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#1 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:42 PM

I only ask because right now DS is in a bad way with his eczema, flaring up. You should see his eyes, very swollen and flakey and red raw.

He is on daily antihistamines and uses moo goo (the eczema one) and dermaid.

DS has had eczema all his life but seems to be getting worse. He has it quite bad behind the knees but that looks like his normal eczema. In this photo I'm worried about the red ring, it isn't normal. Well when I say it isn't normal it's been like that a while. It can flare up and go down in a matter of days (or even a day) so today I took a photo because we are waiting on hearing back for an appointment to the specialist allergist. His eyes are getting worse and swelling up and going down lately.

I know he is allergic to grass, pollens, dustmites and garden moulds.

Have your kids ever had anything like a red ring like that? DS is 12


#2 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 03:44 PM

Oh I'm not after medical advice, i've battled 12 years of eczema with him. I'm just after advice of what other parents think and what they've seen in their kids IYKWIM.

#3 Hootabelles

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:02 PM

That looks like a rash myy dd had.  Took her to the allergist at RCH and she has been diagnosed as anaphylactic to milk.  Since she stopped having any milk protein her skin is clear and beautiful.
Hers came out in rings behind her legs as well.
Have you tried the cortisone creams?
I have had eczema all my life as well and unfortunately dairy is the one thing to set me off too.  I am sure you already know that dairy is something that can make him react though so I am not much help.  Hope that appointment comes up quickly.
Poor kid, it makes me want to itch.

Good luck.

#4 MegsyMoo

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:08 PM

Does he do a lot of stuff that keeps his elbows bent?  Looks a bit like a form of Fungal infection.  Can't say without seeing it up close.  Have you tried a Tinea powder on it?  Only saying as it is on a skin fold.
Hope it clears soon.

#5 tick

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:25 PM

My eczema is pretty much always in rings, to the untrained eye it kind of looks like ring-worm.  It's just eczema though.  As a kid, behind my knees and in my elbows were the main spots I got it and back then it may have had a fungal component I suppose.  It was never diagnosed that way though!  I also get it around my eyes.

I'm allergic to all the things your boy is allergic to, but also citrus fruits, oats, nuts, dairy and probably a few other things that don't spring to mind right now.  Oranges seem to be particularly associated with elbow/knee eczema, the other things are more associated with eczema on my thighs and torso!  Not sure why that is.  Anyway, has he been eating anything different lately?  

If you're worried that it could be fungal, there's a resolve anti-fungal that contains 1% hydrocortisone cream and kinda kills two birds with one stone.  Otherwise I find hemp body butter from the body shop the best thing ever for my eczema (other than avoiding everything I'm allergic to, which I never manange to do).

#6 Chelara

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:30 PM

Looks like dhs, he gets behind his knees. Also his eyes are always flaky and itchy. Dh gets his mainly from Grass and pollens bu stress can also cause a flare up.

#7 Marchioness Flea

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:35 PM

Have you tried a dermatologist as well as an allergist?
My legs were bad like that as s kid, but I never saw an allergist(weren't around or the GP didn't think of it, who knows?) only  a dermatologist.

#8 jill1972

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:43 PM

One of my twins gets it behind his knees and in his elbows, it feels like sandpaper to touch & if he's been scratching at it it looks like your sons pics.  If he doesn't scratch it & he's not hot & sweaty you can't really see it.  I use cortisone cream on his when it's bugging him, but he's always got it to some degree.

#9 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 04:52 PM

Thanks for all the ideas. Might try an anti fungal - won't hurt I suppose lol Although I find the moo goo eczema good for anti fungal.

Biggest difference is that he is actually outside playing on the grass with the kids from next door. DS never goes outside to play so it's refreshing to see him play 'normally'. Fresh air outside is probably what his mind and body needs right now but not his skin!!!

His skin is really dry right now as well, his lips are cracking. The cold dry southerly winds are probably the reason for that! If I could get him to drink more water it would be good for him but right from an infant he has been the worst drinker sad.gif

#10 BeYOUtiful

Posted 11 April 2012 - 05:04 PM

I have a ring shape like that on my hand, I also have a smaller one in between two fingers.  The same as your DS it can clear up a bit in a day or two of cortisone - Dermaid.  However as soon as my hands are wet it returns.

