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Would you try sleep school (Tresilian) for a 3 mo?


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#51 Feral-as-Meggs

Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:37 AM

QUOTE (Riotproof @ 27/04/2012, 07:16 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Presumably, it's like most things and depends on which one you go to and which nurse you get.
Their online documentation does suggest cc for 6 months plus. Though even in the younger baby section they claim that a baby will "protest" at the settling method. I am not comfortable with the idea of being supported to leave younger babies to "protest", presumably others are, but it's not something I would consider.


Aargh.  You don't "leave" them to protest.  You just do another settling technique besides shoving a boob in their mouth.  Besides its not gaol.   They work with you to make a plan you are happy with, and then support you.

OP my experience with a similar pattern to yours was that it improved immeasurably just by gently stretching out the day feeds to 4 hourly ( some smaller/ lighter bubs there were going for 3 hourly ).  No crying for a feed, just distraction.  That together with settling the day sleeps without feeding more than halved the night waking automatically, no crying necessary.

Edited by meggs1, 27 April 2012 - 10:39 AM.


#52 PigNewton

Posted 27 April 2012 - 10:52 AM

OP, I agree with the PPs who said that your experience may depend on which Tresillian and which nurse you get. Is it possible to tell us where you are, so maybe a member who lives in your area could hook you up with a place that worked well for them? either that, or name the places that your GP refers you to, and posters can give you reviews?
For myself, I never had to do Tresillian, but I do know the utter havoc that too little sleep can wreak on your body (and your baby) We have been sorting some toddler sleep issues with DS and we have noticed that when he wasnt sleeping enough his behaviour and speech went backwards.
FWIW I have had friends stay in Torrens house here in Adelaide for sleep issues, and it has been very positive for them original.gif

#53 WinterIsComing

Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

HI All,

After last night, I definitely made up my mind to ask for a referral ASAP. I am going to ECHC early next week and telling them all about my sleep/feeding woes. From 3 to 7 am (after 2 waking times that resulted in fast sleep), it was basically a lasting nightmare, with him falling asleep for a short period of time and then waking up, interchanging between crying and being playful. It is all a blur, I am at a point when I struggle to remember how many times he woke up and what happened. I dread going to sleep. My relationship is at a breaking point as DH also needs to get through a very demanding, long hours job each day but I have not choice but to wake him because sometimes I am just physically unable to get up.

Anything's gotta be better for our son and our whole family than the current chaos. How can anyone think that 5 minutes of crying here and there is detrimental to his mental health, while parents going out of their minds and fighting in front of him about who is going to get up, mother feeling out of it all day and too exhausted to devote quality time to him, is OK.

I am in Northern Sydney area, so if anyone has recommendations, I will appreciate a PM.



#54 Bam1

Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:21 PM

OP just saw this thread and just read your last post and I'm glad you are going. I would have once thought 3 months was too young but with my DD (exactly like your DS) I stuck it out for over a year and I was absolutely exhausted as I was working as well.

Took her to Tresillian and they pretty much had her sorted the first night with no crying, the time was spent "training" me how to help her self settle rather than training her to sleep and I found the experience so positive.

Once at home and having her sleep through the night, I could not believe I had left it so long!

Good luck

Edited by Bam1, 27 April 2012 - 02:22 PM.


#55 spottydog

Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:27 PM

Good luck.

When our DD was around 5months, i was getting to the point that i just couldnt do it anymore aswell. So i know how you are feeling.

I was very lucky to have a very supportive DH who done his thing, we both had important roles, his was to go out and earn the money and mine to stay home and care for DD. We were both exhausted, but we shared the settling between us until we got help.

I initially went to my MCHN and asked right away for a emergency tresillian place, but they put me on the waiting list and took me into their local little centre, a day sleep school. They were fantastic and helped us so much.

Our DD just needed both her parents to stick to a routine and we managed to settle down a bit.

She was a terrible teether and for the first two years of her life we would have good nights and bad, i spent a lot of the time on her floor just being there for her, no CC, and lots of tired days.... but the advice i recieved was excellent and it worked for us.

Good luck. You sound exhausted, and hopefully you will get some help asap. But my advice would be make sure your DH knows how hard it is on you, and that you just cant cope, and in this short window (hopefully) between you getting to see someone and things changing, that he helps, you are a couple after all and as my husband always says to me when i 'thank' him for getting up to settle DD or wake with her early, he wouldnt see me struggle, he loves me and had to help original.gif

spotty.

#56 1st time mummy...

Posted 27 April 2012 - 02:33 PM

I haven't had a chance to read this entire thread but just thought I would put a quick reply...

I did a residential stay with my then 13 month old son in December last year (4 months ago) at Tresillian Nepean. HIGHLY recommend the centre, staff and facilities there! We had GREAT success and my only wish is that we done it sooner...

We went through hell & back (or so it felt like!!) with my son for 13 months and although Tresillian wasn't easy...it now has my son sleeping 12-13 uninterupted hours every night!! Certainly makes for a happy household!!!!

Good Luck. Message me if you have any questions smile1.gif

#57 Tilly007

Posted 27 April 2012 - 03:43 PM

[quote name='Nat1976' date='27/04/2012, 02:13 PM' post='14526271']


Anything's gotta be better for our son and our whole family than the current chaos. How can anyone think that 5 minutes of crying here and there is detrimental to his mental health, while parents going out of their minds and fighting in front of him about who is going to get up, mother feeling out of it all day and too exhausted to devote quality time to him, is OK.

Completely, 100% agree.

Sleep deprivation plays havoc with families and relationships.  I don't agree it's behaviour that you just have to put up with.  Yes, it is common and happens alot, but your son is old enough to be taught differently.  It doesn't have to be this way.

Some kids naturally find their own ways and learn to sleep without coaxing or training.  Many don't (mine included).  I lived in hope that one day my DS would grow out of night waking.  He didn't.  When he turned 1, and after a few particularly bad weeks, I realised this and we did sleep training for a few days.  Since then he's been great.

#58 mylittlemen

Posted 27 April 2012 - 05:56 PM

OP there is a Tresillian at willoughby which is probably closest to you. I had to do a day stay first but the result of that was for them to list me as a high priority for the residential stay. All up, it took 6 weeks from seeing my ECHN to getting in, but I took a cancellation 4 weeks before the date I was booked in for. Hang in there, but be honest about how things are for you. I was and it meant they took me seriously and did everything they could to speed up the process.

Good luck OP. I have been there and know how tough it is. The ladies at Tresillian are wonderful.

#59 StopTheGoats

Posted 27 April 2012 - 08:13 PM

It appears that most of those who have responded negatively are not entirely sure what happens at Tresillian.
If I were you, I'd trust the expert paeds, nurses and psychologists employed by the sleep school.



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