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#1 ~A2~

Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:08 PM

Hi all

New thread time

Previous thread

Regards

Ali


#2 Mamabug

Posted 07 May 2012 - 12:20 PM

Oooohhh....it really IS all about me...... tongue.gif

Oh, okay, you can come join me if you must want to...!

But while we're talking about me:

Off to the dr today. Believe it or not, Master Bug has a.....cough. Yep, I know, you have been listening to me whinge about his coughs for, oh, at least two years! Well it is back. And after last year's cough landing him in hospital and on asthma medication for a couple of months, I am off to the dr to express my overriding paranoia!

Poor Lady Bug has red watery eyes, nose, mouth...she has toothbuds bulging and is a snotty, miserable scrap of humanity. Just needs lots of cuddles.

And we have another inspection tomorrow. I think the agent got twitchy when I mentioned puling the house off the market! We have had much action in the past few days....

#3 MarsBarSlice

Posted 07 May 2012 - 01:54 PM

I think I can safely claim silver.

Mamabug - it's just horrid when the little ones are sick

AFM:  DS1 walks into preschool, we do the preschool stuff and then say goodbye and I walk out. No mess, no fuss, how good is that.  I'm so proud of him.

Hello to everyone, hope you are having a swell Monday


#4 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 07 May 2012 - 02:51 PM

Just swanning in to grab a podium finish original.gif

MBS - well done DS (and mummy I'm assuming!)

Mamabug - is there an alternative real estate to list with? I hope master bug is better fast and lady bug too sad.gif

I talked to tweddle today (who named them?) and we agreed I probably don't need sleep school any more but she said they don't recommend CC any more (great - 35 years of Cc and I call the year it changes!) but she did say of he went to sleep in a couple of minutes that was great - yeah right, you won't convince me to go back in there in under 5 minutes after this weekend. She also told me not to feed him overnight. I'm very unlikely to follow that plan though...

Apart from that the mice are back - brilliant. The exterminator came today and said the old bait was still there so I guess they're not going to die soon either. Ugh!

Another attempt at day care tomorrow original.gif

Just swanning in to grab a podium finish original.gif

MBS - well done DS (and mummy I'm assuming!)

Mamabug - is there an alternative real estate to list with? I hope master bug is better fast and lady bug too sad.gif

I talked to tweddle today (who named them?) and we agreed I probably don't need sleep school any more but she said they don't recommend CC any more (great - 35 years of Cc and I call the year it changes!) but she did say of he went to sleep in a couple of minutes that was great - yeah right, you won't convince me to go back in there in under 5 minutes after this weekend. She also told me not to feed him overnight. I'm very unlikely to follow that plan though...

Apart from that the mice are back - brilliant. The exterminator came today and said the old bait was still there so I guess they're not going to die soon either. Ugh!

Another attempt at day care tomorrow original.gif

#5 noisytractor

Posted 07 May 2012 - 09:08 PM

Hey Girls,

Just plodding along at the moment, just basically putting one foot in front of the other.

Elliot is still only sleeping for half hour stints during the day, the CHN now kindly tells me that its probably just him and thats all he needs. So the day sleeps aren't getting longer, does that mean I'm destined to have a baby that never sleeps through the night? (according to previous wisdom of the CHN, the longer the day time sleeps, the longer the night time sleeps.) Still waiting on Care Cottage to ring me for an appointment, they come to the house. If they don't work, its onto tresillian.

I went and worked in the family bakery on Sunday and it felt really good. Elliot was fine, he didn't even want boobie. He went from 5am until 2.30 and then I only fed him because I thought there might have been an explosion waiting to happen in the vicinity of my bra. He's now down to 3 BFs a day and I no longer feed him at night.

In other news, we're getting a new puppy. A little black labrador. Cadbury will have a playmate. I need names, so put your thinking caps on. I'm thinking Licorice? Vegemite? Expresso, just to keep with the food theme.

We also got 4 chickens on the weekend who are currently residing under a light in my small lounge room. The shouse is finally getting some animals.

#6 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 08 May 2012 - 09:58 AM

Noisy - Are you seeing anyone or taking anything? My life became totally different when my meds kicked in - seriously so different that I would happily be a spokeswoman for depression australia or any other place because they changed my life. I like licorice for the doggy, in my opinion the combination of licorice and chocolate is near perfect biggrin.gif

I was just coming in to say Teddy went through to 5am FIVE A M !!! Then fed (against advice) and slet until 7.30am when he woke himself up and talked happily to his bear until I went to get him. Bliss.

