Jump to content

If you had an episiotomy ...
did you have them with subsequent births?


29 replies to this topic

#1 onyerbikeluv

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:03 PM

I had an episiotomy (that I was really happy with) with DD, and am wondering what the likelihood of needing one again with bubba #2.

DD was super stuck, pushing for 3 hours, needed a forceps turn and failed vaccuum attempts and they were talking ceasar, but then the episiotomy worked a treat and healed really well afterwards too, so I'm happy to have one again. I'm actually a bit scared NOT to have one this time!

Did you have one with the first? Did you have to have one with the second? What was the reason and the outcome?

Thanks in advance!

#2 janie1105

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:11 PM

I've had 3 episiotomies with all 3 births.  Fun times!

I can't really say why.  Does "the baby wasn't going to fit" count.

I also had the same obgyn for all 3 births so maybe he was more "pro" episiotomy then others might be.  But I have no complaints.  At the time if he hadn't done it, I felt like I was going to tear very very badly.

For what it's worth, I feel like I recovered better for the second two then for the first one.

Good luck with your birth.

#3 Expelliarmus

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:12 PM

There was no time for an episiotomy with the next two - I tore.

#4 cinnabubble

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:13 PM

I did both times.  Both healed well with zero subsequent problems. I just have a tough perineum.

#5 tara75

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:17 PM

i didn't with the first 2  but did with the third. a friend did  with the first but not with the next 2.

#6 I*Love*Christmas

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:22 PM

I had one both times.

First birth in a public hospital with a midwife and they had to do one because he was in distress after 2 hours of pushing. It was so painful. Felt like a paper cut and took a long time to heal.

Second one in private hospital done by my OB. He just said it looks as though you are going to tear I will do one. Second one healed so much better, didn't hurt being done or anything.

#7 deejie

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:26 PM

I had one with DS1 (forceps).

You don't "have" to have one subsequently just because you had one the first time. DS2 was born vaginally, no episiotomy, no tearing and he had a much bigger head than DS1 original.gif

#8 No-pants Agnodice

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:42 PM

I had one with my first. I was convinced the induction caused it - I wasn't 'ready' to push but the syntocinon seemed to 'force' the pushing, and I knew I wasn't relaxing my perineum. I only had a 3 kg baby so I thought he should have 'fit' but for me contracting my perineum/pelvic floor against him. I started to tear so got an episiotony. I hated the episiotomy too - I felt the cut which was excruciating, and then was sore for weeks, and it took six months for sex to be bearable.

I was desperate to avoid an episiotomy with my second, or at least manage it better. I had a different Ob who was fantastic and suggested local early 1. To numb the perineum and make it more comfortable when it stretched and 2. So I wouldn't feel an episiotomy should I need it. I also said I wanted to avoid induction at all costs. It was a worthwhile discussion! So local went in as soon as I started to push. This baby was occiput posterior and 4 kg so getting him to descend was hard work but there was no perineal pain when he crowned, and I didn't even notice the episiotomy (apparently 4 kg + mild shoulder dystocia meant he just wasn't going to get out without tearing!). But it was a totally different experience because I didn't feel the cut, and then the local was already in for the stitches. It felt better than last time almost instantly.

So I don't think you are condemned to another. My Ob did say but for his size I probably wouldn't have needed it this time as it was all stretching up nicely. I do think the local helped though.

#9 ~Mintie~

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:46 PM

I had a long and difficult labour with DS1, ending in episiotomy and vacuum. With DS2 I had a much faster labour that progressed well and DS2 was born with no episiotomy or suction. I did tear and found the recovery more difficult.
DS2 was also quite a bit bigger than DS1 but I used an Epi-No in the weeks prior to the birth which probably helped.

#10 Mumsyto2

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:51 PM

I had one with my first but also tragic tearing so the recovery was shocking and took the better part of a year and even then I was not 'right'. Had one for my second (who at 6lb was pund lighter than my first) and no tearing and it was fantastic, healed up really fast and could only really notice it when I sat/walked for the first week but even then was just a mild irritation not a problem.

#11 us plus two

Posted 16 April 2012 - 01:56 PM

I had an episiotomy with my first, but tore with my second, she came very quick.

#12 onyerbikeluv

Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:13 PM

Thanks everyone - some very varied responses.

