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Posted 17 April 2012 - 03:08 PM
I've never got gold before! Come on blue bundle this month! Perhaps it's a good sign!
Edited by V's mummy, 17 April 2012 - 03:09 PM.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:18 PM
Gotta have a rant. I am ovulating. TODAY. Positive digital opk, masses of ovulation pain and a serious amount of EWCM. We haven't had sex in almost a week. Perfect, right?
NO. Stupid DP has manflu (i.e. a sniffle) and has decided that him being "less energetic" will cause "lazy sperm" and wants to give this month a miss.
I'm so ready to pounce the second he walks through the door tonight, he better be feeling better.
Posted 17 April 2012 - 07:14 PM
Bronze!!! Hi all,
V's mummy - I hope gold is a good sign for you too! Thanks for your supportve post and information regarding BF'ing. I appreciate it! I guess I just keep waiting.... I must have been very lucky with DS2
Lozoodle - I hope DH was in a better frame of mind when he got home. Good luck if all goes to plan
Little Ladybug - is it Thursday yet???? Not stalking or anything Hopefully you're being good and holding out. Me, I'm a POAS addict - no restraint here! I wish you well....
Jemso - I hope this is a good month for you too! Glad AF returned, hoping your cycle is shorter this month. How long have you been taking Vitex for? If a while, have you noticed any difference in cycles? I hadn't heard of it before, maybe it is something I should consider? Great of your DF doing the night resettling too
Wow, 1.5 weeks & sleeping through! Shame she regressed, hopefully with DF resettling her may help too. My first two were great but DS2 (now 16 months) has only just started sleeping better. He was a shocker!!!! It was a VERY long 15 months.... For us DH ended up doing the night resettling as well & I reckon that's what ultimately helped him sleep. It helped me as well as AF returned.
Avonlea - Hi, I'm another TTC a girl & avoiding the diet. I'm hoping supplements will do the trick - I've just got to buy some lol!
Ras500 - Welcome! There are a few ladies swaying for a boy, I'm sure they'll be able to give you some advice. I think page 9 of the previous thread has a list of information on swaying for either gender.... HIH
AFM - nothing....
Edited by TarneeW, 17 April 2012 - 07:16 PM.
Posted 18 April 2012 - 12:09 AM
I thought I'd re-post this so it's on page one of this thread - feel free to refer people back to it and copy it for later threads.
Here's alice08's original post describing all of the details on how to sway for a particular gender (covering a number of techniques):
THE GENDER SWAYERS GROUP
Welcome to our group!
With so much information available out there on 'gender swaying', it is often hard to know what may really give you the best chance in TTC A SPECIFIC GENDER. Due to the obvious need, this group was started to provide an open, honest and non-judgmental place where ladies who are trying to conceive a specific gender can come to share their knowledge / experience / journey with other ladies who understand and share that desire.
We are a friendly bunch, so you may find yourself addicted (like the rest of us), and you may also find the experience proves to be much more than you ever anticipated.
Obviously, when it comes to low-tech 'gender swaying' nothing is fail proof, so please be aware no method can be 100% guaranteed. However, with the ultimate goal of a healthy pregnancy and baby in mind, making a great gender swaying attempt means that there will be no regrets, regardless of your outcome.
We have many ladies who form our group, both regular and occasional posters, and we welcome everyone with an interest in Gender Swaying into this group regardless of the method you choose to use. We wish you every success in achieving your gender dream.
GENDER TIPS AND TRICKS
(which can really help your attempt)
TO CONCEIVE A GIRL
Have intercourse with shallow penetration; this means "missionary position" (male on top) which will deposit sperm away from the cervix where alkaline secretions are made which favour male-producing sperm.
Have frequent intercourse up until cut-off date; this will help naturally diminish the sperm as lower sperm counts may favour the production of female sperm (please use protection while leading up to your attempt).
Women should avoid orgasm as having an orgasm increases alkaline secretions & the contractions that accompany orgasm propel sperm faster towards the cervix, giving greater assistance for male sperm.
TO CONCEIVE A BOY
Abstain from having frequent amounts of intercourse (this will increase sperm count associated with higher incidence of males).
Have intercourse with deep penetration; this means "woman on top", "man from behind" which will deposit sperm near the opening of the cervix where secretions are more favourable to the male-producing sperm.
Women should have an orgasm (if possible) at the same time or right before the male has his. Female orgasms increase the quantity & flow of alkaline secretions. Additionally, female orgasmic contractions help transport the sperm into the cervix.
Males should stay as cool as possible, no hot showers before intercourse to keep sperm in peak condition, and exercise like bike riding should be minimised whilst ttc.
