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#26 nikksta

Posted 18 April 2012 - 06:00 PM

Hi all,

Have been lurking on and off the last couple of months (thats more my style). Glad to hear everyone is going along pretty well and growing little healthy bundles. We have more twins than I would have imagined!!! Very exciting original.gif

I had a scan today and I had only just managed to convince DP that we should find out the sex, only to have our little one keep its legs firmly closed. Bummer.. I am very keen to start decorating!!!! Otherwise though our little one seemed very healthly and was scooting around as much as he/she could avoiding the sonographer.. I hope to possibly have another scan in a couple of weeks to maybe try again for the gender..


#27 heliwifeBecG

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:42 AM

hi all,

am 18 wks tomorrow and had listened to the heartbeat today. 162bpm...so strong and clear. its amazing! the best sound. wub.gif  hheart.gif  hheart.gif  hheart.gif

Does anyone have any tips on sore back remedies? I should be more clear...my right hip and lower back are sooooo sore and tender. I look like I am 182 when trying to stand up and it hurts to even walk.
Hubby works out of town so most nights I am home by myself and no one to give me back rubs, so that tip is out! Wheat bags don't do much.  

Went to physio yesterday and he put my hip back in, as it was out, felt good yesterday arvo but by last night, bam, so much pain again. sad.gif

I dont have a big belly yet and Im not overwieght (156cm & 60kgs) and Im worried that if the pain is already pretty bad now, what is it going to be like when I get a decent sized baby belly and towards the end of the pregnancy.

Im still exercising - water aerobics is amazing and I feel fantastic afterwards, relief for a little while, but by lunchtime, its all back to normal.

Im thinking that bub might be sitting awkwardly towards the back on the right side?? huh.gif

Thanks in advance


#28 Rach42

Posted 19 April 2012 - 09:55 AM

QUOTE (heliwifeBecG @ 19/04/2012, 09:42 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Does anyone have any tips on sore back remedies? I should be more clear...my right hip and lower back are sooooo sore and tender. I look like I am 182 when trying to stand up and it hurts to even walk.
Hubby works out of town so most nights I am home by myself and no one to give me back rubs, so that tip is out! Wheat bags don't do much.  

Went to physio yesterday and he put my hip back in, as it was out, felt good yesterday arvo but by last night, bam, so much pain again. sad.gif

I get hip and low back pain too - it hasn't been so bad this time around but my first two pregnancies I basically had to see a chiro every week or so to be put back together!  She did suggest that straight after seeing her that I go for a walk around the block or something rather than hop straight into the car and that seemed to help the treatment last a bit longer.  As for remedies I always got/get some relief from heat so use wheat packs and warm bath/showers so I don't really know what else to suggest.  I wonder if you can get some kind of belt thingy to help support the area?  I know my ex had something like that when he hurt his lower back but obviously he wasn't pregnant!

#29 heliwifeBecG

Posted 19 April 2012 - 10:51 AM

Thanks Rach42.

heat has a little relief but not too much... I try to walk it off so often but it hurts to walk on the one side. might have to get me a walking stick wink.gif haha
i will keep going to the physio as my problems before pregnancy were muscular related so now becuase everything is more relaxed and stretching I guess thats it.

I am also getting quite a bad pain in my right side, down low. Like period pain. (i have endometriosis so its certainly not as bad as that cramping but noticable)... im figuring this is all to do with things stretching and moving.

Other than the back pain and odd cramp or sore belly I am feeling on top of the world. My morning sickness lasted 16wks and stopped on Good Friday...thank christ too as it was horrible. I feel so terrible for those that suffer the entire pregnancy.


#30 kayelee65

Posted 19 April 2012 - 02:20 PM

Hi all, i haven't posted in a while, but everything seems to been going alone fine.

My details are; Name: Katrina. Age: 26. Baby No: 1. Due: 18th September. Sex: Unknown, and unsure if we will find out at next scan or not, Wanting a girl, but finding boys names easier to choose, so I guess it doesn't matter.

I have been feeling bubby moving at night when i am lying on the couch. I can't wait until it kicks enough for my Husband to feel it. It still hasn't sunk in yet that he is going to be a dad.

MS is easing up, but I still need to take a stematil tablet every morning or I will have a shocking day.


