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Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:06 PM
Sounds like he is not articulating the words correctly. I'm surprised the Speechie was not more helpful!
PS: Illegible relates to writing not speech :-)
Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:19 PM
My almost 3 year old is mostly "intelligble" as well, and we are seeing a speechie every week for group therapy. Its been great so far.
If you can get into a Hanen Program you would really benefit!
Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:40 PM
My 3 yr 3 month old is very similar to that - he has just started weekly speech pathology, which is definitely helping. A few months ago, I was pretty much the only one that could understand him. Now, most people could understand 50% of what he says. Which is progress! He is unfortunately terrible at doing the exercises. It's much more fun to say the word the wrong way. He knows he's doing it, and both the speech pathologist and I have so much trouble getting him to do it.
I think he sounds similar to your little one where he had a great vocabulary but just can't get his mouth around the words. He has known his alphabet for a good year (to say and read), as well as saying his numbers to 100, and counting objects up to about 10, but no one could understand that's what he was doing except for me. I noticed when he was 18 months old that he was breathing in with some sounds and words rather than out, but he was really far too young for speech pathology then, so we and GP decided to wait it out. He is unbelievably aggressive, which has been attributed to his communication issues (which of course it is, but I believe has other causes also), which hopefully will improve a bit when he is more understandable.
It's terrible having your little one come home from pre-school and say he feels sad because he's bad at talking. I would find a different speech pathologist for actual treatment. My son wasn't offered a diagnosis of why he has a problem with his speech (nor do I need one), but just having some guidance on how to help him has been priceless.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:06 PM
DS2 although he could follow long complex instructions, I discovered at 2.5yrs he had hearing loss (when he started to talk it sounded like he was speaking underwater.... in the same manner he was hearing).
When I took his hearing test to the speechie, she gave me a graph which showed that he actually couldn't hear certain sounds due to their frequency. Although he had grommets put in it was actually still 12m before we got a hearing test result which was in the normal range (and that was at the lower edge of normal).
Also just going to add that there are many sounds which don't develop naturally until later (although some children do get them earlier). The graph below shows when 75% of Aussie children have mastered a sound.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:10 PM
My DD was like this too at the age of 3.
I don't think it really matters why the problem has occurred. The important thing is to treat it.
Early intervention is critical to everything that happens down the track. Too often speech difficulties lead to problems with identifying sounds, which leads to problems with reading.
I can't emphasize enough how important it is to get it sorted. As PP have said, find another speech pathologist if you're not getting anywhere with the current one.
Best of luck OP.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:23 PM
Thank you all for the replies. Very helpful. The plan is to start speech therapy once the hearing test has been completed. At this stage, I don't think he is aware that he cannot speak as well as his peers, but I know this will be an issue in the not too distant future.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:44 PM
My DS was a bit of a late talker - by the time he reached the age of 3 and started preschool he had a good vocab but did not pronounce a number of sounds correctly, so it was difficult to understand what he was saying. He has been having weekly speech therapy and has made huge progress. He has now turned 4 and will have just a few more months before his speech is perfect.
The great thing about speech issues like this is that they can be fixed. However there is no "quick fix" - you cannot just take a pill and overnight it will be sorted. It can take months or even years so IMO it's a good idea to get onto it as soon as possible. Otherwise a child may find it hard to join in properly at preschool, and once he or she gets to school it is hard to learn to read if they cannot sound out words correctly.
BTW this it nitpicking but I thought it was "Unintelligible" if a person's speech cannot be understood?
Posted 22 April 2012 - 09:05 PM
My 3 year old now speaks quite clearly but I had him assessed last year for the same issue. What the speech therapist recommended was that we do the opposite of what you do to build speech which is when they talk you build on what they are saying and add information. She wanted us to go back to clear two word sentences. So when he said blah blah car blah blah road blah blah blah she wanted us to say clearly car road. It was so counter intuitive but it worked. We saw her once a month for around six months and he is really good now-on track with his sounds and all.
He had his tonsils and adenoids out several months before he started therapy and it didn't improve his speech but it did improve other issues.
Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:12 PM
Thanks lanthe, that is very helpful. The way you described your child's speech is exactly how DS's conversations go.
We had the hearing test today, Everything is fine, so now we will source a speech therapist. .
Posted 25 April 2012 - 10:59 PM
Hi, my DS has been going to speech since 2.5. Two years on, I cannot speak highly enough of the results. He was exactly like your 3 yo... daily there would be tantrums as he couldn't get himself understood. There is definitely no 'quick fix' but early intervention is terrific. Our SP doesn't want to see him for 6 months, and then to assess he'll be ok for school next year.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 11:08 PM
My DS speech was like that at 3. We Still go to speech therapy an he has also just started OT.... He has Dysphraxia.... They can hear fine and think they are saying it correctly but going from ear to mouth it all gets jumbled.
He is in year 1 now and letter recognition is down an it will effect his reading/writing but hopefully by end of this year, or even next year he will be up to his peers, it's hard going and lots of work but hes getting there
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