GENDER SWAYING METHODS
CINDY'S A-GENDER METHOD
Our resident 'Gender Swaying Guru' is the lovely Cindy (gendercindy). Cindy has been researching natural gender selection for over 4.5 years and has been assisting ladies to conceive the gender of their choice for some time now.
Her methods focus on the following areas for a well planned attempt -
INTERNAL REPRODUCTIVE ENVIRONMENT
EXTERNAL LUNAR ENERGY AT TIME OF BD
PERSONAL ENERGY AT OVULATION/CONCEPTION
Please be aware that Cindy's method is not related to the 'Shettles' method for gender selection through intercourse timing. Through her extensive personal research and information gathered while providing Gender Predictions here on EB, she has found evidence of many boys conceived with cut-offs (ask your friends, you may be surprised how often this happens!) or girls conceived at ovulation.
One of Shettles' beliefs is that all women are alkaline at ovulation (thus favouring conception of a boy) and acidic most other times of the month, however Cindy's research has shown that this is not correct as some women remain slightly acidic even at ovulation and vice versa. She believes that by altering this reproductive state, Shettles timing becomes irrelevant.
Please be aware, as with all "low-tech" gender swaying methods it is not possible to guarantee 100% success, as there are so many variables which can ultimately affect gender... Applying Cindy's research, however, will help you to have the best possible attempt, and if you try all you can to conceive a specific gender and you still end up conceiving the opposite gender, then you will know that you have a very determined little soul who is just desperate to be a part of your family and that is wonderful. ...GOOD LUCK!!!
BOY DIET TIPS
DRINKS - softdrinks, fruit juice, alcohol, tea and coffee
MEAT - all meat
INCREASE SALT CONSUMPTION
FISH - all fish especially salted varieties- tin fish also good
EGGS - only one or two per week
Rice, pasta, potatoes, cornflakes
Bread - all bread fine except wholewheat, crackers
Cakes - yes again - all store bought, home-made
Veges - all especially carrots except forbidden (see below)
Dried beans, split peas etc
Fruit - all fruit and fruit juices (especially bananas, apricots)
Dried fruit - dates, figs, apricots
Tin or packet soup and ready made meals made without milk or dairy.
Alka seltzer and antacids ok
NONE OF THE FOLLOWING
Milk (or minimalize greatly)
chocolate - mineral water, dairy products - milk, cheese, yoghurt - ice cream, white sauces, hollaindaise, bechamel, shellfish - lobster etc. crepes, waffles, no green salads, cabbage, spinach, nuts, hazelnut, peanuts, almonts, cashews, cocoa, mustard
Women with any pre-existing medical conditions should seek medical advice if unsure (girl or boy diet) as for example women with high blood pressure are advised against the boy diet...
GIRL DIET TIPS
DRINKS - high calcium milk must have 750ml min each day. Or high calcium water (acidic ph) bottled varieties - evian, perrier etc (thats it ladies - I am sorry)
MEAT - 130g per day only - more white than red
EGGS - ok in moderation
DAIRY - Yoghurt, milk desserts (2 x a day)+ milk as above
Bread - low/no salt variety (reduce yeast products)
Nuts - almonds, peanuts, hazel nuts, cashews all unsalted
FRUITS - apples, strawberries, rasberries
VEGES - Potatoes minimal (3 x week max) green beans, onions, leeks, peas, cucumber, radish, capsicum, celery, cooked tomato, eggplant, fresh asparagus, green salad
Jam - once per day
Rice, pasta, flour
Oils,spices, curry powders (no salt)
NONE OF THE FOLLOWING
Coffee, tea, chocolate, fruit juice, soft drinks, alcohol, pork, ham, ready to eat meals, smoked anything, sauces and gravy, shellfish, cheese (try nimbin low salt variety - this would be ok in small quantities), cakes (store bought) quiche, pizza, corn, popcorn, dry fruit, all other fruit than what is allowed, liquorice, olives, gherkins, tin or packet soup, alka seltzer or antacids...
THE SHETTLES TIMING METHOD
FOR A GIRL
Have intercourse 2-3 days before ovulation. Avoid intercourse until 3 days after ovulation and when you have peak cervical fluid. The theory is, X-chromosome (female) sperm last longer than the Y-chromosome (male) sperm, therefore will be "awaiting" and capable of fertilizing the egg. He also believes women are more acidic at this time ´┐Ż an acidic environment has been proven to be ideal for X-chromosome (female) sperm.
Accuracy is paramount so the use of OPKs is recommended to determine ovulation.
FOR A BOY
Have intercourse at ovulation only. The theory is, Y-chromosome (male) sperm are quicker than the X-chromosome (female) sperm, therefore will be able to fertilize the egg first. He also notes that women are more alkaline at ovulation - an alkaline environment has been proven to be ideal for Y-chromosome (male) sperm.
Accuracy is paramount so the use of OPKs is recommended to determine ovulation.
