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Anyone Celebrating Samhain/halloween, tonight?

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#1 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:01 PM

I just realised this was on, anyone celebrate? how do you celebrate?

#2 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:03 PM

I have a hat that needs burning so I can rid myself of some oppressive energies, would tonight be a good time to do that? how should I go about that? maybe I need a new thread for that..

#3 ~chiquita~

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:05 PM

I think you mean May Day / Beltane?

#4 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:08 PM

no that's the northern spring festival, I don't think we can really do "May day" as such, can we?

#5 ~chiquita~

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:19 PM

QUOTE (blackbird @ 30/04/2012, 08:08 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
no that's the northern spring festival, I don't think we can really do "May day" as such, can we?

I'm sure there would be some pagan / wiccan festivities around regardless of what side of the equator we're on. Samhain/Halloween is definitely October 31st.

Edited by ~chiquita~, 30 April 2012 - 08:22 PM.

#6 PinkSurvivor

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:22 PM

Halloween is Oct 31st original.gif

#7 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:27 PM

yes in the Northern hemisphere, but not here, wait, this is an Australian forum still right?

#8 Escapin

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:30 PM

So we should do Easter in September then? And Christmas in July? Please tell me you're kdding...

#9 GamerMum

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:33 PM

Easter and Christmas aren't pagan holidays so they are celebrated on their own dates. But the pagan equivalent would be done in the corresponding seasons. So technically, yes, it's Samhain/halloween tonight in the southern hemisphere.

I'm don't do anything for it, but I did realise the date when I saw it this morning.

#10 ~chiquita~

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:36 PM

QUOTE (blackbird @ 30/04/2012, 08:27 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
yes in the Northern hemisphere, but not here, wait, this is an Australian forum still right?

Lol, yes this is an Australian forum. We don't swap things around because we are in the southern hemisphere.

Hallowe'en or All Hallows' Eve, is a yearly holiday observed around the world on October 31, the night before All Saints' Day. Much like Day of the Dead celebrations, the Christian feast of All Hallows' Eve, according to some scholars, incorporates traditions from pagan harvest festivals and festivals honouring the dead, particularly the Celtic Samhain/Halloween or All Hallows Eve is October 31st. All Saints Day is November 1st.

Edited by ~chiquita~, 30 April 2012 - 09:30 PM.

#11 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:38 PM

that's exactly right, I'm not talking about Christian events that had their dates placed onto off pagan celebrations to replace them but actual pagan dates that run with the seasons, and don't get me started on Easter, the bunnies and eggs are pagan, in relation to spring and fertility but anyway...

Now before anyone gets too excited I am well aware that this whole date thing can be debated till we are blue in the face, its personal opinion if we choose to believe tonight is Halloween, so I'm not about to go there with this, lets just stick to the original post if you don't believe you don't need to comment, thanks

Edited by blackbird, 30 April 2012 - 08:45 PM.

#12 GamerMum

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

Blackbird is correct. Pagan holidays go by season, not calender dates. So they are all six months ahead/behind of what they are in the northern hemisphere.

#13 Escapin

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:41 PM

Yes, I know about Easter/Christmas being Christian 'takeovers' of existing pagan festivals. That's kind of my (sh*t stirring) point original.gif

#14 ~chiquita~

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:48 PM

QUOTE (Giltine @ 30/04/2012, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blackbird is correct. Pagan holidays go by season, not calender dates. So they are all six months ahead/behind of what they are in the northern hemisphere.

My pagan/wiccan days are long over yet nobody I knew celebrated Halloween tonight. May Day was a big deal although we are in the southern hemisphere.

QUOTE (Escapin @ 30/04/2012, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Yes, I know about Easter/Christmas being Christian 'takeovers' of existing pagan festivals. That's kind of my (sh*t stirring) point original.gif


Back to your original question, no, I don't celebrate. Not anymore anyway.

#15 blackbird

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:50 PM

original.gif I might have to go google May Day, I always picture the spring bonnets and the pole and such but that's about it

#16 She-Ra

Posted 30 April 2012 - 08:58 PM

There you go! I didnt know about this at all, I only knew May Day to be International Workers Day.

#17 **Xena**

Posted 01 May 2012 - 12:40 PM

QUOTE (Giltine @ 30/04/2012, 08:41 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Blackbird is correct. Pagan holidays go by season, not calender dates. So they are all six months ahead/behind of what they are in the northern hemisphere.

Exactly. I did celebrate yes. I usually celebrate both on both days both for tradition's sake and for the 'real' celebration for the Southern Hemisphere.

I generally light a candle for those I have lost and spend some time in the Garden for the Northern counterpart original.gif

#18 lozoodle

Posted 02 May 2012 - 07:47 AM

In the northern hemisphere its 31 October. Not here.

Its a pagan holiday, its a seasonal thing, not based on calendar dates.

#19 Bubble11

Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:02 AM

Halloween is an adaption/take over whatever you want to call it of a pagan holiday like Christmas and easter were, but it's now just a specific day on the calendar so I don't think it should be moved.  

Samhain is a pagan feast day that would be celebrated according to the season. So you could celebrate Samhain and Beltane on the opposite days to the north and still have Halloween on 31st October, like Christmas and easter they're just specific dates now.

Personally I think pagan festivals should be celebrate on the right seasonally dates, as these are essentially seasonal festivals. The pagan days don't make much sense if you celebrate them by northern hemisphere dates as there's things like the winter festival asks for and celebrates the return of the sun, of longer days, of a potential end to the cold & sometimes almost fasting conditions of winter.  Celebrating this in the middle of summer just doesn't make much sense tongue.gif .

#20 Eirinn

Posted 02 May 2012 - 08:03 AM

According to the tradition I follow, some festivals are obviously seasonal, such as Yule. I celebrate those at the correct Southern hemisphere season. However, Beltane and Samhain to me are not seasonal. At Samhain, for instance, the veils are not thinner on one side of the world and not the other. Doesn't make sense to me.

So I just celebrated Beltane. My kids are only little, so we told a wonder tale and had a small brazier going for them.

#21 Guest_Marquise_*

Posted 21 October 2012 - 10:40 PM

sooooo....anyone celebrating beltane at the end of the month? (quite right, pagan celebration are tied into the seasons, and imo they don't make sense if separated from them)

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