Fingers crossed this continues...

Day care on the other hand...well, he's at home put it that way laughing2.gif

Love to all.

#7 Fillyjonk

Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:01 AM

Just about to run out to playgroup so I can't write much. I just wanted to say to NoisyTractor -Owen was a horrific day sleeper. We would fight for up to an hour and a half to get 45 mins max out of him.

We went to sleep school run by the MCH clinic twice but it did not help at all. By the end of it, it was affecting his night sleep as well, which was just not on! So one day I just said bugger it, and dropped him down to one day sleep. It was like magic - he would sleep two+ hours after lunch and be a happy well-adjusted little boy for the rest of the day. Then he would sleep pretty well at night.

I honestly can't remember when I had this epiphany, but it was some time after 8 months (which wsa the last time we went to sleep school) and before 1 year. I still hate the idea of dropping day sleeps - it is like abandoning all hope of a break . But it made life so much easier for us that it was definitely worth it.

And now I have Elise who is a fantastic day sleeper and still needs two 1-2 hour sleeps twice a day. Night time is up and down, but she suffers a lot with teething which Owen never did. I guess there is no such thing as the perfect baby!

In good news. I am feeling almost human today!!

In bad news. Sucks to be a Canberran with last night's budget.

#8 dizzy-anne

Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:24 AM

Noisy I don't subscribe to the long day sleeps = long night sleeps.  The longer Lara sleeps in the day the more she parties at night so definitely doesn't work here!

#9 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:28 AM

Well I wont say it sucks to be a Canberran all the time, although the temptation is there wink.gif It sucks to be us too - although this is pretty true of all labour budgets as despite both being left leaning hippies, we have managed to accumulate too much individual wealth (and trust me, we're not wealthy by anyones measure) and thus never get any tax breaks. According to the on line calculator we will be $3 better off per year "actual saving may differ" laughing2.gif

Anyway, great you're feeling better Goosey - how far along are you now? It can't be time for the NT scan yet surely?

I have started a thread under day care about Teddy's attempts at day care. It has no responses, it seems the lovely wisdom of EB have no idea how to help him either. I'm taking him up after his nap today to see if he's any better then (seems unlikely I'm afraid).

Noisy - I can tell you exactly what they do at sleep school if you like, then like me you can go "but that doesnt make any sense..." and do your own thing. I also dropped DS1 to one day sleep around 10 months - he was a much happier lad for that but I think he went to bed a bit earlier for another 6 months or so. Probably until day light savings started actually!

I am supposed to be working again. I am not as I have a child at home again. ARGH! In better news I think I have found someone to supervise my PhD. You know, because the other 15 bits of paper with my name on them still aren't enough. I wonder if the Uni will still want me to study after I have a doctorate? Probably ask me to get another one...

Happy days everyone original.gif

#10 readyandraring

Posted 09 May 2012 - 10:57 AM

I am still alive and won't apologise for not posting as I am sure you all understand. Sadie is now 3 weeks and in the last couple of days has been a bit unsettled when napping during the afternoon and early night. She just wants to be held and won't sleep in her bassinet, she does not scream but it makes this time of day a little difficult.

But the part I cannot complain about is that she will be asleep by 9 or 10 and sleep through until about 1:30 or 2am and then again until 6:30 or 7! We even had a 11:30 until 5:30am the other night.

Last night I popped her into her bassinet and tried patting and stroking her forehead and nose and she was asleep within minutes, maybe a fluke but I will take it. All trial and error at the moment and today she seems very settled.

A quick question from a hopeful Mum, she has started doing little smiles and her eyes just light up. Now I know that she won't socially smile until 6 months or so (from what I have read) but it is a start? I am going to take those looks of love and store them all up anyway!  wub.gif

So nice to be back in here with you all!

#11 Mamabug

Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:33 AM

ready - the health nurse reckons LadyBug was smiling around then. She was stunned - actually called the other person who was with her (a Tresillian en who was on her final placement for her rn degree) over to look.