ENJOY MAKING YOUR PINK OR BLUE BUNDLE!!!!!
Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:12 AM
Well I caved in and tested yesterday, nothing, but I am trying to stay posative as it was only 9DPO. No sign of AF though and I normally get spotting for a while before AF shows up so even if I was on a 28 day cycle the spotting normally would have started by now. So here's hoping. =)
Posted 18 April 2012 - 11:47 AM
lozoodle oh no! hope you managed to convince your DP. all the conditions were perfect too, how often does that happen?
tarnee hmmm. i thought i was taking the vitex for 1.5 months but seems it has only been a month haha. it apparently takes a few months to work properly though.
littleladybug oh sucks you got a BFN. fingers crossed it was just too early. when is your next test date? LOL will be turning into a stalker haha
afm OMG DD2 slept through the WHOLE NIGHT last night with NO resettling needed. woohoo! am in the boring part of my cycle (on CD3) and was doing some more obsessive reading and read that drinking lemon water can help increase the PH of my vag so went out and bought 2kg of lemons haha. guess what i will be drinking for the next few weeks?
Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:04 PM
Little ladybug - bummer about the test, but its only early
Jemso - woohoo on the sleep through!
Us - PHEW, we ended up going for it last night, so spot on the day of ovulation. Not holding out much hope given its only our first cycle but am happy to at least not have wasted an opportunity.
Posted 18 April 2012 - 04:30 PM
I'm going to start ttc in Aug/Sept but have a VERY irregular cycle, so I've emailed the naturopath that works out of my local pharmacy to arrange an appointment. I'd like some advice on vitex and anything else she can suggest. I really want to start charting as we'd like to sway for a girl but it's mind boggling, esp when I have no idea what's going on with my cycle.
Jemso, are the lemons a boy or girl sway thing? I should know what you're swaying for, I've been reading alot of posts in this section but I've got a brain like a sieve... and a teething ten and a half mth old son who woke up 3 times last night before I got up at 5 to get ready for work...
Lazoodle, LOL!!! Couldn't not comment on your post! Your DP sounds like my DH. When I am sick my "duties" throughout the day are no different from when I'm not sick, I just feel like crap while I'm doing it all. When DH is sick he lays on the couch and whines at me about how unsympathetic I am (while I vacuum under his feet and mutter that I might be unsympathetic but at least I'm not pathetic). Tell him to get on with his duties like you'd have to, he can roll over and die later, as long as he inseminates you first lol!
So apart from waiting to hear back from this naturopath about vitex & supps if she knows anything about all this, I've made a drs appt for friday arvo as I need to take DH anyway. Was looking into Clomid for help with O but maybe that's a bit extreme? I'm panicking because I really want to start charting and make a good go of swaying for a girl but I need to start somewhere and really wish my cycle was regular enough that it made charting a bit simpler so I could chart for a few months, and start trying in August. I also wouldn't mind a supp to lift my libido a bit, if anyone has any suggestions?
Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:31 AM
Look what I got! (It's a little hard to see cos I downsized the photo too much, but it is definatly there!) It's all a little surreal, it's going to take a little while to get it into my head I think.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 11:46 AM
A huge CONGRATULATIONS Little Ladybug!!!! So very exciting for you! Hoping you have a great pregnancy & looking forward to one day finding out if little Aria is on board
I'm very excited for you!!!!
When are you due?
Posted 19 April 2012 - 03:32 PM
Omg!!!!! Yay yay yay!!!!!! Congratulations little ladybug! 5 days until I test! I hope some of your good luck rubs off on some of us too!
How many DPO are you little ladybug?
Edited by V's mummy, 19 April 2012 - 03:32 PM.
Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:24 PM
WOOHOOOOO Little Ladybug you will be in my DIG!!!!!!!!!!
Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:30 PM
I'm 11 DPO. I am going to test again in a few days since I have a test left over lol. Just for fun and to make it a bit more believable, especially since I can't get in to see my Dr until May 8th!
And Yay Aurora!
Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:33 PM
OMG Little Ladybug Congratulations!!!!!! It makes me so excited to see that + test (you can see it just fine btw!) even though it's not mine. I'll never forget that feeling of seeing it, no matter how much you want it and even if you suspect it.... it's just soooo surreal. I can't wait for that to happen to me. I'm so excited for you! How did you tell your partner? Will you find out what colour you're having?
Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:21 PM
Has been ages since I checked in so here goes with the personals LOL
Ladybug, 3BeautifulDS - YAY for you. So fantastic, think we all needed some more good news. Best of luck with everything.
Jade - Are you still BFing your DS? You have probably said but can't remember. Not sure what Dr will say as your DS is only 11 mths old, but if your cycle doesn't become regular over next few months I definitely would ask questions. Don't leave it 3 years like I did only to find out your eggs are in short supply!