I'm going public again, so no idea who will be there on the day (I don't have an OB), but I really am liking the idea of getting a local just in case.  I'm going to ask my midwife about that ... although she'll probably respond the same way she did when I heard about 'walking epidurals' haha - "not in the public system, love!".

#13 Mamabug

Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:16 PM

#1 - episiotomy
#2 - natural second degree tear, stitches
#3 - no tear, no stitches
#4 - natural second degree tear, stitches

Strangely, #3 was my biggest baby and my worst labour!!

#14 Angelina Ballerina

Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:18 PM

I had an episiotomy with my first after 90 mins pushing and vacuum.

It healed very badly and was still giving me problems when we ttc #2.

With my second baby she was out within 10 mins of not particularly strenuous pushing.

I think I had a 2nd (maybe 3rd) degree tear along the old scar line but it healed about a million times better than my previous epi.

#15 Leha

Posted 16 April 2012 - 02:19 PM

I had one with DD who was coming out bum first. Despite having it she wouldn't come out and I had an emergency c/sect.

DS was born after 20 minutes of pushing and I didn't need one and I didn't tear. I did use an epi- no and I think this is what stopped me from tearing. My midwife told me before he was born that I had a very high chance of tearing along the scar and advised me to use the epi- no to help prevent it.

#16 nessrose

Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:43 AM


DD1 - I had one. Your birth sounded like mine.

DD2/3 (twins) - quick 2.5 hour labour. No need for one.

DD4 - 5 minute pushing stage, no need for one.

Have #5 due any day now and hoping won't need one.





#17 zanjabil

Posted 06 May 2012 - 08:59 PM

I had one with #1 and would never choose it again. The stitches ouch and teh recovery time was awful. And I had some long lasting problems for a while from it as well.

#2 I didn't have one and no tears! and she was much bigger than my first at 3.95kg. Recovery was amazing as I went shopping the next day lol original.gif

Edited by zanjabil, 06 May 2012 - 09:00 PM.


#18 4joys

Posted 07 May 2012 - 10:34 AM

#1 - Episiotomy + forceps

#2 - Episiotmoy

#3 -Tearing

#4 - Tearing

With my 3rd and 4th birth, I healed my faster and with less pain. I specifically wrote in my birth plan for #3 and #4 that I absolutely did not want Episiotomy's. I also had an "Episiotomy happy" OB with 1 and 2, and was far more proactive with the 2nd 2 OB's (moved state) about not having Epi's.



#19 Phoenix Blue

Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:05 PM

I had one with my first. Needed vacuum too. Very sore for a few weeks after.

2nd one came out in 2 pushes and I may have torn a bit? Maybe a stitch or 2, I really can't remember, and healing was much quicker and less painful.

#20 2 Gorgeous Girls

Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:11 PM

QUOTE (iluvmygirls @ 16/04/2012, 01:56 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had an episiotomy with my first, but tore with my second, she came very quick.


Exactly this original.gif


#21 Alina0210

Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:15 PM

I've seen a lot of second births as doula where the mum had an episiotomy with thier first didn't need one with thier next one... Water and better positioning helps alot

#22 melaine

Posted 07 May 2012 - 08:18 PM

QUOTE (Phoenix Blue @ 07/05/2012, 08:05 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I had one with my first. Needed vacuum too. Very sore for a few weeks after.

2nd one came out in 2 pushes and I may have torn a bit? Maybe a stitch or 2, I really can't remember, and healing was much quicker and less painful.



This except I had a high forceps delivery with the first. Second was a very rapid pushing stage - 1 push and he flew out. He had his hand up, and I tore but it healed much quicker and I had much less ongoing pain.

#23 mama2carysbaileigh

Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:05 PM

Had one with dd1 but was a forcep birth
Ds came out back to back with his hand at his head was a bugger to push out but no epis, tearing or anything, if only I didn't need an op to remove the placenta it would have been perfect!

#24 RealityBites

Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:07 PM

No. I had one with the first (vacuum) and no episiotomy/tearing with natural birth for the second (and only in labour around 3 hours).

Edited by RealityBites, 09 May 2012 - 09:08 PM.


#25 My-3-Pinks

Posted 09 May 2012 - 09:17 PM

Unfortunately I had one with each of my girls.  

