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No Sleep, Seriously, None All Day *update post 72*
aka: the day the remnants of my sanity flew the coop


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#51 MrsNorthman

Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:42 PM

if you have a chiropractor in the area that specialises in babies and children, I can highly recommend that too.

Big hugs Pookems.

#52 Mmmcheese

Posted 15 April 2012 - 09:52 PM

I've blocked out most of the early days wink.gif  but i do remember skin to skin working for us sometimes. I'd strip the bub down to her nappy and take my top off and would hold her while she slept. Once she had a decent nap, it seemed to 'reset' her. She never really liked massage, so I guess this was the same effect, but less stimulating. I found those early days so hard, thank goodness they don't last forever.

#53 Jenferal

Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:27 PM

Skin to skin was a life saver for us in the early weeks. In the dark room, on the rocker with a blanket around us for warmth(April baby).

#54 EBeditor

Posted 15 April 2012 - 10:33 PM

Until about 16 weeks I was pretty much stuck on the couch feeding DD from 6pm to 11pm. It was probably comfort sucking, but kept up my supply and was less strenuous than rocking etc.

Good luck.

#55 Feral_Pooks

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:14 PM

I FINALLY get him settled, he's fast asleep, I put him down and 10-15 minutes later he starts screaming before he even looks awake. This has happened at least 6 times today. He spits up partly digested milk all the time, even long after a feed. I know some people say that lots of people cry 'reflux' whenever a baby is unsettled or whatever, but do you think it could be something like that? What would make a settled, sleeping baby scream like that?

#56 Ianthe

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:20 PM

I would think there is a good chance that he has reflux. In my unprofessional opinion. Go to the doctor's tomorrow. This has been ongoing for a few days hasn't it? It does sound like he is miserable sad.gif

#57 Dionysus

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:21 PM

I forgot the skin-to-skin thing.  It did work with DD a lot of the time.

Pooks, do you have his cot on an incline?

We used baby mylanta with DD (I think that's what it was).  She was never really diagnosed, but the mylanta seemed to work

#58 Feral_Pooks

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:25 PM

OK thanks I just feel like I need someone to tell me I might be right I have no confidence in myself at all. I will take him to the doctors tomorrow. I am really failing at this what the hell would I do without you all.

#59 mummyinahurry

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:27 PM

A warm bath with lavender is a good 'reboot' sometimes when they're too tired to sleep. Good luck

#60 Dionysus

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:29 PM

trust your instincts, hon.  

I remember feeling so stupid going to the doctors all the time (well, I thought it was all the time, it was nothing on my SIL  LOL)

But, then I put off the doctor one time and it turned out DD actually had tonsillitis   ohmy.gif

I felt terrible, and then decided that my own pride was not worth worrying about.

#61 Ianthe

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:30 PM

You are not failing! There is a million things to figure out with babies.

#62 mum201

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:33 PM

That sounds very very much like reflux to me.  Pooks, it's the world's hardest job being a mum, but something you will find out soon is that it is the world's most rewarding one too.  It sounds like you are in the middle of reflux, plus a baby's most screamy period in their life.  If you can get the reflux sorted, the rest will pass in a few weeks.  Honestly, it gets wayyyy better soon.  Hang in there.

And if you feel like you are getting very negative, please see your GP re possible PND.  You are capable, you are doing a great job I am sure, it's just really full on!

#63 nicknick

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:35 PM

Agree with PP's you are not failing, you are a great mum trying so hard to help your beautiful son. It is so hard being a new mum and working out what is wrong (if only they could tell you). Agree it does sound like pain & maybe reflux - definitely take him to get looked at, and if you aren't happy with the 1st answer seek a 2nd opinion. Hope he settles soon for you.

#64 MrsDamonSalvatore

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:39 PM

as a pp suggested, raise his cot. with ethan i used my cookbooks lol. also, another thing the nurses suggested that really helped ethans reflux, is tumble dry or iron a teatowel so its nice and warm and wrap it tightly around his tummy. if it is reflux, one of those hugabubs will be your lifesaver original.gif

#65 Pixar

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:43 PM

You poor thing.  I don't know if you have tried this, but try propping up the head end of his basinette. Either under the legs or a folded towel or small blanket u der the mattress. It may help keep the stomach contents Dow where they should be.

Hoping you get some answers soo and your precious boy gets some much needed sleep.


#66 Pixar

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:43 PM

Double post

Edited by Pixar, 16 April 2012 - 09:44 PM.


#67 Mummy Em

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:56 PM

Pookems, I was trying to pm you but can't for some reason. I know a website with some wraps and carriers on special, if you are interested. Might help a bit if you can keep him upright.

