Jump to content

Removing plaque from dog teeth


  • Please log in to reply
18 replies to this topic

#1 FauxPas

Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:51 PM


Hi everyone

Since October last year we are the owners of a Japanese Spitz.  She was about 18 months when she joined us - so nearly 2 years old now.

I took her to the dog groomer this morning and he noticed that she has brown plaque build up on her canine teeth and some gum redness.  He recommended cleaning it with a baby toothbrush and some bi carb soda and strawberries (as they are acidic).

I would love some input on this?

Also - I previously owned a much larger dog and never had any issues at all.  She is on a Eukanuba diet, she has a kong, we give her bones every couple of weeks or so (so far the smoked ones and recently lamb shank ones (cooked)).

Do I need to take her to the vet to have existing plaque removed?


We love our dog and really want to do the right thing.  I never realised you had to brush their teeth but obviously will from now on!


#2 *LucyE*

Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:58 PM

Ummm, we've never brushed our dogs' teeth and they've been fine.

We do the premium dry food and bones diet (always raw).

Our dog goes to the groomer fortnightly and our vet gives her a check over each time too (groomer works out of the vet practice). Weve never had been told to brush her teeth. Clean her ears, yes. Brush teeth, no.

#3 Guest_Nyz31_*

Posted 10 May 2012 - 07:59 PM

We were told to get out dogs teeth cleaned for the same reason but we just make a conscious effort to give her more bones and the next time we took her to the vet, they said her teeth were perfect.... ??? I heard that that's why doggie dentists are a new thing, coz back in the olden days, the family dog got all the leftover bones and this is what kept their teeth clean.

#4 FauxPas

Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:03 PM



ok  - thanks very much.

I will get more raw bones for her.  I have given her less than we gave our large dog because of risk of choking etc but happy to increase the intake.

I will clean her teeth a few times but if the plaque does not come off will take her to the vet.

#5 Unatheowl

Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

Hi,

If your dog has visible tarter it would be best to take her to the vet and have a dental done.  That way, they can evaluate her teeth properly under a general anesthetic and see if any require removal.  After they have been cleaned properly, then you can start to maintain her teeth.

The gold standard is brushing and you can get lots of tooth brushes and doggie toothpaste.  If your dog will not allow this, then you can get dental diets which clean the teeth as they chew.  There are a few brands that do this.  You can also get additives to the water which help prevent the plaque matrix from forming (as it inevitably will).

Different dogs will have different teeth ( like people really) and some will have great teeth all their lives without effort, others will be rotting out of their heads by the time they are 3.  It depends on lots of different things, both environmental and genetic suchu as anatomy of the dental arcade.  If you see your dog does not have great teeth, a visit to the vet is a great first step.

#6 Bedge

Posted 10 May 2012 - 08:43 PM

I would agree with some comments above, about offering more raw bones. Maybe a few a week, depending on what size, type, and how long they last.

My older dog Jimbo, had surgery to remove a hernia so we opted to have his teeth cleaned while he was under.

You can def try brushing her teeth! Some are fine with it if you start really softly. Although, think it might be a good idea to speak to your vet to get the 'good' products and advise.

It's great you are paying attention to her teeth, people often don't realise how it can lead to major kidney problems!

Edited by Bedge, 10 May 2012 - 08:44 PM.


#7 **MrsPotatoHead**

Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:32 PM

With my dog I give him lots of the rawhide bone/chews and they keep his teeth super clean.  My sister noticed how clean his teeth were and said her dogs just didn't seem to stay clean even feeding him chicken necks so she started giving him the rawhide bones and his teeth are coming up nicely.  My parents used the smoked bones on their Doberman and it also made a visible difference to his teeth.

#8 la di dah

Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:38 PM

With good bones and charcoal chews our dogs died of old age before their teeth went more than faintly yellow by the end. But we did brush occasionally. And they weren't mash-face breeds, who often have more problems.

My cousin brushed his Retriever's teeth religiously but his dog threw up all the time, which is bad for teeth.

Tiny dogs often have bad teeth. They're all jammed together. My friend has a Maltese that is repulsive. (Teeth-wise, okay dog).

#9 ubermum

Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:40 PM

All my dogs have had gorgeous teeth right up until the day they died. I bought them a marrowbone from the butcher every week. Raw bones are the best dental care you can give your dog.

#10 lizb87

Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:49 PM

brown stuff on teeth is tartar - it wont brush off. plaque does brush off (but is colourless/not visible). plaque becomes early tartar after 2-3 days unless it is physically removed (i.e. via brushing) and tartar realy cannot be easily removed.
bones may break off tartar, but they also might fracture teeth, get stuck in the gut requiring surgery and cause pancreatits and constipation. the marrow of bones is 95% or so pure fat which is why dogs love them. my dogs never get bones as we see too many problems from them. raw is less problematic but still not great
hills t/d and other brands of bis uits have been designed with a cellulose matrix in them to scrub the teeth and in some dogs are successful. some dogs wont eat them and others inhale their biccies so they dont work always
brushing teeth every second day is ideal, but a big commitment
if your dog has brown stuff (tartar) on he teeth then a scale nd polish under GA may be required - you need a vet's opinion.