#31 *littlemiracles*

Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:00 PM

Hello everyone,

Its nice to be in a more chatty group - it was definitely quiet before!!! hope to get to know all our other sept mummies to be over the coming months. Just a quick visit from me I am about to do online training for work LOL.

Name: Michelle
Age: 32
Location: Queensland
Sex of baby: unknown - scan 8th May
Other children: DD - aged 6 yrs

This is our second pregnancy - a much bigger gap than planned but due to some hormonal issues took a long time to get to where we are today!!!! Our EDD is 22/9/12 but will have a c-sect around 38-39 weeks due to issues with DD's breech emerg c-sect. Hopefully we find out a date sooner rather than later!!! Excited to have our scan on the 8th May - DD is coming too so we are hoping to find out the sex of bub as well. We will be a little over 20 weeks on that day.

Anyway, better go training is beginning. Chat more to you soon

#32 PinkSurvivor

Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:17 PM

Quick post, I'm still here and will add the 16th-31st to the list hopefully tonight. I just have to run to the markets grab some laksa, Bath my kids and then I should have time lol.

Will be back to do personals and update! Sorry for being MIA

#33 Rach42

Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:34 PM

QUOTE (PinkSurvivor @ 20/04/2012, 05:17 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Quick post, I'm still here and will add the 16th-31st to the list hopefully tonight. I just have to run to the markets grab some laksa, Bath my kids and then I should have time lol.

Will be back to do personals and update! Sorry for being MIA

Thank you for doing the list!  Enjoy your laksa original.gif  (now I feel like having laksa ....)

#34 Sar333

Posted 20 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

Hello all, haven't posted in a week or so, but it's nice to see the threads joined and lots of action going on original.gif
Have been having the back and hip pain too. The heat pack is working wonders and the stretches my midwife taught me are great too.

Had my scan this morning, which was nice, but by the end my back was on fire from lying down for an hour and just wanted it to be over! baby is doing well though, very active looking like it should. Didn't find out the gender, we want a surprise but I was still looking to see if I could see! No idea though...


#35 BumpedUp

Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:46 PM

Hi Everyone

Been so busy the last couple of days, but finished work today for 3 wks. Heading overseas for our babymoon on Sunday. So excited. Still have so much to do!

Had my scan on Wednesday and they confirmed that we are indeed having a lil girl and we are very excited. Click on the link below to check out my scan pics and some bump pics.


Ill try and pop back again on the weekend and do personals before I go.

Cant believe that I will be halfway on Sunday!!! 20 wks!

Doubt ill get much online time while I am away so I miss you girls. Hope you all stay well and enjoy this part of your pregnancy and I cant wait to catch up with whats been happening when I get back.

Glad this group is more chatty now that we are all together.

SG- Congrats on the engagement! How exciting!!

Have a great week everyone


#36 BumpedUp

Posted 20 April 2012 - 10:48 PM

just realised I need to add the other links. My bad, baby brain playing up again.



Edited by BumpedUp, 20 April 2012 - 10:49 PM.

#37 PinkSurvivor

Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:19 PM

em-K: I cannot add you to the list without a due date original.gif

Ok well I've updated the list. I used the "old" list from a few months ago in the very beginning when I did both lists. If anyone has left the group can you let me know to delete them or add them to the precious angels group.

Also if anyone else wants to be on the list can you make it easy and post details in the format or close to the one I have to I can just copy and paste please. It just makes it hard when I have to carefully read every post for details with so many people in the group now original.gif

If I have missed anyone please either just let me know on the chat thread or PM me.

Have a great night.

bumpedup: Checking your photo's now original.gif

I'll be back for personals tomorrow but I'm too tired the list took longer than I thought.


#38 *Mumma-to-A*

Posted 20 April 2012 - 11:32 PM

Pink - Em-k is 17th September

Bumpedup - Very cute girl! Whats the difference between a 3d and 4d scan? The second link says 4d. Is it like 3d scan but with movement like a video? Hope you have a great time on holiday if you don't get a chance to pop in before.

Me - I'm very hormonal and feeling like I need to go off at someone to untension myself. Very NOT my personality but thinking it could be a good thing to et some stuff off my chest while blaming it on pregnancy. Feeling so much movement. Theres a party in there I'm sure.