I have only had it since having my son.  I haven't change my diet at all and the only difference is I am taking Motilium.
I think mine may have started as stress related.

I feel for him as mine gets itchy as.  It must hurt him even more in the creases of his elbows sad.gif

#11 FeralZombieMum

Posted 11 April 2012 - 07:52 PM

My first thoughts are his skin is over heating and making the eczema worse - or it could be fungal - and the heat and moisture is affecting it.

What type of bedding does he use? Does he use a doona? I found that layers of cotton blankets worked better.

I would keep a food diary. It's possible he is having more of a type of food that he has always had - ie his actual diet may not have changed, but he may have had an increase in one type, so has gone over his tolerance level.

He might also need to change the antihistamines he is on.

Also, he might need to have cooler showers - because hot/warm showers might aggravate it.

#12 Princess Bubblegum

Posted 11 April 2012 - 08:04 PM

My DD has had a red ring like that inside her elbows and on the back of her knees with her eczema. I usually use Hydrozole (which is anti-fungal) for a few days to get it back under control, as well as using the MooGoo eczema cream and the MSM cream. We should have shares in MooGoo, considering the amount of money I spend on their products!!

#13 i-candi

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:16 PM

He has cotton sheets, has been having longer showers because he has been playing in the grass plus I've been telling him to wash his hair (due to pollen) so it could be the soaps (I've told him not to use soap, he  isn't a smelling teen yet so no need for it).

I've started to change antihistamines when finishing a packet (ie every month), I was told to do this.

I'll start to look into the diet. He has obviously had a lot more chocolate than normal !

I'll take him to chemist tomorrow to get a fungal cream. I LOVE moo goo stuff but if I need to change for a while to get this under control then I'll do it !! The amount I spend at the chemist is amazing, we have a loyalty program where for every $100 spent you get a $10 gift certificate, I'm getting far too many gift certificates !!! once I got two at once! Oh and the chemist doesn't sell moo goo so it doesn't even include that stuff!!  Yikes!

Thank you everyone for your ideas original.gif

#14 Praetor VitaeChel

Posted 11 April 2012 - 09:47 PM

My eczema is often in rings as well, particularly on my arms. I use Moogoo Eczema and Udder cream, but also require cortisone. I have had it my whole life. My lips are cracking badly atm too. I find the change in weather between hot to cold really aggravates my condition.

I use the Moogoo wash and also changed my shampoo to the Moogoo shampoo and it has made another big difference. The soap in normal shampoo was washing down my body and making eczema worse. Moogoo products reduced my Cortisone use from once (or more) a day to about once a week - even sometimes go a couple of weeks now.

I only use Moogoo on DS and he rarely gets eczema at all now (use the wash, shampoo and udder cream. Use eczema cream if a breakout).

I hope you find the right combo for your DS. Eczema sucks sad.gif

#15 Pop-to-the-shops

Posted 12 April 2012 - 01:46 AM

Have you tried bleach baths. Google the rch site. For some good tips.

It could be infected.....

Daktarin is good for fungal rash.

#16 Barefoot

Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:17 AM

I had psoriasis in rings, it was a type the dermatologist had rarely seen as it was a mix of dermatitis and psoriasis, I needed a special concoction with sulfur and some other stuff in it to get rid of it, nothing else worked, but after it clears up, moo goo keeps it away for longer.

#17 Mercurial

Posted 12 April 2012 - 05:18 AM

My eczema always comes up in rings like that.  I've currently got two circles of eczema on my left breast which are driving me absolutely nuts.  So unbelievably itchy.  I use QV intensive and steroid creams to help control - though they've definitely flared at the moment.

Barefoot - that's interesting.  My dermatologist said mine looked atypical but still put it down to ezcema.  I haven't been back to see him for ages because he's so uncomfortable examining me (yes it's on my breast, I can't help that!!) that I feel he rushes things a bit.  They were going to do biopsies next.  I may have to get a referral to another doctor as it's really bad at the moment and the steroid creams aren't helping.

Edited by Mercurial, 12 April 2012 - 08:09 AM.

#18 75etd

Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:25 AM

I would suggest removing particular foods from his diet in a controlled manner, perhaps with the assistance of a dietician. My dd had eczema as she neared 12 months. Drs told me that was just the way it was. However I found her triggers and she is eczema free almost all the time. Sadly, this doesn't resolve it for everyone, but try some of the common food intolerances first. One of my daughters favorite fruits is watermelon but it is terrible for her skin....