Lozoodle - Great that you got DH to DTD on right day. Manflu apparently is a real condition - wonder who decided that, a man Dr?! FX for you.
Tarnee - thanks for message. Hope your cycle settles down, might have to stop BFing though for that to happen fully.
Beadles - I use OPKs from a-gender website, not sure if they are still selling them though. I use all a-gender info as a guide as they had very high success rates. They would tell us to check ph (both DH and me) 3 weeks prior to serious BDing so you have time to adjust things in your diet etc if it is too high. Then you test each week leading up to BD and then probably day before BD so you know if you need to use lime tampon (sorry if TMI) to reduce ph. My DH wasn't so keen on testing ph at first but got used to it after a couple times.
Hi to Aqua and Aurora the 'Graduates'!! Hope you ladies are keeping well. Look forward to joining the club soon.
afm - really must apologise as I'll I've done is talk about my problems lately. Talked to OB/GYN last night after I had AMH blood test done. For those of you who don't know AMH is related to egg numbers. He is concerned about my ovarian reserve as AMH was very low. Basically my eggs are in short supply and he has recommended trying Clomid as a first step. I will see him in 2 weeks and go from there. DH has to have sperm test to see if it is not a combined problem, in which case Clomid would not help. He did say IVF is next step but that would probably not be an option for us as DH doesn't like it and we already have 2 healthy kids to be grateful for. Trying to stay positive although if I ended up with twin boys, would not be happy Jan!
Best of luck to all of you and I just wanted to also say to anyone reading who has not fallen pregnant after trying for 12 mths and who has irregular cycles, please go see someone. I am only 33 and already it is nearly over for us.
Posted 21 April 2012 - 01:06 PM
lozoodle yay for convincing DP to man up LOL. still having a laugh about his "lazy sperm" do you have a test date planned?
jade lemons are for boys aparrently they can increase the PH of your vag. i dont know where i saw it now but i heard of someone using a "lime tampon" (i am assuming lime juice infused) for a girl but EWWWWWW. how did you go at the drs yesterday? did they give you any helpful info?
wannapinky im so sorry to hear of your low AMH, sending you huge huge hugs.
afm feeling pretty good today i must say. got back on the treadmill after a month off the wagon exercise and healthy eating wise, then jumped on the scales to find i am 400g down on my pre-off-the-wagon weight. i was shocked cos the past month i have been eating crap every day! i have lost 19kgs since november and am 6kg lighter than pre pregnancy so hoping being at a healthy weight will assist in me conceiving quicker (i had one dr who i saw when i was TTC DD1 for 18 months tell me that i needed to "drop a few kgs" when i was only 70kgs) man i was fuming.
yeah, so i think the exercise endorphins have put me in a good mood today (though tomorrow i will be cursing the exercise LOL) ummm, nothing much going on. CD6 here, going to start OPKs at CD11 and hope that this month i have a cycle under 35 days.
oh, and DD2 is STILL sleeping through. EVERY night since sunday night, i am so excited i want to do a happy dance hahahaha
Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:20 PM
Jemso - Great news about your DD sleeping through I hope it has continued since your post. It is such a relief when sleep starts happening!
AFM - On Monday (CD31) AF arrived.... I'm so confused as I'm pretty sure I didn't O. No CM of any interest and definitely no EWCM. Is it possible for AF to occur without O?
This is only my second AF and the time before my last AF, I had an abundance of CM which lasted almost 10 days with EWCM. AF arrived 8 days later.... I'm confused! (Sorry if TMI)
Has anyone had similar? I'm going to post in TTC while BFing - I'm sure it's all related????
Hope everyone is well - it's been pretty quiet in here
Posted 25 April 2012 - 08:39 PM
I'm new to this section. I have a DS who is 2 next month, and now that we're settled in a really nice routine and things are easier- we thought we may as well make life crazy again and have another little baby! I would be perfectly happy with either gender, but a little girl would mean we would stop at 2 children. We have a house full of boys when you consider the dog is male too!
Thanks for all the wonderful information posted in the first page of this thread. AF last appeared on 17 April so I think I will O on 1st May. So we have to get cracking over the next few days and then stop from about the 28th April? I hope I have that right? And get cracking on the dairy, nuts and jam!
Looking forward to chatting with you all.
Posted 25 April 2012 - 09:14 PM
Will come back to post properly another day but just wanted to say Tarnee that it can be very common not to ovulate while breastfeeding, especially if your cycle has only just come back.
Posted 26 April 2012 - 09:48 PM
Id love to take a poll but dont know if there's any such function on eb. How many ladies are taking vitex, and is it working for you? Specifically if you had long/irregular cycles beforehand. Also has anyone ever used clomid?
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