#68 Chasing*Rainbows

Posted 16 April 2012 - 09:56 PM

Wow your post brings back all the memories. My first daughter had reflux and was a total nightmare. Slept on average 4 hours a day in broken blocks. I was a mess. My poor mother came in to find my daughter screaming in her bassinet and me sobbing uncomfortable on the floor, I never thought it would end. Milanta before and in the middle of her feed finally did the trick. I also propped up her matress and wrapped her tightly.

Goodluck OP I hope you find something that works.

#69 lucky 2

Posted 16 April 2012 - 10:27 PM

You are not failing but you are struggling.
I think its a great idea to see the GP tomorrow, for bub and for you.
And we are here for you, you don't have to do without us.

FWIW, I didn't cope well with new motherhood and did develop PND but what I felt most was anxiety, lack of confidence, misery, distress and eventually an absolute inability to cope with dd crying, I'd lose the plot. But I got better with time and professional help.

Best wishesx


#70 TheAP

Posted 16 April 2012 - 11:24 PM

QUOTE (pookems85 @ 16/04/2012, 10:25 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
I am really failing at this ...


You have a newborn who isn't sleeping yet you've tried rocking, singing, patting, driving, walking, feeding, bathing, nursing, comforting, cuddling and God knows what else.

When none of these have seemed to be working you've turned to other mothers fir advice and help.

You're going to seek medical help and advice.

Tell me again how you're failing? Sweetheart, while ever you are responding to your baby's needs you cannot possibly be failing at being his mother. You are doing everything you can think of to help him. That makes you a good mother in my book. original.gif

DS was a shocking sleeper as well and I used to wrap him tightly, stand in our shower recess with the water running and breast feed him whilst rocking side to side. It helped that our bathroom had no external light so was pitch black when I closed the door. If in doubt, I tried to make whatever I was doing be as womb-like as possible in those early days. Dark, warm, restricted movement for him, motion for me, food.

It does get better.

#71 bettymm

Posted 17 April 2012 - 06:19 PM

pooks, hope it gets better for you soon

You are not failing!! coping with a non sleeping . screaming baby is so tough!  you are dong an amazing job and obviously care about him a great deal.  You are doing all you can do..time to go to the docs now, at least rule out any physical problem and chat about how you are feeling too.
Also, talk to your MACH nurse, i know in my area they have sleep clinics that you can go to with bubs..ive heard it great and can really give you some great reassurance and confidence.  

It gets better with time..hang in there





#72 Feral_Pooks

Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:22 PM

Once again you guys have helped me get through a rough patch. Went to the GP who I really trust, she tends to err on the side of not using medication rather than being a happy prescriber, and she saw me settling Adam in his pram in the waiting room and gave me that understanding smile you get from mothers. He was in a lovely sleep when I went in to talk to her, then suddenly shrieked and brought up some milk from his feed 3 hours earlier. She checked him over thoroughly and asked a million questions and she's very confident it's reflux. Because of the massive impact it's having on both of our sleeping and moods, (um excuse my grammar Tounge1.gif) she has prescribed losec and ordered me to get some help so I can have rest until it starts to really help. She said I'd already done all the things she would normally suggest before medication so it was time to bring out the big guns. I've got a mental health plan written up too and am on a waiting list for services. So thank you to those who have been giving me advice and support, hopefully it's nice to see I've listened and taken it all to heart and am really trying and I feel lots of love for you all I really do, the support here and from my DIG and from my mum and DP is going to get me through- I feel a new wave of 'maybe this can get better' today. So thanks.

ETA I know in my OP I said he wasn't vomiting I didn't realise little spit ups could indicate something, also he does a noise like he's bringing something up but nothing comes up which I also didn't 'twig' to... I'm a duffer.

Edited by pookems85, 17 April 2012 - 10:24 PM.


#73 lucky 2

Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:33 PM

That's really great new pookems, I'm so glad you are feeling more hopeful and understood. Best wishes for both of you.
I hope the medication helps, it did for my little one.

#74 MrsDamonSalvatore

Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:40 PM

QUOTE (pookems85 @ 17/04/2012, 10:22 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
ETA I know in my OP I said he wasn't vomiting I didn't realise little spit ups could indicate something, also he does a noise like he's bringing something up but nothing comes up which I also didn't 'twig' to... I'm a duffer.


that sounds like silent reflux. thats what ethan has. hopefully the losec helps!!!

im proud of you pookems, you have stayed so strong, keep up the good work!!!   bbighug.gif

#75 whydoibother

Posted 17 April 2012 - 10:44 PM

teo of my kids had silent reflux think of it like heart burn ouch!  Losec helped Sam my youngest greatly-it takes about 10 days to work.





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