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#1 Mike shore

Posted 02 May 2012 - 05:58 PM

With winter fast approaching I am looking for  heaters instead of using the ducted AC. Power bill was horrendous last winter and will get worse with electricity prices going up. My home is a 2 bedroom unit, Any recommendations?

#2 Daisy Goat

Posted 02 May 2012 - 06:08 PM

I have these installed in the bedrooms of our house. Use very little power and create a nice heat. They won't make a room instantly warm but they keep it warm and are very safe to run

They are also very good to have for people with allergies or asthma as they don't blow any air. Super easy to install. You just need a drill and a powerpoint

http://econo-heat.com/aus/products/eheater...l-panel-heater/

#3 Amanda_R

Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

Gas/electric/wood/hydronic?

What sort of heater do you actually want?

#4 jindy poss

Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:30 PM

The Nobo or similar panel heaters are easy to install and cheap to run, about 15c an hour. I use one in ds room and it's great. It's also on wheels so can be moved anywhere we need.

#5 Oilucy

Posted 05 May 2012 - 12:08 PM

You will probably find gas the most economical if you're in a unit. Rinnai make fantastic portable heaters but it just depends on whether you have gas point there already otherwise expensive to have hooked up.
Check out www.rinnai.com.au We have a 25mJ one which easily heats out 4 bedroom home. You'd probably get away with the smaller one (18mJ) and they often come up on EBAY if you want a bargain as opposed to buying new.
My SIL bought some electric panel heaters that go under the windows - they have 3 of them and their electricity bill was about $1500 despite them apparently being very economical. Plus, they only took the chill out of the air she said rather than actually heating the place (which is a small 2 bedroom granny flat on their property whilst they build the main house).

#6 duck-o-lah

Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:16 PM

Second the above post. We have a Rinnai gas heater and it does our place very well. The living area is open plan and quite big, for a little heater it warms it up very quickly! Cheap to run too.

#7 -al-

Posted 05 May 2012 - 06:33 PM

We have a large gas heater, I love it. It heats the house very quickly and our gas bill was only increased by about $20 a month.

#8 *LucyE*

Posted 05 May 2012 - 09:58 PM

I would avoid a gas heater unless you have it flued outside.

#9 Oilucy

Posted 05 May 2012 - 10:09 PM

You know we actually have no issues with our gas heater despite it not being flued. The windows are closed at night time (we live in Bowral NSW so our temps are too cold to leave windows open) and I crack them open during the day to allow fresh air to flow in. Our house doesnt get a great deal of northerly sun either yet we dont suffer from moisture or mildew issues at all....


#10 Leeloomina

Posted 05 May 2012 - 11:56 PM

QUOTE (jindy poss @ 02/05/2012, 08:30 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The Nobo or similar panel heaters are easy to install and cheap to run, about 15c an hour. I use one in ds room and it's great. It's also on wheels so can be moved anywhere we need.

I second Nobo too.

#11 Indi

Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:32 AM

I wouldn't be using an unflued gas heater.  Our experience with Nobo type heaters was an $1800 quarterly power bill.  When I rang to query the bill the first thing the customer service lady said to me?  "Do you have panels heaters".  Apparently they would get many calls from tearful pensioners who had been told they were cheap to run.

Split systems are generally quite economical, our power bill dropped considerably when we turfed the panel heaters and installed a split system.

#12 Chelara

Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:41 AM

I use an unflued gas heater when we have gas, I have no issues using it but you'd be really risking your health/life by not having windows open. You absolutely must have ventilation to use them. I found this easy in a unit with open plan as the kitchen and bathroom windows were always open.

Edited by Chelara, 07 May 2012 - 10:41 AM.


#13 Amanda_R

Posted 07 May 2012 - 06:03 PM

QUOTE (Oilucy @ 05/05/2012, 10:09 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
You know we actually have no issues with our gas heater despite it not being flued. The windows are closed at night time (we live in Bowral NSW so our temps are too cold to leave windows open) and I crack them open during the day to allow fresh air to flow in. Our house doesnt get a great deal of northerly sun either yet we dont suffer from moisture or mildew issues at all....

As the PP'ers have said, an unflued gas heater isn't really a good idea.  Less for moisture and mildew issues, more for carbon monoxide build up in an unventilated house.

I think unflued gas heaters have actually been banned from sale in Victoria now because of the carbon monoxide issue.  

If you do keep using the unflued heater, then I'd recommend getting a carbon monoxide detector, it works like smoke detectors and will sound an alarm if the build up gets too high.  The last time I checked they are still selling at Bunnings and similar for around $65-70.

#14 Mike shore

Posted 08 May 2012 - 02:44 PM

Thanks guys!!  biggrin.gif

#15 Zeldagirl

Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:45 PM

We have two Nobo heaters, and contrary to thinking they would be cheap to run, we just ended up with pretty expensive power bills...and that was still with me using them more frugally than I would have with a gas ducted heater.

#16 Lilura

Posted 09 May 2012 - 04:56 PM

I have a similar question...

We've just moved to a cold(er) climate than I'm used to, and am thinking we're going to need a heater soon.

Our house has central gas heating, but I've been warned that its quite pricey to run. and I think I'd prefer to perhaps just heat the rooms we are using (ie; lounge, nursery) than the whole house.

Whats the most economical and safe (in terms of needing to heat babies room overnight) heater? (bearing in mind its a rental so I cant go putting holes in walls and attaching gas points etc)

thanks

#17 YodaTheWrinkledOne

Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:29 AM

QUOTE (Lilura @ 09/05/2012, 05:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Whats the most economical and safe (in terms of needing to heat babies room overnight) heater? (bearing in mind its a rental so I cant go putting holes in walls and attaching gas points etc)

We have used a oil column heater (like these ones) for the kids bedroom.  No exposed heating elements, sturdy and since it's only a bedroom, we didn't need anything with massive heat output or a fan.  Just set it to medium to warm up the room 30 minutes before they go to bed and then drop it down to low during the night.  We don't use it specifically to keep the the room at a balmy 22-24 degrees all night, more just to take the chill out of the air in their room. And it's portable, so easy to use from room to room and to take with you when you leave.

#18 Snagglepussed

Posted 10 May 2012 - 09:43 AM

QUOTE
If you do keep using the unflued heater, then I'd recommend getting a carbon monoxide detector, it works like smoke detectors and will sound an alarm if the build up gets too high. The last time I checked they are still selling at Bunnings and similar for around $65-70.

Might look into that as we have the Rinnai - have to admit I love it......although I always leave the kitchen window (open plan townhouse) open to create some airflow...

I have always wondered about the unflued issue as in Europe it would be illegal!
Mind you in Europe the houses are airtight - not like the drafty houses they build here!!!! LOL



#19 *LucyE*

Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:08 AM

QUOTE
I have always wondered about the unflued issue as in Europe it would be illegal!
Mind you in Europe the houses are airtight - not like the drafty houses they build here!!!! LOL

In Germany, they recommend that heaters get turned off once a day and the home gets opened up to flush fresh air through. Even when it's snowing!

#20 ~Panda~

Posted 10 May 2012 - 11:16 AM

We use a portable gas heater (unflued) but our house has 11ft ceilings, vents in the walls and ceilings and is very drafty. My Rinnai heater also shuts itself off if there is not enough oxygen in the room (this has never happened). I love it. Instant heat. In saying that, if you have an external wall that you could fix the gas heater to, then by all means, get a flued heater. We did not have that option.

Edited by ~Panda~, 10 May 2012 - 11:18 AM.





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