They agreed it was definitely a smile, casue she would only do it when she was looking at me... wub.gif wub.gif  

DH and I wanted to believe it before they saw, but were prepared to accept it was wind/reflex. But the nurses said, so its true!!!!

Dino - tell us your topic, go on...dare you!!!! I may even read it one day....A couple of old uni friends and I (and yes, sadly, we are "old" now) often throw ideas around, concluding that most of the ones we come up with are "interesteing, but not interested". SO we are waiting for someone else to do the work so we can read along nodding!!!

I had a dream a while back about a topic which basically revolved around the impact that electronic global communications has had on isolated/nomadic people in Mongolia..... it was a very interesting dream. I have a few pages of notes I took down when I woke up!!!

#12 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:45 AM

Mongolia...nope, I doubt mongolia will feature heavily although you never know with a PhD. My starting topic is something like "the impact of cultural rights protections in human rights instruments on conflicting human rights..." - basicly I have a theory that cultural human rights protections are largely unneccesary as the actual culture (language, art, dance etc) are protected elsewhere, the instrument itself is mostly racist and the effect is to further degenirate certain cultures and people (and women especially) under the guise of "culture". So, interested?

Ready - Teddy was smiling by 6 weeks. No one believed me until they saw it and everyone agreed it was smiling. You will know smiling, it is quite different to wind I assure you wink.gif

Well I've just dropped Teddy off at day care in a flurry of tears and told them to try and last 2 hours. We shall see...

So I best get on with cleaning this tip while he's not here and wanting me all the time!

#13 Mamabug

Posted 09 May 2012 - 11:53 AM

I'm sure Mongolian culture would be an interesting case study for your topic....

Hope Teddy has fun at school this afternoon, but I won't hold you from your cleaning...I myself have to get swimming stuff together, hang out a load of clothes,  empty the dishwaser and pulp a few dozen persimmons while keeping Littlest Bug entertained and having a Lady Bug cling-on along for the ride.

She has suddenly just become annimated and vocal this week and is rather loud and upset when "abandoned"!! Doesn't help that she is snurgly, has a cough and those toothbuds are still not producing teeth.

#14 MrsCee

Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:14 AM

QUOTE (noisytractor @ 07/05/2012, 10:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
So the day sleeps aren't getting longer, does that mean I'm destined to have a baby that never sleeps through the night? (according to previous wisdom of the CHN, the longer the day time sleeps, the longer the night time sleeps.)


Have to disagree Noisy. I found with DS1 that the more he slept durng the day - the less he slept at night.

So from 8 weeks on I limited his day sleeps to 1hr mid morning, 2 hrs midday and 1 hr afternoon. I would wake him after his sleeps to feed him.

I fed him at 6pm, put him to bed at 7pm, woke him at 10pm for a feed and then he slept thru till 7am.

He was a breatfed baby too. He was also a small baby (2.9kg) but grew like a weed on our little schedule.

As he's gotten bigger we have slowly dropped his day sleeps and at 14 months he has 1 day sleep from 12-2pm each day - and now sleeps from 7pm till 7am every single night, no feeds and is a very healthy robust boy original.gif

I do not subscribe to the theory of "sleep promotes sleep". It didn't work for my boy.

I followed the schedule found in Gina Ford's "The new contented little baby book". I know these books can be contensious, but it worked for me when I was at my wits end.

Also just wanted to say hope you are feeling a bit better and hopefully your meds are statring too kick in soon. I've been there too (depression and anxiety) and like others I found meds were my saviour.

Dino - best of luck with Teddy and DC

Hope everyone else is well - all is pretty good here, still trying to get breasfeeding right, but it seems to be coming good.







#15 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:42 PM

Teddy lasted 4 hours today AND was happy when I picked him up after a nap! I'm going to leave him a bit longer next week then go for a proper (ahem, 7 hours) day work the week after.

Noisy - I forgot to say my first was always a terrible day sleeper but slept 11-13 hours a night from 5 months to present with a few disruptions (travel, nightmares etc).

Oh, speaking of DS1 - he tried the kinder room Tuesday, loved it - couldn't wait to get back there Wednesday. Today he tells me he doesn't want to go to the kinder room because they were mean to him. sad.gif he's not even 3!!