1 week till my scan. I can't wait I need some good feelings!

#39 tinkster23

Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:29 AM

QUOTE (Rach42 @ 20/04/2012, 03:34 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Thank you for doing the list!  Enjoy your laksa original.gif  (now I feel like having laksa ....)

I hope this means I'm not the only one who is SO suggestible atm, if I see an ad, someone mentions food, I see it at the shops- MUST have. Makes for interesting shopping trips, I get home with 4 different choices of things I just had to have!

Must be cos I'm not throwing everything straight back up again!

Bumpedup- gorgeous bump and baby! Enjoy your holiday!!

Counting down until my scan on tuesday...

#40 Rach42

Posted 21 April 2012 - 08:25 AM

Hehehe - Pink I just looked at the list and you have given me an extra child laughing2.gif  

I have 2 other children, this bub will make 3

#41 PinkSurvivor

Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:05 AM

QUOTE (Rach42 @ 21/04/2012, 07:55 AM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
Hehehe - Pink I just looked at the list and you have given me an extra child laughing2.gif  

I have 2 other children, this bub will make 3

Well maybe I'm psychic and you have a hidden twin, j/k so sorry about that. I've fixed it!

Very lovely photo's Bumpedup original.gif

Mumma-to-a: Thats very reasurring with all the movement. Thanks for em-k's due date! I have been grumpy sometimes too. DH is away for 5 weeks for work so I think while he misses me he is happy he misses 5 weeks of moodiness!

tinkster23: I wait all wet season for this one laksa at these markets near my house. The markets don't from October - end April so I crave it. It was SO GOOD!!! It will be my friday night ritual. I haven't really been craving much the last week....we'll see if that continues.

Sar333: I hope the pain eases for you soon!

littlemiracles: I hope baby cooperates for your scan so you can find out gender.

Thank you for thinking of me Morti original.gif

sg290780: CONGRATULATIONS on your engagement!!!

Mumma-to-A: I might have to take you up on that offer to do the list if I have Bub early or things go pear shaped. I will let you know if I can't keep doing it. Thanks for the offer!! (I know I already headlined you but going back through the thread lol.

Tauruspregnant: Congratulations on finding out you're having a boy. Boys are great, I have two of them so far original.gif

jess1980: Congrats on twins!!!Hopefully there is a blue one in there for DH! Well you have double the chance!

Has anyone else's tummy gotten really big?
from Em-K
Mine is actually a lot smaller than my other two, its kind of nice to not be as big this time. With my boys I got huge. Its still bigger than some people but way smaller than usual. I can't fit into my maternity clothes yet, they are all too big I had to go buy some a size or two down as my regular clothes don't fit. I'm in the middle at the moment.

hellwifebecG: I hope the hip pain eases.

WOW, thats a lot of catch up!!! Hopefully I don't fall that far behind again!!!

AFM: baby is well but I have low fluid so they are a bit stressed so I am being flown interstate to see a perinatal specialist and have additional scanning done. They just want to do really high tech scanning to make sure baby's kidneys and placenta are working properly (they appear to be) but they was to make 100% sure. Everything else looks good baby wise the heart, diaphram, bain, all the blood flow, measurements ect. Baby is kicking a lot which is also reassuring. Nothing about me can be simple....it drives me crazy.

On top of it DH is away for work for 5 weeks and I'm supposed to be 'resting' which is a little difficult with a two and four year old running around.

I'll add a couple pics to share original.gif

This is the "potty" shot. Apparently 3 white lines mean girl. I get another fancy scan when I fly down south on Thursday so I'll double check lol. I had a friend who was told girl and it had a penis on arrival laughing2.gif I'm praying for a girl though but as long as he/she is healthy I'm not fussed.

I took this one this morning so 20 weeks +2 days original.gif

Ok well thats enough for now. Have a wonderful day ladies!!!


Posted 21 April 2012 - 09:47 AM

Hi to all the mummies to be... Love reading all your stories..

Pink could you please add me to this list also? Many thanks!

Due: September 23rd (scheduled 39 wk c-section)
Name: Mel
Other Kids: Twin DD (3)
Location: Qld, GC
Sex: Can't wait to find out! (Next scan 9/5)

MS has finally passed. There was a few horrible weeks (7-11) in particular.

