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Posted 12 April 2012 - 02:49 PM
I haven't read the other replies so this may already have been suggested, but if you can afford at least one or two sessions with a tax agent/ accountant, enquire as to whether they can do it on your behalf. The ATO is usually a tad more lenient when you've got an agent fighting it on your behalf.
I'd be happy to PM you our firms details - we're in NSW and we deal with this kind of thing all the time, with clients from all over Australia. Don't worry, you're not alone. And trust me when I say that although it may seem like a lot, you CAN get it broken down into a payment plan - don't listen to the ATO people who say you can't. Like a PP said, if they want all their money then they should be willing to comply with any plan you suggest.
I will advise you thought that in my recent dealings with the ATO they tend to try and demand payment within 12 months. If this is not possible you can get it drawn out but you have a better chance of that if there is a Tax Agent representing you.
The ATO has become a LOT more demanding on small to medium businesses lately as well, and it's not fair, especially because so many of us are struggling at the moment.
If you ever feel like they are not listening to you or threatening you into what they want please consider writing to the Small Business Commissioner in your state. They need to be made aware of the ATO's behaviour as well.
Sorry, this has become a bit of a long post now =/ I hope you find the solution you're looking for
Posted 12 April 2012 - 03:02 PM
The tax office has started this 50% upfront payment thing as they decided they were being to soft on everyone because of the GFC. They will still do payment plans and they may waive the 50% if the reason you are unable to pay is due to unforseen circumstances ie the good old excuse of "cashflow issues" is no longer accepted.
A couple of excuses I have had accepted for clients recently have been:
- Major debtor has turned bad (ie not going to pay)
- Change of bookkeeper meant owners of company were unaware of debt to pay
- Clients illness meant unable to work (or variations on this ie mother dying etc)
If you want to give us more details of how you have ended up in the debt then maybe one of us could help you work out an acceptable excuse?
Posted 12 April 2012 - 08:41 PM
Thank you all for your help..
there is no excuse really. We have had a tough couple of years financially, and with other stuff going on, but really I've just been negligent.
Posted 13 April 2012 - 05:37 PM
oh OP I feel your pain. My DP had a massive tax debt when i met him that STILL hasn't been sorted out, and I'm about to have our 2nd child. I finally got him to see an accountant end of 2010 and all she has done is stuff him around, promise him she'll get it sorted so we can afford the repayment plan, its still not sorted, interest is still presumably being charged, and she's just sent us massive bills we can't afford. He's closed his business down and gone on wages. I really don't know what to do I'm so angry at him as this was all before I came along and if he'd been honest I had 25k in the bank before DS was born we could've used to start paying off instead now its all gone on reno's, paying mortgage when his business wasn't going well etc. Sorry vent over
Posted 14 April 2012 - 06:59 AM
Just wanted to add that even though the ato haven't agreed to a payment plan still make the payments you can afford as often as possible so you are reducing your interest. You may also be able to use your good track record to convince them to give you a plan later.
Another tip - The ato's next step in debt recovery is usually to freeze your bank account, but they can only do this to a specific bank a/c they know about because you have given them the details previously (for tax or bas refunds), so if your day to day living money is in one of those accounts move all of your money to a different a/c now while you can
Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:47 PM
Did you Call the ATO back?
Edited by saxa, 18 April 2012 - 04:35 PM.
Posted 18 April 2012 - 01:52 PM
ATO has record of all your bank accounts - that's why you supply your tax file number when opening them.
If it a business debt they can freeze your Business account.
Yes they do but for some reason the bas/debt recovery departments don't access those records. Only the account you have listed with the bas dept. The ATO is very disjointed and the different departments do not seem to share info
Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:09 AM
Yes I calles back.
They told me I had to send in financials so I have. I'll start making making payments next week and hope like hell they will be gappy with my proposal
Posted 19 April 2012 - 07:36 AM
Rather than legal advice, you could see your local mp. They can talk to the ato n your behalf (I did it for a company that was on the verge of collapsing and losing jobs in the local area). Mp helped organize ato and payroll tax to be paid weekly for a year instead of in a lump sum.
Posted 24 April 2012 - 08:47 PM
They accepted my payment proposal.
Am so relieved.
Thanks to everyone for your help!
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