DD1 was quite stuck so needed the ventouse and episiotomy.  The doctors all commented on how big her head was and no wonder I needed help getting her out!

DD2 went in to distress and they wanted her out quickly.  I had really hoped I wouldn't have needed one again but it was more important for her as she was not a well baby once born.

DD3 - we went private with her and one of the first things I said was I didn't want an episiotomy unless absolutely necessary but don't even think about giving me one without pain relief this time!  It was so painful feeling the cutting with DD2.  Unfortunately I also ended up needing one again and they did give a lot of local this time but still felt most of it sad.gif  She also needed out quickly due to placental abruption.  





Reply to this topic



  


2 user(s) are reading this topic

0 members, 2 guests, 0 anonymous users

 

Teaching our son to say no to violence against women

Today, on White Ribbon Day - and every other day - we're teaching our son to say no to violence against women.

Mothers told to breastfeed in 'spacious' toilet

If there is one thing the owners of Tillings Cafe can be certain of, it is that the eatery won't win the award for Britain's best baby-friendly coffee shop any time soon.

Mother gives name to son dumped down drain

A woman who admitted to dumping her newborn baby down a Sydney drain has reportedly been allowed to give him a name.

Taking small steps to reduce stress

Are you feeling used up by life's stress, family problems and a demanding job you can't turn off? Many people are way beyond work-life exhaustion. They are functioning as robots.

Bad news: we're running out of chocolate

The world's biggest chocolate-maker says we're running out of chocolate.

Born at 23 weeks, 'Chopstick Baby' survives first week

A baby who was born at 23 weeks has survived her first week of life outside the womb.

Manic stations: the nesting instinct in pregnancy

It might sound like temporary insanity, but almost obsessive nesting as you near your due date isn’t uncommon – even if you’re not usually a particularly clean person.

How a baby can survive alone for days on end

The baby found abandoned in a Sydney drain may have been alone for up to six days without being fed, leaving many asking how he could have survived.

When it begins to look a lot like Christmas

A child's excitement at Christmas time is a beautiful thing, but one dad ponders whether his toddler daughter is getting into the festive mood a bit too soon.

Hospital lets dads the experience some of the pain of childbirth

A new experience is radically altering men's views of childbirth.

Italian doctors questioned over formula bribes

Italian police have placed 12 doctors under house arrest on suspicion of promoting baby milk formula over breastfeeding.

Heartwarming prank gives single mum the house she was hired to clean

Cara Simmons arrived at work to clean a large and beautiful house in time for a party planned for that evening. It was soon hers.

Those special moments of sibling bonding

Every now and then your child does or says something that is truly memorable.

Why we should stop telling new parents to 'enjoy every moment'

A few weeks ago, some dear friends of mine had their first baby. As the proud dad texted me a picture I had to fight the natural instinct to say “Enjoy every moment!”

Baby monitor footage posted online

Footage of Australian babies and children sleeping in their bedrooms are among the images on a Russian site showing live feeds from thousands of homes and businesses around the world.

Did this new dad really hit on his wife's midwife?

Was there really a man who was actually there by his wife’s side as she laboured and gave birth to his child, all while he was making what he perceived to be meaningful eye contact with a midwife?

Keep calm and ignore the Tantrum Trolls

Tantrum Trolls are a small but growing species of predatory bottom-feeders who delight in picking on parents at their most vulnerable.

It's okay to never 'get over' the death of a loved one

The death of children, siblings, and parents has long term impacts on the rest of our lives.

What Mark Latham needs to know about depression and motherhood

Love has nothing to do with mental illness. But love may drive a mother to do something about it.

'We're just trying to keep our child alive': life with FPIES

We have a beautiful seven-month-old son, and his allergy rules our life.

Transgender dad breastfeeds his babies

A transgender man who breastfed his first baby - despite having his breasts removed as part of his transformation from female to male - has now had a second child.

Couple face $1 million medical bill and bankruptcy after babymoon birth

A Canadian couple were slammed with a million dollar medical bill after their daughter was prematurely during their babymoon.

Cigarettes, junk food dominate supermarket sales growth

One in every five dollars spent at supermarkets goes on cigarettes or junk food, according to industry data.

Teacher under fire for breastfeeding in class

There is no doubt mums have a right to continue breastfeeding after they have returned to work, but one teacher in the US has taken it to the extreme.