#11 FauxPas

Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:34 PM

yikes!  ohmy.gif     I just rang the vet and they charge $395 for a scale and clean.  Not something we can afford right now while I am on maternity leave.

I will try other vets and in the meantime - bones and tooth brushing daily it is.  I will also ask our lovely local pet shop guy about other products we can try (e.g. doggy toothpaste)

Edited by FauxPas, 11 May 2012 - 01:45 PM.


#12 ubermum

Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:40 PM

For your size dog, I would recommend raw chicken necks. I worked for a Samoyed breeder and that is what we gave her dogs and it is also what I give to my cats. Don't feed cooked bones, they splinter. I feed my cats chicken necks at least once per week and their teeth and breath are lovely.

#13 Feral*Spikey*

Posted 11 May 2012 - 07:11 PM

You could try flicking it off with your finger nail. Sometimes it will flake off with a teeny bit of pressure. And yes, I've done this for dogs and cat. (still have 10 fingers).

Oh, our doggies love denta bones, which are chewy and full of teeth cleaning stuff.

#14 spitzmum

Posted 17 May 2012 - 12:49 PM

FauxPas - I'm a Jap Spitz owner too and tartar build up is one of the few downsides of the breed.

I use Proden Plaque Off - one scoop every day in her food and it makes the tartar soft enough to scrape off with a fingernail after 6 weeks.  You keep feeding it and her teeth should stay tartar free.

http://www.plaqueoff.com/for-animals/product/

It's hard to get in Australia - but I ordered some off ebay in the UK, arrived here quickly.  One medium sized container should last at least 18 months.

#15 FauxPas

Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:00 PM

QUOTE (spitzmum @ 17/05/2012, 12:49 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
FauxPas - I'm a Jap Spitz owner too and tartar build up is one of the few downsides of the breed.

I use Proden Plaque Off - one scoop every day in her food and it makes the tartar soft enough to scrape off with a fingernail after 6 weeks.  You keep feeding it and her teeth should stay tartar free.

http://www.plaqueoff.com/for-animals/product/

It's hard to get in Australia - but I ordered some off ebay in the UK, arrived here quickly.  One medium sized container should last at least 18 months.


oh my! thank you!!!

I have been brushing her teeth daily (bi carb one day and doggy tooth paste next) and have given her bones almost daily (but easing off now to every second day).  The build up seem to be more pale but still there.  Her gums bleed less now that she has regular brushing.  Your recommendation will definitely be implemented asap!

I feel so neglectful actually - we try to take such good care of her and I can't believe I didn't notice the build up earlier and simply did not know about small breed teeth issues (our Mal just used to get bones).



#16 spitzmum

Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:07 PM

Don't feel bad!  Many of the top Jap Spitz champions and grand champions have a little tartar build up - the breed can be a little finicky with a general anaesthetic, so many breeders don't put their dogs under for the scale & clean at the vet

#17 FauxPas

Posted 17 May 2012 - 01:09 PM



Thanks again (so much) - have just ordered a medium sized box from the UK on eBay.

original.gif

#18 runnybabbit

Posted 17 May 2012 - 07:25 PM

Be careful with brushing the teeth of a dog that has existing dental disease. If your dog has gingivitis (inflammation of the gums) or loose teeth, then this will hurt and might cause an aversion to toothbrushing altogether.

#19 JRA

Posted 20 May 2012 - 10:45 PM

Shadow has cow's hooves. Great for her teeth. Absolutely gorgeous white things




1 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 1 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

How to talk about your pregnancy at work

The workplace isn't always a friendly place for pregnant women. Yet working women inclined to conceal a pregnancy from prying coworkers may be better off opening up and carrying on, according to a new study.

Tell us your story to win!

To celebrate Mother's Day this year we are giving you the chance to win one of five great prizes simply by telling us your story.

Where to get help to help your baby sleep

There is so much pressure about having a baby who sleeps 'all night' , it's no wonder you worry about your baby if she wakes in the night.

Vintage baby names having a comeback

What makes some names have comebacks while others silently fade into oblivion? A few factors come into play.

When your partner doesn't want you to breastfeed

Dads can have many reasons for not wanting their partners to breastfeed their baby, but both parents should learn more about it before making a final decision.

Model mum Sarah Stage shares post-baby selfie

Most new mums would recoil at the thought, but Sarah Stage has shared a post-pregnancy selfie just four days after giving birth.

I'll admit it: I have last child parenting fatigue

If you're a new mum and feeling ignored by the older mum/the old hand/the has-been, please know, it's not you, it's me. Blame the last child parenting fatigue.

Exhaustion is not the same as tiredness

Having a new baby isn't tiring - it can be downright exhausting.

Five posterior babies, four home births

I was on a high. I'd done it all by myself with no help from anyone.

Mum's list of birthday gift demands goes viral

We're big fans of kids' birthday parties - but this is one bash we're glad we didn't get an invite to.