Oh and in other way too personal questions, has anyone had their period completely change/go missing? I had a very slight bleed around 4 months PP then another very slight bleed around 8 months PP. Nothing since, not sure if I'm going on to 4 monthly periods (which frankly, would be awesome at this point!) or if I officially don't have a period back yet? I'm only asking because we're still using the rhythm method of contraception (well, if we have sex again - which we haven't, so I'm not pregnant!)

Thanks o wise ones biggrin.gif

#16 Mamabug

Posted 10 May 2012 - 03:54 PM

Yay Teddy!!

Um, as for contraeption, we're using laughter. He suggests it; I laugh.... wwhistle.gif wwhistle.gif  

I would say you haven't got your biological groove back yet. Or you should go looking for the three wise men and the shining star...



#17 Mamabug

Posted 11 May 2012 - 12:34 PM

We have a signed contract.

#18 Feral Dinosaurus

Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:36 PM

AWESOME!!

ddance.gif ddance.gif ddance.gif

Im'a gonna risk sex if I can talk DH into it (he promised for mothers day!)

TMI? Not after what we've been through together laughing2.gif hhugs.gif

#19 Mamabug

Posted 11 May 2012 - 01:52 PM

QUOTE (Dinosaurus @ 11/05/2012, 01:36 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Im'a gonna risk sex if I can talk DH into it (he promised for mothers day!)

TMI? Not after what we've been through together laughing2.gif hhugs.gif


No such thing as TMI in here, chicky!

#20 ThatsNotMyName

Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:15 PM

AWESOME Mamabug!!! ddance.gif

Noisy I find they're so unpredictable with sleep, what applies to one baby won;t necessarily work for another. And what works for a week or even months may one day just go right out the window. Try out a few things & when one works stick with it till it doesn't work then try something else. They're tricky little critters these babies.

Good work Teddy, that's better!

Jen how are you feeling now?

DF have you found any promising places yet?

Fee waves.gif I have your skylight man coming next week to put one in our back hallway.

Mrs Cee - great work getting the bf on track!

Ready that sounds like lovely smiley faces to me  happy.gif

That's all, sorry for the lack of posting then a fly by. Poor poor effort, just very busy with stuff.

waves.gif

#21 Mamabug

Posted 11 May 2012 - 02:24 PM

QUOTE (ThatsNotMyName @ 11/05/2012, 02:15 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Fee waves.gif I have your skylight man coming next week to put one in our back hallway.


Sounds mildly salacious.....!

#22 noisytractor

Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:45 PM

Mamabug- yay for getting a signed contract. Terrific news.

MrsCee- I only dream about what sleep you limit DS too. I'm lucky to get half hour naps 3 times a day. So one of your sleeps is what Elliot gets for a full day  sad.gif

Dino- Yay Teddy and dare I say yay hubby. Lets hope he keeps his promise. It is mothers day after all.

Ready- If it looks like a smile, feels like a smile and its only for you, then its definitely a smile wub.gif

In other news, Elliot is slowly chewing his arm off. He started sucking it when we put him to sleep and his managed to suck/bite the skin off in 2 places. We've resorted to bandaging his arms to try and get it to heal and stop him sucking them.

#23 Mamabug

Posted 11 May 2012 - 06:48 PM

Oh dear, Noisy! I haven't come across that one to that extreme, so have no insight.

LadyBug was born with blisters on one of her hands from how much she sucked in utero, but she stopped doing that by a couple of weeks.

#24 Shadowess

Posted 11 May 2012 - 09:22 PM

Megan, oooh! a skylight! ours made all the difference! Was very impressed with it... and if I needed one in this house, I'd definitely get him back again.

Mamabug, yay for signing! now, you need to exchange! Did you get the price you wanted?

Jen, I'm not sure I'd be risking anything like that!

Hi everyone else!

Everything chugging along here... nothing to report! Happy Mother's Day everyone!

fee


#25 Mamabug

Posted 12 May 2012 - 10:59 AM

Well, we got our absolute bottom line price. If we factor in the govt grant we got it brought it up to what it was listed as, so we can accept it! Annoys the buggery out of me that we had a few agents tell us what we could get for it, that it was a sure thing, realistically priced etc, etc and then get $30,000 less than the original listing price.

Means we will have to re-jiggle our own grand plans a bit, but it is a burden gone from the mental and financial process. As long as my glass-is-totally-empty husband doesn't now drone on about for eternity.




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