Win a family pass to Disney Live!

We have 4 family passes to give away to see Disney Live! presents Three Classic Fairy Tales, touring Australia this December/January.

Download now: Essential Kids Activity Finder app

Got bored kids? Quickly find the best activities for kids wherever you are in Australia with the Essential Kids app.

 
Advertisement
 
Advertisement
 
 
 

What's hot on EB

Join PADDINGTON on the red carpet!

To celebrate the release of PADDINGTON, we are giving five lucky winners the chance to win a family pass to the exclusive Australian Premiere in Sydney on December 7!

The tragedy of losing a favourite teddy bear

We were green and uninitiated, perhaps a little naïve when it came to the favourite toy responsibility.

Video: Baby sniffs beardless dad to make sure it's him

She looks him up and down and then touches his chin, but baby Lindsey still isn't sure this clean-shaven man is her dad.

It's possible to workout while pregnant

Medical experts say intense fitness routines can be done safely during pregnancy - if the mums-to-be follow some guidelines.

What parents really want for their kids

Are our hopes, dreams and expectations for our children what they really need?

'I had a feeling something was seriously wrong'

Before even giving birth, Katie Myers' maternal instincts warned her something was wrong with her baby.

When your pregnancy causes a relationship rift

Some dads-to-be don't miss a beat when their partner is pregnant; others struggle with a range of issues and can become withdrawn, right when their support is needed most.

Couple uses group photo trick to announce pregnancy to loved ones

Katharine and Kris Camilli devised a clever trick to immortalise their family and friends' reactions to their exciting pregnancy news.

Why Tracey Spicer has given up make-up

"After 30 years on television, I had become what I despised: a painted doll who spent an hour a day and close to $200 a week putting on a mask."

Knowing you are one of the lucky ones

I am secure, confident and strong, but the responsibility of protecting my children can almost bring me undone.

Why I am so emotional now I have kids?

There are so many ways in which parenthood changes us as women, but one of the most noticeable, for me, has been the changing state of my emotions.

Baby survives despite sharing womb with 'foreign body'

Baby Maia was conceived against the odds, only to find she was sharing a womb with an ominous "foreign body".

Video: Baby shows dog how to jump - or vice versa

They say dog is man's best friend, but this playful pooch seems to have chosen a jumping baby as her number one buddy.

10 ways to soothe a crying baby

New paernts can get frustrated when their newborn gets fussy and can't settle down. When you're feeling overwhelmed, try some of these simple tips to help soothe your baby.

20 baby names that are becoming more popular every year

The data-lovers at nameberry.com have been at it again – this time, they’ve discovered the names that are continually rising up the ranks, ready to take out some top spots in the next few years.

10 great meals to make for new parents

Ideally, you want to give food that isn’t expensive to make, isn't too difficult to create, and freezes well; stews, bakes, soups and pasta sauces are perfect.

Weird pregnancy products

Some pregnancy products come to market and are just awesome. Others just leave you scratching your head.

Carers admit to force-feeding children

Twin brothers have become dads on the same day ? with their partners giving birth in the same hospital, and even the same birthing pool.

 

How many weeks til Christmas?

On your To-Do list

Get the "Santa" shopping done without the kids in tow.

 
Advertisement
 
 
Essential Baby and Essential Kids is the place to find parenting information and parenting support relating to conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids, maternity, family budgeting, family travel, nutrition and wellbeing, family entertainment, kids entertainment, tips for the family home, child-friendly recipes and parenting. Try our pregnancy due date calculator to determine your due date, or our ovulation calculator to predict ovulation and your fertile period. Our pregnancy week by week guide shows your baby's stages of development. Access our very active mum's discussion groups in the Essential Baby forums or the Essential Kids forums to talk to mums about conception, pregnancy, birth, babies, toddlers, kids and parenting lifestyle. Essential Baby also offers a baby names database of more than 22,000 baby names, popular baby names, boys' names, girls' names and baby names advice in our baby names forum. Essential Kids features a range of free printable worksheets for kids from preschool years through to primary school years. For the latest baby clothes, maternity clothes, maternity accessories, toddler products, kids toys and kids clothing, breastfeeding and other parenting resources, check out Essential Baby and Essential Kids.