time until it happened again and again... however they weren't reporting it to a teacher.

it appears the the class incident which was the other child continuing to take the lego pieces DS1 was trying to construct with was the straw that broke the camels back so to speak. We have spoken to DS1 very sternly about the need to not only walk away but to speak up and get help from teachers/counsellor/chaplin at school and about not retaliating.

I spoke to his teacher again this morning to let her know DS1's full story and it appears that DS1 did tell the counsellor who he had time out with what had happened as the counsellor wasn't going to give him a full time out but his teacher said that DS1 does actually need the punishment as DS1 doesn't have "grey areas" things are either right or wrong.

So fingers crossed that it was a once off... we have an appt with the psyc and testings in 2 weeks and i will be bringing this type of stuff up as it is what happens when DS1 feels backed in to the cnr.
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