This trimester I've had a few headaches but the bonus is bub has started to kick which is lovely! My DD2 snuggled on the couch with me this morning and was pushing up against my belly and the baby gave her the biggest kicks to date!! So funny.. The girls are competitive at the best of times and have had to share me from day dot, so it will be interesting to see how they go with a little one! DD1 will lift up my top and tickle the bub most nights, so hopefully they'll be my little helpers. x

We did have a bit of a scare this pregnancy (See topics "Rhesis negative; subsequent pregnancy) and at this stage have to be monitored monthly. Hopefully everything will be o.k.

Can't wait to see bub at next scan and find out what we are having!

#43 PinkSurvivor

Posted 21 April 2012 - 11:35 AM

***I have removed all the UN-updated names. If you want on the list just PM me or write it in your post in the chat. There were just too many names I haven't seen in a while and its hard to format with so many but I am more than happy to add you back. I just wasn't sure who isn't participating anymore or who has suffered losses. If anyone wants to be added to our angels PM me.

The list is up to date now as far as the information I have come across. If I missed you I'm sorry, just let me know!

#44 McBaby's Mum

Posted 21 April 2012 - 05:54 PM

Hi Mummy's to be,

My 20 week scan was Thursday and amazing.  Everything is going well. A huge relief.  The sonographer said my bub was one of the most active bub’s she’s scanned and has been doing ultrasounds for 16 years! LOL! So wish me luck when bub arrives in September!!

The little bub was punching the hell out of it's little cave house the whole time. So a little Mike Tyson or Lauryn Eagle is in the making

EM-K: I also popped at 10 weeks. People are constantly making comments about me having twins or that I'm due earlier.  I thought my scan on Thursday would stop people commenting about the 'twins'. But to my surprise people have stated 'oh, they can hide during scans'. Not in this day and age…. Ladies and gent.

But all is well, baby's legs and arms are 3cm and the head is already 17cm in circumference. The little heart beat was 165bpm.

So excited,  Oh, and Mum's that are still unwell…. I feel for you, but hang in there! My vomiting and nausea stopped at 18 and a half weeks and now I feel great.

Take care everyone.

Bec xxooxx

Bec: 31years
Husband: 30 years
First baby and due 3rd of Sept

Nice addition to our fur family
Oscar the epileptic Labrador: 5 years
Maggie Moo the chocolate border collie: 4 years
Jemima the cat: 3 years

#45 MillysMama

Posted 21 April 2012 - 06:08 PM

Hi Ladies original.gif

Just thought I would introduce myself here as I am new to this forum.

My name is Kristy and Im 18 weeks pregnant with my second bub.

I have a 6 year old daughter.

Hope to get to know you all!

#46 red2012

Posted 22 April 2012 - 03:01 AM

Hello Ladies,

This is the first time I've posted in the new group, I think its a great idea. A whole new group of mums and mums2b to get to know!!

Mumma-2-A I'm happy to join the FB group but having alot of trouble PMing you not sure what I'm doing wrong.

Pink I haven't posted in a while but I am so glad the surgery went well and hope the scans go fine. Still sending those positive vibes.

little miracles hoping you find out the gender soon. I know it doesn't matter either way but it was driving me so nuts, so I really empathise with you, we had a 3d/4d gender scan at 15 weeks and found out it was a boy.original.gif  We used Fetal Fotos and I think it was about $100.

Congrats on everyone starting to set up the nurseries! I would love to be doing that, but soon enoungh.

AFM Unfortunately our babymoon didn't happen (my DF had surprised me with a trip to melb for weekend) as I was addmitted to hospital on Easter Sunday because either pregnancy or my stubborn refusal to take medication during my first trimester has thrown my movement and pain disorders into a tail spin. I've been in here for 2 weeks and prob looking at another month on top of that! sad.gif

But for the good news original.gif we had our 20 week scan on friday and everything looks perfect with out little boy which was such a relief, he has always measured a few days ahead of dates but apparently that doens't mean much yet. Me being not so good is one thing him not being okay is quiet another, that I don't even want to think about. Those maternal instinct must be kicking in. Meanwhile he kicks all the time, such an active little one, but DF hasn't caught it on the outside yet.