#19 i-candi

Posted 12 April 2012 - 07:56 AM

DS woke me at 5.30am this morning with hives all over his legs and creeping up. I gave him a polaramine and he has crashed on the lounge fast asleep (8am).

Poor kid sad.gif

#20 30bt

Posted 12 April 2012 - 06:01 PM

Hydrozole is an anti fungal that also has hydrocortisone in it, try this twice a day for a couple of days, also use the moisturiser 3-4 times a day, if they are really worrying him you can try wet wraps which involves putting the creams on then wrapping with wet cotton bandages- you could just use this o'night. If it persists get a referral to a dermatologist- excema is their bread and butter!

Don't take out any foods from his diet, much more likely to be to an aero allegen (something like a grass, mould etc) if it is caused by an allergy at all.

Edited by 30bt, 12 April 2012 - 06:02 PM.

#21 i-candi

Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:06 AM

DS is starting to clear up, using moo goo MSM cream, eczema cream, anti fungal cream and dermaid. His skin is still so dry though.

Couldn't get the moo goo shampoo because they are out of stock.

His eyes are still puffy, red and the skin is scaly.

#22 Pop-to-the-shops

Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:41 PM

Moo goo makes my dd eczema worse, we have had no luck with it.

But I do like the shampoo.

We use elcon, a stronger steroid which we get on a script.

Pursue the allergy specialist and testing as soon as you can

Edited by akakabanna, 14 April 2012 - 09:52 PM.

#23 Hootabelles

Posted 14 April 2012 - 09:48 PM

The puffiness in his eyes is a bit of a concern.  I know being anaphylactic might make me a bit more edgy but I would be taking him somewhere to get it checked.   Allergies start off itchy like eczema, then with hives and then can get a lot worse..not trying to scare but you should get a second opinion for him.
Good luck

#24 i-candi

Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:11 PM

QUOTE (bubba08 @ 14/04/2012, 09:48 PM) <{POST_SNAPBACK}>
The puffiness in his eyes is a bit of a concern.  I know being anaphylactic might make me a bit more edgy but I would be taking him somewhere to get it checked.   Allergies start off itchy like eczema, then with hives and then can get a lot worse..not trying to scare but you should get a second opinion for him.
Good luck

Thanks for the concern.

DS did once (when living in WA) have a whole body hives, face, nose and mouth swelling where his body swelled so much that he turned blue (bruising under the skin!!!). The hospital and doctors I took him to didn't care (remember this was 10 years ago at least) and just told me to keep a watch on his breathing!

We moved states (to east coast) at the tail end of this episode and haven't had anything like it since. The worst was when hives started to creep up his neck. Due to the east winds at his first attack I think it had something to do with the wheat belt ( mum used to suffer hay fever back then and she was really bad at the same time as well!).

Right now I just think it is bad air born allergies. Actually his allergies have got a hell of a lot worse since he started high school. His eyes are horrible sad.gif ever since he started high school we have battled with his eyes. He has missed two days because of allergies, both days his eyes have swelled shut - quickly reversed with rediprep. I had to pick him up once due to allergies and as I since found out that the school has a nurse 24 hours a day (day/boarding school) and she said they can administer medication so I've sent in some polaramine and rediprep.

I researched high schools for DS, only thing I didn't research is allergies. DS is at a semi rural all boys day/boarding school. Basically his school is in the middle of cow paddocks with the most amazing grounds that are constantly being mowed sad.gif I hope we get somewhere with a desensitisation program because come semester two DS will have to do the agriculture part of the school program !!!! with the cows, sheep and gardens that is compulsory !!!!!!!!! yikes!!!!!!!

akakabanna moo goo is the only thing DS has responded to in the various stuff I've tried over the years.

#25 beaglebaby

Posted 14 April 2012 - 10:26 PM

Are you anywhere near Canberra?  I bought some great cream from a lady at the farmers markets there that has cleared up my eczema and has also helped a friends psoriasis. My son is also allergic to dust mites, grasses etc etc and I use it any time he has a flareup or hives.  It has EV Olive Oil in it.  Have just googled it, they have a website http://www.homeleighgroveolives.com.au/SkinCareProducts.htm Good to know as I'm interstate and will be needing more soon!

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