Kate Middleton to receive 'loyalty discount' for second birth

Everybody loves a bargain - including the Duchess of Cambridge.

Fish & chip shop owner's sad note goes viral

A lengthy note put on the window of a fish & chip shop has gone viral due to the writer's serious doubts about the romance of travel.

Pregnant women need good nutrition advice, not judgment

Pregnant women are under pressure to do all the "right things" to have a healthy child. It results in women feeling judged about their decisions.

When your child wants you to have another baby

Giving your child a sibling when you don't want to have another baby can be a complex issue.

William Tyrrell's mum speaks out: 'We hope he is still alive'

The mother of missing toddler William Tyrrell says she has a vision that somebody "picked him up and moved him on ... that's the only way ... to explain for him not to be there".

Family comes first for 23-year-old Tommy Connolly

Most 23-year-old blokes spend their hard earned cash on fun times with mates or romantic dinners with their girlfriend, but not Tommy Connolly.

Newborn all-girl quintuplets 'doing great'

The first all-female quintuplets born in the United States were delivered last week, at 28 weeks and two days.

Model mum's big baby silences critics

He may be less than a week old, but baby James Hunter has already helped his model mum silence her critics.

Jammy, Hula Hoop, Rage: Reddit reveals most unusual baby names

A recent Reddit thread has revealed some of the more creative names in the world.

Woman awakens from coma, learns she gave birth

A US woman awakened this week from a four-month-long coma that doctors had feared would be permanent and learned that she had given birth to a baby boy, according to her family.

'Give us a break': mum sent shocking letter over Facebook baby pics

Posting a lot of baby photos doesn't make you a bad person. It may make your Facebook feed a little irritating, but it doesn't make you a bad person.

In defense of the dads who do so much

It's time to shift the focus off what dads aren’t doing and shine it on what they are.

The modern cloth nappies too cute to cover up

If you're only just joining the modern cloth nappy movement, or would like to spruce up your collection, we have to introduce you to Designer Bums.

How breastfeeding can affect your libido

When you’ve just had a baby, having sex isn’t usually top priority. In fact, for a lot of women it rates about as appealing as changing another dirty nappy.

Should pregnant women be allowed to use 'parent and child' car parking spots?

Is it acceptable to use these car parking spots when pregnant? How many of us would admit to doing it?

Healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man died

Fertility doctors have described their "most extraordinary case" - creating a healthy baby from sperm taken 48 hours after a man had died.

Sign up to our 30 days of #PlayIQ challenge

Sign up to receive 30 amazing tips and ideas for play with baby during the month of April and submit a picture or tip on our social wall for a chance to win an amazing Fisher-Price prize pack.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Last chance to win a year's supply of toys

You have less than a week left to win your child one of five Fisher-Price toy packs valued at over $600 each - hurry, enter today!

Childcare is a big problem, but there's more to it

Let’s keep talking about these issues and not allow them to be put into a neat little box that’s labelled ‘Fix childcare and everything is solved’.

Pink's awesome response to body-shaming trolls

When trolls felt the need to comment on 35-year-old singer-songwriter Pink's weight, her answer was an awesome ode to body love.

Fertility clinic offers egg donors $5000

A national chain of fertility clinics is offering egg donors a $5000 payment to cover their expenses, a first for Australia which is raising concerns the money could act as an inducement.

Baby boy abandoned in India amid fresh surrogacy concerns

Australian officials could do nothing to stop an Australian couple from abandoning their baby son, born through surrogacy in India, after they decided they did not want to bring him to Australia.

Herd immunity and community responsibility: how free-riders can make kids suffer

Individual choice works for haircuts and handbags, but not for preventing infectious diseases that kill kids.

Photographer captures 'unexpected beauty' of birth

If there is one thing Leilani Rogers knows about childbirth, it is that no two deliveries are ever the same.

Expectations vs the reality of making a toddler's clothes

Note to self: less sewing, more life. Not the party dress, but the party. The toddler, as usual, has it all figured out.

Mum meets 'dead' daughter 49 years after birth

In 1965, Zella Jackson-Price was told her premature baby girl had died shortly after birth.

How pregnancy probiotics can help you and your baby

New research suggests that taking specific pregnancy probiotics could be the answer to a range of common pregnancy side effects.

53 creative pregnancy announcements

Announcing that you're expecting can be a time to express your creativity, sense of humour and imagination. Check out how other parents and parents-to-be have broken the news to friends and family.

IKEA hacks for the nursery and kids' rooms

Are you one of those that know the whole IKEA catalogue by heart? Love their stuff but want to personalise it? Here's some inspiration to help you realise the potential of IKEA furniture and fittings.

36 baby names inspired by food and drinks

A French court may have ruled out Nutella as a baby name, but that doesn't have to stop you from taking inspiration from the supermarket (or bottle shop). See what parents in the US have chosen for their delicious little ones.

 

ENTER NOW!

Win a year's worth of toys

Last week to submit a picture of your baby at play for your chance to win. Visit the Play Wall to view our recent entries.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.