DF also sold his motor bike, he has been so nervous about riding it himself because of the risks and hasn't let me on it since I was a couple of months, and surprised me with a car yesterday by taking me on a random not wheelchair friendly walk lol!!! a beautiful 2nd hand Merc! It was exciting as I didn't have any idea he had done it, we live inner city and knew we would have to buy one but I didn't think it would happen for another month or two.

20 weeks tomorrow. Halfway point!! So determined to get home as soon as safely possible to start getting ready original.gif

Hope everyones well looking forward to reconnecting with those I already know and getting to know everyone.

Red2012 xx

#47 3cubs

Posted 22 April 2012 - 05:44 PM

Hi girls

Ive finally sat down to try and catch up on the thread and noticed we have all combined.
Hello to everyone in the first part of september. Im pretty much due smack bang in the middle of september. I think Im the 16th of September. Im 19 weeks now.

Congratulations to everyone who have seen their bubs again in the morph scan. I hoep all bubs are healthy. My scan is on thursday.

Pinksurvivor: u are correct, girls have three lines int he scans. Congratulations on your girl.

Due: 16th of September
Name: Ingrid
Baby no. 4
Ds1: 4 turning 5 in June, DS2: passed away at 11 days, DD: 1 turning 2 in November

#48 Morti

Posted 23 April 2012 - 07:21 AM

Hi all!! original.gif

Speaking of morph scans... I probably should know this already, considering this is my fourth baby  blush.gif ... but is it important for the scan to be done from weeks 18 - 20, as is normal?  Mine has had to be rescheduled for Wed. next week (the reason is complicated)... by then I'll be 22.5 weeks pregnant.  Does anybody know if that's a problem? (I can't phone and ask my ob. myself because I'm living in Spain, can't speak Spanish yet, while my ob. can't speak English and my husband (a Spaniard) can't phone for me since he is away on business until next week.)

Honestly, sometimes it freaks me out that I have to give birth in a country where I'm so isolated and can't speak the language yet.... I feel so dependent on my husband, and so powerless.

Tinkster23 - I'm sorry to hear that you've been suffering with hyperemesis. sad.gif  Normal "morning" sickness is bad enough (weeks 5 - 14 or so were hell on earth for me, I thought) but hyperemesis is a whole different kettle of fish.  One of my close friends suffered from it for her entire pregnancy... I can't count the number of times that she was in and out of hospital being put on drips and such.  I wouldn't wish it on my worst enemy.  Brave ladies!!!

Bumped Up & Pink - Love the pics girls!!  And your bumps are as cute as!!  My tummy is about the same size as Pink's now... but unfortunately so is my backside (the same size as our tummies, that is). unsure.gif LOL! I swear I was looking side-on in the mirror just today, pondering how it's possible that my a*se can be so fat and 'out there' as to be the same size as my pregnancy bump! huh.gif  Just another mystery in the universe, I guess. (Either that or all that ice cream and cake with whipped cream I've been eating lately....)  

The good thing about being married to a foreigner is that you can recycle all of those old jokes that EVERYBODY has heard in Australia... My husband was trying to discourage me from eating so much the other day, saying that maybe I should ask my ob. to put me on a diet... I said to him "No need, my dear!! I've been on a seefood diet for a while now! biggrin.gif " He said, quite doubtfully "But I haven't noticed you eating any seafood..." I said with a shocked expression on my face, "What are you talking about???  For months now, EVERYTIME I've seen food, I've eaten it!!" wink.gif

McBaby's Mum - Wishing you luck with your little pocket rocket!! biggrin.gif  Do you feel your baby moving around much yet?  Or do you think that a large proportion of baby's movements are still undetectable by you?  

Some days I still don't feel my baby moving very much... but I noticed during my last scan (it wasn't a full morph scan) that although baby was very active, I felt virtually nothing of it. It got me thinking that I've probably only been feeling about 5 or 10% of all of his movements so far. In the last few days I've been feeling a bit more, which is a relief... but I'm very much looking forward to being able to feel a greater proportion of all of his movements.... and being able to see them too! original.gif

How is everyone else going in regards to feeling their babies move?  I think this is one of the most exciting stages of pregnancy... when we first start feeling our little ones wriggling about and kicking! I always find any of my boy's movements so comforting and such a beautiful reminder that he's there! wub.gif

3cubs - What a beautiful signature pic.   hheart.gif  Truly an adorable little angel.  He looks so peaceful... and so perfect.  

