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#1 Severus

Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:25 AM

Back in the day - say 50 or 100 years ago, names like
Ashley and Marion were boys' names. People started giving them to girls and today we can't imagine a man by these names.
Even Anne used to be perfectly acceptable for males!

At the present time, the same has happened with Madison, Addison, and I'm sure you can think of some more. On a BOY? You can't really do that anymore can you?

Recently I have picked up on another board that the following names have been used on girls, most of them in several cases.
I really dislike this trend. What names will be left for the boys? And the other way around - a boy with a girlish name - is not done.

OK - done with the rant...
WDYT?

  Apparently, these are now girls’ names:

  Miles

  Gavin

  Justice

  Julian

  Logan

  Teddy

  Kingston

  Colin

  Russell

  Dalton

  Reid

  Fallon

  Michael

  Kennedy

  Aiden

  Jude

  Keaton

  Marlow

  Mason

  Jules (as full name)

  Elliott

  Bradley

  Basil

  Carter

  Chandler



#2 kerilyntaryn

Posted 19 April 2012 - 05:40 AM

I know a girl Mason in her late teens and I've heard of a few Eliot after a TV show with a female Dr called Eliot

I cant imagine lots of those listed names on girl

I do know of a girl called Shaun too


Crazy

#3 Ingrid the Swan

Posted 19 April 2012 - 06:59 AM

Miles Franklin was a woman - and granted, Miles wasn't her FN, it was her given MN, which sheused instead of her FN to make her books appear to have been written by a man.

Also I know a couple of female Judes - it seems to be the NN of choice for any gen x or y girl lumped with Judith as a FN.

Kennedy I thought was a reasonably recently adopted surname-FN, and as such was unisex.

As far as the trend goes - some names I'm like WTF, some names I actually prefer on girls anyway (seeing as my only exposure to the name Elliott in a non-surname capacity is Elliott on Scrubs and the NNs are distinctly feminine, I do prefer it for a girl) and some like Basil I'm surprised at being used at all.

Suppose it doesn't bother me as much as other people.

#4 ~*Amethyst*~

Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:46 AM

This has driven me crazy for years OP!

Some names seem to be ok to be unisex (Taylor, Nicky etc.) but most seem to be feminised really quickly & feels to me to limit use as a boy's name.

XxxAmethyst

#5 goldimouse

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:01 AM

Nooooo! Not Julian! The girls can't have it!

It's crazy OP. There are so many beautiful girls' names out there. Don't know why they have to pinch the boys' ones.

#6 lactasticmama

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:09 AM

Thats just crazy.

Though I could see Reed as a girls name (and maybe Jules), but not the others.

#7 scooty

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:49 AM

My Mum's name is Marion and it has definetly been a girls name for a long time. I found it to be in the top 100 in 1930 (number 88).



#8 Bluenomi

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:50 AM

I haven't seen any of those names used on girls thank goodness!

#9 Becstarinator

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:55 AM

I have friend whose girl is called Haiden-Marie, which at first I thought was unusual but has grown on me.  Helps that she is such an angel original.gif


#10 4kidlets

Posted 19 April 2012 - 08:56 AM

I have come across a girl called Kennedy - in fact  the only person of either sex Ive met with this name.


I would dispute that Anne was ever an established male name - it is in the bible (not in original english form, of course) and I thought was the mother of the Virgin Mary.
From the same root as Hannah, an even older biblical name.

Some of the names on your list, such as Justice and Marlow maybe unisex (Im not sure) but most are still firmly boys names and really show no signs of changing over - Colin, , Michael etc.


Like many established male names they have a long established female equivalent ie Colleen, Michelle - but this is nothing new.

I guess I dont see using an established female version of a name as a big deal (I have a Rylee but this was not a new spelling or usage even 10 years ago ph34r.gif )

I wouldnt go as far as outright using a known male only name such as Michael in its original form though.

#11 Tesseract

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:06 AM

Women with men's names do better in life, study after study shows this. Our GG being a perfect example.

I think the trend is probably coming from the same place as the fact that it's ok for girls to wear blue overalls but not ok for boys to wear pink tutus. It's alright for girls to aspire 'up' in the social hierarchy, but would be weird if boys aspired 'down'. Once names are used on girls they can't be then used on boys, cos that would be gay... (Oh we've got gender equality already do we? Is that why you're not a feminist? Riiiiight.)

#12 Bam1

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:37 AM

I think parents have much more to do with how a child turns out then the name itself. A name is a reflection of the parents though and I think its not so much that Quentin is a "boys" name but in giving their daughter a name like Quentin back in the 40s it shows her parents weren't willing to let convention stop them or their daughter in doing what she wanted to do. Quentin seems to have carried this strength throughout her life.

Its a shame people feel that they can't use a name on a boy just because its been used by a girl but if they feel they don't have the strength to back up their choice of name then its probably better to stay within convention.



Edited to change Bryce to Quentin - got surname mixed up - thanks PatG

Edited by Bam1, 20 April 2012 - 12:39 AM.


#13 discomonkey

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:49 AM

My DD is called Spencer. It suits her, we like it. Don't really care what anyone else thinks but it is a female undergarment so I struggle to think of it as terribly masculine.