* hugs* to all!!!

Edited by Morti, 23 April 2012 - 08:35 AM.

#49 Camizebra

Posted 23 April 2012 - 03:18 PM

Hello hello Septembers!

I just love hearing all the stories of you starting to feel flutters and your scans going well.  I still can't be sure if what I am feeling is sticky bun or gas, lol!  I think gas at this point...  Eh.

I am -
Due: September 22
Name: Camille
Age: 34
Sex: Will find out at our 3 May morphology scan
Other kids: None

I have been suffering from terrible hyperemesis since week 4 and still on Zofran and Stemetil everyday.  I am still vomititing from time to time, but the Zofran is a serious god send.  Every time someone has said it will pass by week __, it hasn't, so I am praying that I don't have it my entire pregnancy.  Pretty nervous for my morphology scan because I have been on meds pretty much the entire pg, but I am trying to be positive.

I am sorry to hear about all the tired mums to be out there, you poor loves.  I have definitely got more energy in the past few weeks and able to do more things without needing a nap or feeling completely shattered and weak, which has been so nice.  I really hope those who are weary get a burst of energy that we are entitled to in this second trimester.  The nighttime wees have also reduced to one a night, woo freaking hoo!  Damn those loo visits were draining.

PinkSurvivor Fingers, toes and eyes crossed for you that your scans are okay.  From reading other people's comments I hear that you have been having a rough time - I am so sorry to hear it.  I hope everything works out and you get nothing but good news and a breezy pg from here on out, seriously.  Oh and thanks for doing the due date post, you're the best!


#50 twins in the oven

Posted 23 April 2012 - 05:40 PM

Hi ladies Im new to this forum and Im due to have twins 25th Sept. I have 2 beautiful boys already Ethan is 5 and Lincon is 3 in August original.gif
I love to chat so I have joined this forum and look forward to hearing about all the Scans coming up. Mine is booked for Tues 8th May and my first midwife/hospital visit is on the 9th May original.gif We will be finding out the sexes of the babies on the 8th May so Im super excited.

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Are our hopes, dreams and expectations for our children what they really need?

'I had a feeling something was seriously wrong'

Before even giving birth, Katie Myers' maternal instincts warned her something was wrong with her baby.

When your pregnancy causes a relationship rift

Some dads-to-be don't miss a beat when their partner is pregnant; others struggle with a range of issues and can become withdrawn, right when their support is needed most.

Couple uses group photo trick to announce pregnancy to loved ones

Katharine and Kris Camilli devised a clever trick to immortalise their family and friends' reactions to their exciting pregnancy news.

Why Tracey Spicer has given up make-up

"After 30 years on television, I had become what I despised: a painted doll who spent an hour a day and close to $200 a week putting on a mask."

Knowing you are one of the lucky ones

I am secure, confident and strong, but the responsibility of protecting my children can almost bring me undone.

Why I am so emotional now I have kids?

There are so many ways in which parenthood changes us as women, but one of the most noticeable, for me, has been the changing state of my emotions.

Baby survives despite sharing womb with 'foreign body'

Baby Maia was conceived against the odds, only to find she was sharing a womb with an ominous "foreign body".

Video: Baby shows dog how to jump - or vice versa

They say dog is man's best friend, but this playful pooch seems to have chosen a jumping baby as her number one buddy.

10 ways to soothe a crying baby

New paernts can get frustrated when their newborn gets fussy and can't settle down. When you're feeling overwhelmed, try some of these simple tips to help soothe your baby.

20 baby names that are becoming more popular every year

The data-lovers at nameberry.com have been at it again – this time, they’ve discovered the names that are continually rising up the ranks, ready to take out some top spots in the next few years.

10 great meals to make for new parents

Ideally, you want to give food that isn’t expensive to make, isn't too difficult to create, and freezes well; stews, bakes, soups and pasta sauces are perfect.

Weird pregnancy products

Some pregnancy products come to market and are just awesome. Others just leave you scratching your head.

Carers admit to force-feeding children

Christa Engles was changing her baby's nappy when tragedy struck.


How many weeks til Christmas?

On your To-Do list

Get the "Santa" shopping done without the kids in tow.

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