I was accosted once in a baby yoga class by a woman with a little boy called Spencer, saying she thought it was inappropriate, which amused me. If you don't like boys' names for girls, don't use them. What other people name their kids is out of your control - why waste energy worrying about it?




#14 Bel Rowley

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:57 AM

QUOTE (Tesseract @ 19/04/2012, 09:06 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I think the trend is probably coming from the same place as the fact that it's ok for girls to wear blue overalls but not ok for boys to wear pink tutus. It's alright for girls to aspire 'up' in the social hierarchy, but would be weird if boys aspired 'down'. Once names are used on girls they can't be then used on boys, cos that would be gay... (Oh we've got gender equality already do we? Is that why you're not a feminist? Riiiiight.)

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#15 Ianthe

Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:23 AM

What I find concerning is the fact that it is ok for girls to have traditionally masculine names but the trend doesn't go the other way. It's as if only male characteristics are prized and feminine ones are not. I am not saying that it is a conscious decision for all parents that do this but I do think some people want a strong name for their daughter and to them strong=male. Which to me is sad. I would rather name a daughter after a strong female role model.

#16 niggles

Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:33 AM

I think Tesseract put it very succinctly.

I don't understand the attraction personally, especially the -son names.

#17 kerilyntaryn

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:00 AM

I know a lady in her 30's called Scott

#18 Z-girls rock

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:14 AM

To be honest I used to kind of mind this.

But ages ago I got to know Tibetan culture and my local Tibetan community more. None of there names are gendered. They are all unisex.

Tashi, Dolma, Pema, Chimae, Karma, Kyinzom etc etc
If you want to name your child after the Dalai Lama (his name is Tenzin Gyatso) you can no matter if your child is a boy or girl.

And now I really like it. There are so many things that are divided down gender lines, I am pretty over it.

Having said that, it might take some getting used too... Because I am sure I would still double take if I heard a little girl called Gavin or a little boy called Tina. But you know... once you know the child... you probably would get used to it quickly! Because it really doesnt matter does it. A boy called Tina is just a boy called Tina anyone who thinks that would make him 'gay' does not understand how 'the gay' works (and Tina is not that different to Tony or Taylor anyway). A woman called Gavin is not so different to a woman called Georgie/George is it?

#19 newyearbaby

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:18 AM

I am truly sorry if this offends anyone, but I think Russell is a bad enough name for a boy, let alone a girl.

#20 vanessa71

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (discomonkey @ 19/04/2012, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
My DD is called Spencer. It suits her, we like it. Don't really care what anyone else thinks but it is a female undergarment so I struggle to think of it as terribly masculine.


Jaclyn Smith has a daughter called Spencer too, however she seems to be often referred to as Spencer Margaret, so people realise she is female.

I don't see Spencer as a feminine name, my image is of Spencer Tracy and he certainly was not what you would call femimine.

Once a child has been named and the name used, it would be rare for the name not to suit.  wink.gif


#21 Bam1

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:21 AM

QUOTE (discomonkey @ 19/04/2012, 09:49 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I was accosted once in a baby yoga class by a woman with a little boy called Spencer, saying she thought it was inappropriate, which amused me. If you don't like boys' names for girls, don't use them. What other people name their kids is out of your control - why waste energy worrying about it?


I've had a similar thing happen with my daughter who has a traditional male name - its just sad that people think their son's masculinity is somehow threatened by having the same name as a girl.  

I have yet to meet a someone who has a girl with the same name as my son who has a traditional girls name but it probably won't raise the same angst as with my daughter's name.

Its funny pink used to be the colour designated for boys and no one is complaining now that the girls have taken over all the good boy colours!


#22 GoldenBlack

Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:34 AM

QUOTE (Bam1 @ 19/04/2012, 11:21 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Its funny pink used to be the colour designated for boys and no one is complaining now that the girls have taken over all the good boy colours!


Well, once a girl has used it, it's ruined don'tcha know  ph34r.gif

My baby girl has a very old girl's name, but is tall and big (and I'm not), so I get 'he' regardless, though I use 'she' in conversation.  It amuses me, but it gets awkward when people are worried I'm going to be offended, so I'm constantly reassuring them.

My father has a traditional girl's name.  It doesn't seem to have ruined his life.

My RL name is very, very old - so old it's really rarely used, and people have started using it as a boy's name, which is kind of amusing too!


#23 discomonkey

Posted 19 April 2012 - 12:01 PM

QUOTE (vanessa71 @ 19/04/2012, 11:21 AM)
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Jaclyn Smith has a daughter called Spencer too, however she seems to be often referred to as Spencer Margaret, so people realise she is female.

I don't see Spencer as a feminine name, my image is of Spencer Tracy and he certainly was not what you would call femimine.

Once a child has been named and the name used, it would be rare for the name not to suit.  wink.gif



Good point! Spencer Tracey was awesome and I always think of boy Spencers to be dapper and urbane, probably thanks to him.


Your Spencer is gorgeous, BTW.







#24 I'm Batman

Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:49 PM

Since you asked, I dislike most unisex names.

#25 vanessa71

Posted 19 April 2012 - 01:59 PM

QUOTE (discomonkey @ 19/04/2012, 12:01 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Your Spencer is gorgeous, BTW.


Thank you.  original.gif





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